Liam Plunkett V Sajid Mahmood.
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Topic: Liam Plunkett V Sajid Mahmood.
Posted By: Fergie
Subject: Liam Plunkett V Sajid Mahmood.
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 8:42am
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With Harmison Likely to be back for the trent bridge test who should hold on the their place in the side? At the moment I think it to close to call. Plunkett has looked great and has started picking up wikets but Mahmood's action sugests that he will be devistateing with the old ball (rev swing) and as its Jones he would be replacing this would be perfect. But then Plunkett was a class act today, I think at the moment he is a wisker ahead. Plus he can bat a bit. |
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 8:58am
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Plunkett definitely has the edge over Mahmood in the batting department and fills the number 8 spot nicely. As bowlers , Mahmood is quicker and generates more bounce. He does reverse the old ball and with Jones injured , is more than useful after the ball softens.
Plunkett bowled beautifully yesterday and the leg cutter to remove Jayawardene was a cracker. He drags the occasional ball down , but in the main is tighter than Mahmood. It's a tough call , they both have proved their worth to the side , but because of the batting , Plunkett gets my vote. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 9:48am
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Plunkett definitely unless sajid mahmood really bowls well in the second innings he is a handy bat as well was just a bit unlucky in the first test to have had catches dropped of him ------------- |
Posted By: darlo_lad
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 2:26pm
| Plunket, I think he has much better potential of taking wickets. I know Mahmood did well in the first tes, but I would much prefer to see Plunkett in the side. I also think that with Harmison in the side, it will bring the best out of Plunkett with them being County colleagues at Durham. I also think he would be a useful number eight while we a are waiting for Gilo to return and then number nine when he eventually does. |
Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 2:33pm
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tough call...but pace has its own advantage! if its about a bowler who can bat...where is kabir ali? He is better than plunkett, his only test debut was against a strong south african side in which he got 5 wkts..yet somehow he was dropped like many other players before him. Plunkett has done well against a sri lankan team which will struggle to beat bangladesh! Kabir ali: Bowling averages
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 2:45pm
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I agree bring back Kabir Ali,but between Plunkett & Mahmood Clobber said Plunkett touched the 90mp/h mark with the old ball.Liam Plunkett anyday is the better bowler and batsman ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 3:30pm
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Mahmood has surprised me in his two tests by looking a whole lot better
than I would have imagined - bear in mind he couldn't even get into the
Lancashire side for much of last season. Even so I would still go for Plunkett who has a glorious high arm action and I believe has the greater potential |
Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:59pm
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Plunkett looks better. he even bowled well against the indians where some fast bowlers struggled. ------------- sorry guys i don't have pc in my hostel so i can't use the net very often. |
Posted By: Fergie
Date Posted: 29 May 2006 at 7:26pm
| The selectors have left out Harmy so one more chance for them to fight it out, round one to plunket |
Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 29 May 2006 at 8:05pm
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I think plunkett has a better chance over mahmood. Even though mahmood did do quite well in the first test, i would still say he is not yet to the standard of plunkett. Mahmood has a lot of things which he can improve upon, as he has pace which he should use consistently to greater effect than he is doing now. Plunkett also has greater batting ability. ------------- Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time!!! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 5:54am
Plunkett bowled really well 6 for 60 in the 2nd test enogh for him to go into the next test ,but i would also want him to score some runs .Is Harmison sure to come back??????Poor Ian Bell i feel sorry for him .  ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 8:54am
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Liam Plunkett for sure he did well in his last test as dips mentioned 6/60,but about him feeling the NO.8 spot comfortabley im not sure about it made a good 50 in an ODI match in that position but so far in his test career his averaging about 2 with the bat,but he will get better without a doubt. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 9:48am
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Both are likely to start on Friday and that can only be beneficial to England. The more experience they can both get before Pakistan and Australia come around will be invaluable.
Plunkett knows Fletcher wants some runs from him , and as yet , he's failed badly. He's better than that shabby shot in the last test and needs to knuckle down and make an impression. Mahmood can hit big ones too , but he'll never be a number 8. He'll know that it'll be his bowling that will give him the chance to represent his country and he'll always bat around 10. His primary advantage over Plunkett is pace and bounce - something that might get him the nod if the sun comes out and we get some pacier pitches!! His disadvantage is his similarities to Harmison. Fortunately he does reverse the old ball , but then he's competing with Jones and Flintoff and he won't replace either of those! I'm sure they'll both give their all , come Friday and it'll be fascinating to watch. Irrespective of who plays in the near future , both have the prospect of long test careers. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 11:52am
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Mahmood has a slightly slingy action and I like the way he has a preference to bowl full. But as many of the commentators pointed out in the last test Plunkett has a much better seam position and right now I believe that gives him the edge. Saj has brilliant potential and I would say more potential than Plunkett but a better seam position and slightly better accuracy is all thats seperating him from that position in the england squad he wants ------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 1:34pm
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I agree Mazzy , of the two I think Mahmood could be the one that runs through a side to win a test. He might be a couple of years older than Plunkett but if he keeps improving , batsmen might not fancy him on a quick track. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 2:10pm
This forum is conducted in English , respect that please, none of this rubbish. Your post has been deleted , but I'm posting here so you can see how we deal with such efforts. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 7:25am
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im my opinion Plunkett's just edged a spot on the team. he's a tidy bowler and a better batsman than Mahmood. ------------- |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 6:39am
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yup also with the ball hitting the ground with an upright seam ,pudsey has the advantage ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 10:51am
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After Sajid's nightmare in the last match I'd even go for my mother-in-law before him at this time!
Nice slow (VERY slow!) left armer is Mary , accurate ,good seam position , but she tires quickly (well she's 82 now!!) ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |