Fleming’s 3rd double
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Topic: Fleming’s 3rd double
Posted By: dips_december
Subject: Fleming’s 3rd double
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 2:33pm
Stephen Fleming scored his 3rd double hundred of his international test career ,the most by any newzealander .Having failed in his 100th test Fleming has been batting from the first session of the first day .He scored his 9th test hundred yesterday .He has played 100 test matches so far this being his 101st .Well played stephen
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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 2:45pm
yep showing up opposite number who also has 3 doubles all in 2003 though Graeme Smith needs to actually make a score in this match to many times he's been leaving the job to kallis and co in the middle order
------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:00pm
Moving to Facts & Stats.
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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:03pm
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great job keep up the good work JP
------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:36pm
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fleming deserves the applause as to score 3 doubles is a diff. task and it needs a lot of patience and concentration and to perform when the team is 1-0 down is even better.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:07am
he was finally out for 262
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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 7:12am
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Was 262 his highest score?
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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 8:41am
nope highest is 274
------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 12:43pm
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Good work by Fleming, do you guys think he can be classified into one of the worlds leading batsman with Ponting, Dravid etc?
Because he doesn't get much mention on this forum
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Posted By: nottsjoe
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 12:53pm
I do think Fleming is underrated as a batsmen it will be interesting to see how he does for Notts this year
------------- Great start Notts keep it up!!!
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 1:08pm
new zealand as a team don't get much mention even kenya gets mentioned more times then them or canada
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 1:08pm
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Good batsman, but his conversion rate, i.e the amount of hundreds he gets compared to fifties holds him back when we consider him among the real greats of our era - Ponting, Dravid, Kallis, Tendulkar etc.
That said, his conversion rate of hundreds to doubles is very impressive.
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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 1:20pm
He is NZ's leading batsmen and when people say new zealand only have 2 and a half batsmen Fleming equals a whole one and then the rest bat around him when fleming succeeds NZ succeeds thats why they lost the first test because Fleming failed.
------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 5:39am
he made a 274not out and this 262 whatwas the other score of 200+ made by him .ya exactly jp just 9 100's in 101 test is a bit too low for a player of his calibre but as the commentators say an avg of 38+ for a newzealander is an avg of 45+ in any other country .
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Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 7:26am
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-JP- has said what I have also said too, his conversion rate is wayyy too low..
A good innings by Franklin too.
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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories!
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Posted By: still not out
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 5:27pm
Classy batsman, Brilliant fielder.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 09 June 2006 at 8:49am
i think it would be better if its said tha he is a good slipper
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 09 June 2006 at 9:11am
well worth upping the thread for that
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 11:52am
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You know how some people say a kiwi who averages about 39 like Stephen Fleming is about 45 if you where playing for like australia which i agree,but if thats so then Jacob Oram who averages 48 in test cricket would mean 54 for another country.
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Posted By: Black_cap_95
Date Posted: 20 January 2007 at 9:26am
Stephen fleming also has a 189 against pakistan if i recall rightly great innings and a great partnership with vettori who also made a hundred
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Posted By: afridi_fire
Date Posted: 30 June 2007 at 11:14pm
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fleming is a great batsman and a good leader
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Posted By: sporty
Date Posted: 01 July 2007 at 6:10am
No doubt Fleming is a good leader but I don't I'd use the word "great" for his batting. He is a good batsman, one of New Zealand's finest cricketers, but not great.
------------- the pessimist sees the glass as half empty, the optimist says it is half full..i say "Who drank my beer?!"
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Posted By: afridi_fire
Date Posted: 01 July 2007 at 5:38pm
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he is great the greatest batsman ever produced by NZ
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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 01 July 2007 at 5:44pm
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I would have to disagree, Martin Crowe for me, miles ahead of Fleming.
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Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 01 July 2007 at 6:15pm
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Fleming is definitely not the greatest ever NZ batsman. Martin Crowe and Glenn Turner would be higher on the list for me.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 08 July 2007 at 1:08pm
Definitely, Astle would be also.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: vettori no2
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 9:25am
Many kiwi's have a love/hate relationship with Fleming, It's so infuriating when we really need a good opening, and he gets out for 3 or something stupid. He will score nothing for 3 or 4 games, then get a brilliant ton!
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 4:27pm
You think that's infuriating, have a look at Chris Gayle - he's no different! It's simple really, people with 40- averages don't perform as you would like them to in test cricket.
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Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 5:51pm
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Vettorino2, that is what separates good players from great.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by spin wizard
people with 40- averages don't perform as you would like them to in test cricket. |
best statement I've seen on cricketworld for a while.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: vettori no2
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:22am
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True, true, mind you if you look at his good scores, and his captaincy and fielding, that is a great player.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 2:47am
one of the finest NZ has produced, but I wouldn't call him 'great'.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 3:28am
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Looking only at NZ cricketers, he is.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 10:11pm
certainly, except if we're looking at it on a global stage Martin Crowe is the only NZ'er that can be considered 'great' in my opinion.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 10:22pm
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so you don't consider Hadlee a great huh.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:53am
Bondy is having a hangover mate.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:03am
he sure is, big weekend now that exams are over. In terms of batsman, yes Crowe is the only great, Glen Turner, Martin Donnelly, ummm Astle and of course Fleming can not be considered 'great', though Cairns was a world class all-rounder in his prime.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:22am
Bondy, you still haven't answered his question about Hadlee.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 11:46am
No.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 7:49pm
What??? Is that Bondy?? Are you still having a hangover mate?
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 11 December 2007 at 9:55pm
I'm just being flippant mate, not to worry- I like Hadlee's the greatest ever ;)
------------- Good one Graham!
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