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Topic: Problem with incoming deliveries
Posted By: dips_december
Subject: Problem with incoming deliveries
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 6:40am
I am having problems facing incoming deliveries especially in-swingers ,i have a high backlift as well and i am trying to play as straight as possible ,whats the probelm pls help



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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:06am

I have the same problem

can anyone help



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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:08am
wow thats great

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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:11am

Well its really a bit of a problem as nearly every club I come up agaist has a fast inswinger.

this season i've made 2 ducks then faced a team without one and was retired on 31 (stupid U13 rules)



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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:12am
i dont get to bat much because i am a bowler but i am trying hard to improve my batting

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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:16am

Well I open and captain for my club and school

So its kinda important I don't always get a duck.

Especially as we lack good batsmen in our club team.

If you have a high batlift though then I suggest you lower it, that helped me when I was younger



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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:18am
thanks i am already working on it though

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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:24am
Another thing someone said to me was to get on the front foot to fast inswingers, you could try, I definitely will be

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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 7:26am
Thanks again

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Posted By: darlo_lad
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 9:58am
Try to angle the backswing with the bat, this is something I am working on to help me play straighter. As when I don't do this the bat face closes which makes me hit through covers, mid wicket area instead of through the V.


Posted By: ahses winners!
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:22am
well i play for sussex under 15s and im mainlly a legspinner but i can certainly bat.try getting your foot to the pith of the ball and use a forward press something the england side use what you do is advance ever so slightly and if its short take a step forward and should be able to pull it.but if its full take a step back and defend or play a cut.also dont play to early but the main main main thing and this is very important and if you do this you will go far keep your head straight and inline with the ball and soon as it pitches then hit i  have got mny 6s and 4s by doing this basiclly time the shot i never forget when i was playing someone bowled and perfect length ball i took one step and straight drive for 6x over his head. all because i got my foot  to the pitch of the ball and also timed it perfectly remember head straight and foot to th pitch of the ball and you will go far


Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:30am
i agree foot to the pitch of the ball is a must when playing forward and dont let your body fall to the side as you play a drive as this will mean you will miss time the shot.


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:35am
Originally posted by dips_december

I am having problems facing incoming deliveries especially in-swingers ,i have a high backlift as well and i am trying to play as straight as possible ,whats the probelm pls help


I think you should angle the bat face towards mid wicket as your playing the drive against an inswinging delivery. Although if you have the bat face closed all the time (like me), you should be able to play the inswinger with ease.


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Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:39am
but if the bowler is half decent he will work you out and bowl a straight one to you and your on your way back to the pavilion


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Hugo

but if the bowler is half decent he will work you out and bowl a straight one to you and your on your way back to the pavilion


Not if you know what you're doing.

Another way to deal with it is to take guard on leg stump and when the ball is swinging in, you can drive it through the covers, but if it's straying down middle and leg stump, then punch it through the on side.


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Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:51am
thats a better idea RHB takeing a guard on leg stump


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 2:57pm

Originally posted by dips_december

I am having problems facing incoming deliveries especially in-swingers ,i have a high backlift as well and i am trying to play as straight as possible ,whats the probelm pls help

Well mate, One cannot identify your problems to the inswingers as we can't see you bat. But of the problems may be that you cannot adjust your self well after the ball has pitched.

This is how I deal with inswingers. I wait on the ball and if it coming in to me i will then play the flick shot and thats why I don't get out to them cause I play them late and I have mastered the flick stroke by now so I know i wouldn't get lbw.

Overall, try mastering the flick shot and playing the ball a little later and try and adjust your self.

Originally posted by righthandbat

Not if you know what you're doing.

Another way to deal with it is to take guard on leg stump and when the ball is swinging in, you can drive it through the covers, but if it's straying down middle and leg stump, then punch it through the on side.

Trust me, this guy is the next punter. He really knows how to bat. His tips are worth it.




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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 4:26pm
i wouldnt try to flick the ball unless you are very good at it, best to try and play it straight to mid on or midwicket!

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Posted By: Pumaman
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 4:39pm
I don't know what your usual guard is but mark out leg stump as well when u bat and once u have picked up the inwing open up your stance by putting your front foot on leg. I am a left hander who was always getting caught by the inswingers so i mde this adjustment last year. This way you you are free to bring the bat down to hit through mid on/wicket and if it is on your pads you can hit across the line because you know you won't be out lbw.

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Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 11:03pm
i find getting well forward to inswingers helps as you eliminate the risk of being caught of an edge and if you get well forward you cannoy be given out LBW


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 4:31am
The reason why I mentioned you angle the bat face towards mid wicket is because it's a little harder for you to edge the ball to the slips area, then it is when you completely open the blade, but if your guard is on leg stump, then you can move across your stumps and play the ball through the cover region. 

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Posted By: Monty_Mo
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:19pm

what i normally do is take leg guard, and wait for the ball to swing, then play the shot, im not an aggresive batsman..

i think you said you have ahigh bat lift, against swing bowling i think a lower bat lift may be most affective. this is what i do have a low bat lift gives you more time to play the shot, however if your aggresive then perhaps stand at leg, but be awear of the away swing. a half decent bowler will work out your batting for the inswing and perhaps push out an outswinger...

jus my 2p...



Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by spin wizard

Originally posted by dips_december

I am having problems facing incoming deliveries especially in-swingers ,i have a high backlift as well and i am trying to play as straight as possible ,whats the probelm pls help


Well mate, One cannot identify your problems to the inswingers as we can't see you bat. But of the problems may be that you cannot adjust your self well after the ball has pitched.


This is how I deal with inswingers. I wait on the ball and if it coming in to me i will then play the flick shot and thats why I don't get out to them cause I play them late and I have mastered the flick stroke by now so I know i wouldn't get lbw.


Overall, try mastering the flick shot and playing the ball a little later and try and adjust your self.


Originally posted by righthandbat

Not if you know what you're doing.Another way to deal with it is to take guard on leg stump and when the ball is swinging in, you can drive it through the covers, but if it's straying down middle and leg stump, then punch it through the on side.


Trust me, this guy is the next punter. He really knows how to bat. His tips are worth it.<!-- Signature -->


yes it looks good ,thanks both of you

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Posted By: still not out
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 5:13pm
I find it easy enough as you can pick the line as it is in the air longer than normal. then i just bring my bat down ontop of it and block it out.

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Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by slogger72N/O

(stupid U13 rules)

dont you have to be 13 to go on this forum



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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 8:24pm

to Dips december, i have an idea!

it involves a small trigger movement, not one of these ones that supposedly gets you in a good position to play etc, but simply helps with the balance, and as sachin says thats all that matters!

i suggest trying moving the back foot back and accross, but make sure that your head doesnt move with it, because then you have much better balance and shouldnt fall toward the off, if you dont know what i mean, many srilankans use this trigger (jayawardene, sangakara etc) i used this trigger for a while and i could play on drives etc with ease!



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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 09 June 2006 at 6:43am
Originally posted by crick

to Dips december, i have an idea!

it involves a small trigger movement, not one of these ones that supposedly gets you in a good position to play etc, but simply helps with the balance, and as sachin says thats all that matters!

i suggest trying moving the back foot back and accross, but make sure that your head doesnt move with it, because then you have much better balance and shouldnt fall toward the off, if you dont know what i mean, many srilankans use this trigger (jayawardene, sangakara etc) i used this trigger for a while and i could play on drives etc with ease!



That's exactly what I was pointing out to him before, except I didn't explain it aswell as this.


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Posted By: scorpsteals
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 6:53pm
expect an inswinger on every ball thrown at you initially, infact expect yorkers, bouncers and out swingers also and you shall be good.


Posted By: sachin_fan
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 9:20pm
I would say come on the line of the ball and while moving guide it on the legside

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Posted By: sachin_fan
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 9:21pm
It is important to play in the line of the ball



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Posted By: sachin_fan
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by crick

to Dips december, i have an idea!

it involves a small trigger movement, not one of these ones that supposedly gets you in a good position to play etc, but simply helps with the balance, and as sachin says thats all that matters!

i suggest trying moving the back foot back and accross, but make sure that your head doesnt move with it, because then you have much better balance and shouldnt fall toward the off, if you dont know what i mean, many srilankans use this trigger (jayawardene, sangakara etc) i used this trigger for a while and i could play on drives etc with ease!


Yes that is what im sayin



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Posted By: still not out
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by Top Cat

Originally posted by slogger72N/O

(stupid U13 rules)

dont you have to be 13 to go on this forum

U13 counts 13 year olds as well you know. its kind of based on the acedemic year, so U13 is year 8, or whatever if you go to a private school



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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 1:57pm

On the subject of inswinging deliveries,

i find that getting a good stride in helps to limit LBW dismissals as well as bowled. I used to have loads of problems with inswingers but now i focus on getting my foot to the pitch and more importantly getting outside the line of offstump if the bowler is starting to really move it inwards. More often then not the pad proves good enough defence.



Posted By: still not out
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by TCA123

More often then not the pad proves good enough defence.

especialy if youve played a shot, because then the umpire would have to be evil/stupid to give you out.

 



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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:56pm
yeah definately...i wouldn't call it padding up...more providing a defence if you miss with a stroke


Posted By: rightarmleggy
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:16am
im not really much of a batsman, but i find that when facing any swing bowling, its important to play the shot as late as possibe and when you do play it get to the pitch, and if its definatly goin wide of your stumps, just leave it

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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:17am
I have got enough tip ,I think and I am facing them quite well now .Thanks for all your advices .

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Posted By: rocket
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 2:34pm
i play for essex u13's and this is what i think, i think if the ball is swinging into you you should open up your stance a bit not to much and dont get your front foot to far across or youll get lbw and you should try to play the ball towards mid wicket as much as you can



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