Batting Discussion
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Topic: Batting Discussion
Posted By: RightHandBat
Subject: Batting Discussion
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:14am
I thought this thread might be as successful as the spin thread by MiNiWaRnEy, where people can get help with their batting, ask for tips etc. All of the other batting threads like this kind of died, so I'm hoping this one doesn't aswell. Get posting!
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Posted By: akki18
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:20am
I can give some tips of how to play spin as well as the reverse sweep
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:22am
Well, get going then! 
I can also give some tips on how to play spin bowling aswell.
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Posted By: akki18
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:32am
Originally posted by RightHandBat
Well, get going then! 
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Playing off spin:
&nbs p;
I have had no trouble playing offspin to date.Most of the
non-subcontinent teams indulge in sweeping against the spinners.While
this might be a good ploy if the ball is keeping low but if the pitch
has a bit of bounce sweep shot should be avoided as much as
possible.The only time the ball must be sweeped if it is on or outside
the legstump.Never use your pad against spinners.Always use the bat.
The key to playing spin is to get to the pitch of the ball.If you are
looking to accelerate against them then the best thing is to charge and
not try and stand in the crease and try to slog.Point the face of
your bat towards mid on and slightly towards the sky.Connect to the
pitch of the ball and see it soaring to the stands.
All in all always use your bat and not pad and get to the pitch of the ball.Playing of spin will always be a piece of cake then.
Meanwhile this must be my longest post ever.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 8:04am
I play Off Spin by taking guard on off stump if the spinner is ripping it a mile and because if he pitches it wide of off stump and I miss the ball, my pad will be outside the line of the stumps, and I'm unable to be given out lbw. If he's turning it just a fraction, I play him like a slow seam bowler.
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Posted By: akki18
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 8:07am
Agreed.Thats the best way to play an off spin bowler according to me.
For the leg spinner.Take guard on leg stump and you should be facing
midwicket in your stance according to me,so that you can free your arms.
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 1:04pm
This one was meant to do the same job: http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1583&PN=1 - http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1583&a mp;PN=1
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 3:18pm
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Originally posted by akkie18
The only time the ball must be sweeped if it is on or outside the legstump.... |
Well said mate , Thats the only time I do it or if it is like very full on middle or off I will do it. Maybe we should fedex this thread to some of the english top order batter .
My technique is excellent against spin though and I don't plan to change it at all.
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 5:37pm
yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, bad shot selection
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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 9:03pm
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No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 9:19pm
yeah that can be effective, but do you decide, if its in that spot im gonna sweep, before he bowls?
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 6:45am
Originally posted by crick
yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, bad shot selection |
The slog sweep can be peformed with ease to a ball outside off stump. A very effective shot to play against a high quality offspinner and even if you miss it, you won't be out if it hits you outside the line.
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Posted By: akki18
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 8:35am
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Originally posted by Warne in making
No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that |
Thats what I said .It is not bad to hit it from outside the off stump but if the ball bounces unexpectedly you are doomed
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 1:04pm
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Originally posted by RightHandBat
Originally posted by crick
yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, or bad shot selection |
The slog sweep can be peformed with ease to a ball outside off stump. A very effective shot to play against a high quality offspinner and even if you miss it, you won't be out if it hits you outside the line.
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yeah but im sure that shot would be a bit premeditated!
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by crick
yeah, if someone sweeps from outside off, or on off etc that is usually a premeditated shot, or bad shot selection |
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Posted By: Shoaib_UK
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 2:22pm
Anyone here have trouble facing those 60 somethings who bowl right arm lob at 15 mph? I hate it when they bowl, usually on Sunday friendlies. In my desire to take them out of the attack I have more than once been embarassed!
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 2:35pm
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I've not succumbed to one myself but I know the sort of thing you mean. I remember playing at Wembley a few years ago and their captain was this really really irritating old guy who just lobbed it up, and the combination of his personality and the filth he was bowling encouraged batsmen to have a go every time. The guy would inevitably end up with figures around 3 for 40 off 5 overs each time (all caught on the boundary naturally).
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 3:33pm
ive found that with those guys, whilst you want to hit them out the park, best is to use your feet and try to play shots properly, work the singles! if you safely get 5-6 runs an over, then he shouldnt keep bowling as he aint getting wickets but still going for runs, and then he is bound to give the bad ball, so even more than 5-6 runs is expected
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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 9:33pm
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my sweep is not premeditated, i make sure it aint too full
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 6:36am
Originally posted by Warne in making
my sweep is not premeditated, i make sure it aint too full |
Same with mine. I like to sweep anything just a little wide of the off stump or anything down leg if the shots there for it.
Just outside off stump - Slog Sweep (when its there for a forward defense) Really Wide - Reverse Sweep Straying down middle and leg - Sweep Shot Down leg side - Paddle Sweep
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 1:55pm
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Originally posted by righthandbat
Same with mine. I like to sweep anything just a little wide of the off stump or anything down leg if the shots there for it.
Just outside off stump - Slog Sweep (when its there for a forward defense) Really Wide - Reverse Sweep Straying down middle and leg - Sweep Shot Down leg side - Paddle Sweep |
Good tips here mate , I really never played the slog sweep but had a go once at a reverse sweep in which wasn't that good but my sweep shot and paddle sweep are excellent.
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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 4:45pm
Ive played one reverse sweep in a game. Last over. In fact, it wasnt a reverse sweep, it was more of a premeditated left handed slog! One bounce four!!!!
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 5:27pm
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I only play the reverse sweep when I'm mucking around as I always screw it up. My normal sweep is much better however, I even sweep medium pacers and have only been out once sweeping
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Posted By: the_dwee
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 7:16pm
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what is the best trigger movement for facing fast in-swingers? and what is the best for facing out-swingers?
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 22 June 2006 at 6:51am
I'd say for you, you should take a low backlift and wait for the ball to do it's thing in the air then play the selected stroke.
When I face fast bigswinning inswingers, I like to bat with a highish backlift on leg stump, wait for the ball to do its thing and play the selected shot. I love to punch them with the bat down the ground for four, even when playing that late on the ball. It's brilliant.
Same thing with an outswinging delivery, just wait for it to do its thing and then play your selected stroke.
My initial movement is a slight shift of weight onto the front foot before playing a stroke. The best thing for you to do is to watch a batsman and sometimes before a bowler bowls, you will see these little movement, try and copy it in the nets and you might get real used to it.
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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 22 June 2006 at 9:27pm
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You should have the same trigger movement to any bowler, just play a different shot!!
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Posted By: spin_doctor
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 10:43am
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The sweep is just like any other shot but it should only be played when the ball is in the right area just like a cover drive should be played when it full and on the offside
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 7:21am
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Originally posted by -JP-
This one was meant to do the same job: http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1583&PN=1 - http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1583&a mp;a mp;PN=1
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I thought there was another thread I just couldn't find it. Back on topic, I have lots of trouble with short pitched bowling. I don't want to hook it, as I'm paranoid about being caught at square leg. Any suggestions.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 10:47am
Hit it along the ground if you have to. Hit down on the ball and make sure you get ontop of the ball.
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Posted By: Ck_spin
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 5:00pm
Yesterday in a game, i used my helmet to play against a head high bouncer. It went for 4!!! But my head hurts a lot .
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 5:18pm
So in other words you did a Upul Tharanga
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Posted By: Ck_spin
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 9:20pm
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:31pm
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but whether he meant that is debatable !
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:54am
Let's discuss each others initial movements now. What type of movement do each of you have just before the bowler releases the ball?
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:06pm
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raising the back lift and getting ready to move foreward, being on your toes to stay back.
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Posted By: Paul Alcock
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 4:37pm
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I seem to take a step forward onto the front foot as it's easy to come onto the back foot for a shot if necessary.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 11:29am
Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 10:02pm
I tend to have a high backlift to a fast bowler because it makes it easier to 'punch' the ball without too much effort. Obviously situations dictate little changes to my trigger movement depending on what kind of bowler is bowling.
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Right Arm Bat
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Posted By: ozzie001
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:06am
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I try to stay as still as possible then transfer my weight to my to the front foot as the bowler delivers the ball. As mentioned in other posts I also find it easy from this position to play from either front or back foot whilst still watching the ball closely.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:44am
Originally posted by TCA123
I tend to have a high backlift to a fast bowler because it makes it easier to 'punch' the ball without too much effort. Obviously situations dictate little changes to my trigger movement depending on what kind of bowler is bowling. |
I also have a high backlift and an unorthodox grip, so I get lots of power from punching/driving the ball, whether it hits the top of the bat, or the bottom of the bat.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:15am
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Originally posted by righthandbat
Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke. |
You seem more of a Indian than an aussie. Strange it is.
My is to carry my backfoot across then my front foot a little forward before the bowler release then when he releases the ball , I then either continue to go forward , or ease backwards for the shorter balls or even stay dead on the spot for backward of a lenght deliveries.
I don't go forward for balls on my leg stump though no matter if it is a drive cause I flick um.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:27am
Originally posted by spin wizard
Originally posted by righthandbat
Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke. |
You seem more of a Indian than an aussie. Strange it is. |
How so? It's just how I bat.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:22am
thats the trigger movement the indians use. Thats what I meant. I know its unorthodox of an aussie so thats why I said that.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:27am
Ah, right. That's the movement I grew up using so I guess it is kind of weird to some people for an Aussie to be using an indian movement.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:33am
thats what I meant mate , spot on.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 2:44pm
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I do a flick on the legside. It gets me runs and frequently gets me out. For example take a match not too long ago. First ball i leaned and flicked it for 4 off my leg stump. Two balls later i do the exact same movement, miss the ball and legstump is gone.
I think it's because my head falls over.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 12 July 2006 at 3:04am
Your leg stump is gone because your not well balanced when executing the shot. Balance is the key to scoring lots of runs and your head probably isn't straight.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 12 July 2006 at 5:00am
I have a slight backlift and shuffle across a bit .
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 12 July 2006 at 7:36am
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Originally posted by Ck_spin
Upul Tharanga?? |
You know the Sri Lankan batsman, Harmi, hit him on the head (well, the helmet) and it went for 4
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Posted By: nishy
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:08pm
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Iam a right hand batsman
I have a tendency to play a lot in the sqaure, third-man and gully areas.. and am restricted when it comes to drives or on-side
People who watched me bat mentioned that the moment ball is released by the bowler, my left foot is going back (subconsciously - i seem to be making space for the cut shot on the off)
Is this my trigger movement - how do i correct this
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 11:11pm
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if it is your trigger movement without knowing it then the only way to change it would be to conciously not move it, or move it in the correct direction and repeating it till you are used to the new one by use of throw downs, which way is your foot moving? i.e. toward leg, towards the stumps, toward off? or a combination of 2?
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:31am
Originally posted by TCA123
I do a flick on the legside. It gets me runs and frequently gets me out. For example take a match not too long ago. First ball i leaned and flicked it for 4 off my leg stump. Two balls later i do the exact same movement, miss the ball and legstump is gone.
I think it's because my head falls over. |
I also forgot to mention that you're eyes aren't level, if they aren't, it takes longer for your brain to process incoming information. That's why balance is very important.
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Posted By: ozzie001
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 11:33am
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Originally posted by nishy
I have a tendency to play a lot in the sqaure, third-man and gully areas.. and am restricted when it comes to drives or on-side |
I would say much more behind square. Are you getting caught a lot behind the wicket? Are you opening the blade when you play to gully. I'd suggest trying to play as straight as possible.
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Posted By: nishy
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 3:54pm
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ozzie001
I rarely get caught behind - I play very late - and yes open the bat to gully..
What i have noticed is when the ball pitches a little full on the middle and cuts in - I get bowled - basically like a sitting duck
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 6:33am
Cover your gate in between bat and pad up.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:06pm
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Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.
Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?
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Posted By: mikeeboy
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:23am
Originally posted by TCA123
Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.
Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?
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You should be sweeping on length, not line. If you pick the right length each time, you should always make contact thus avoiding any potential lbw.
If you're only sweeping when the ball is on leg stump, if the ball isn't quite full enough you risk getting top edges.
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Posted By: mikeeboy
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:30am
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I used to have a trigger movement of moving my back foot back. I was awesome on the back foot, especially pull shots, anything just short of a length could be whipped over square leg. Couldn't hit a cover drive though.
Then I had a season full of lbws with the ball keeping low, so I consciously changed my initial movment to a small forward press. My defense became rock solid, and the cover drive my best shot, but my pull shot is now terrible. With no confidence of the bounce, and my weight on the front foot, I've often been caught at mid wicket, high on the bat. Cut shots aren't bad but occasionally get caught at gully.
My head also started falling to the off side, which meant missing out on the legside freebies.
Overall, I'm a better player because of it, but can't find anything comfortable enough to play all shots with the same efficiency.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:36am
That also happened to me mikeeboy. I had a season of lbw's which ticked me off, after looking back and fixing the problems, I became a better and more technical player. The only thing is, I didn't use that movement.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by mikeeboy
Originally posted by TCA123
Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.
Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?
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Well i've been told by someone that you shouldn't sweep the ball unless it is on our outside leg stump. But i find that the ball rarely pitches there so where else should i use the sweep.
You should be sweeping on length, not line. If you pick the right length each time, you should always make contact thus avoiding any potential lbw.
If you're only sweeping when the ball is on leg stump, if the ball isn't quite full enough you risk getting top edges. |
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Posted By: rightarmleggy
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:11am
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Originally posted by Warne in making
No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that |
sweeping against off spinners is a bad idea unless just outside leg stump, the chances are that if you miss the ball your going to b out LBW
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:38am
Originally posted by rightarmleggy
Originally posted by Warne in making
No, not necesarily. If its turning, hitting it with the spin is fantastic like that. Ive hit many a boundry off off spinners doing that |
sweeping against off spinners is a bad idea unless just outside leg stump, the chances are that if you miss the ball your going to b out LBW |
Take guard on off stump, mate.
I've also noticed my batting is great, I haven't mistimed the ball in 2 weeks when I've been batting.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 05 August 2006 at 5:39pm
Has anybody got any advice on playing the on drive. I'm terrible through the legside and particularly mid wicket. I got a friend to bowl round the wicket at my legstump so i could practice on drives. I barely connected with any of them. I have a fear of deliveries on or around my leg stump.
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Right Arm Bat
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 12:46am
Basically, if it's a ball going into your pads, the best thing to do is to flick it. If it's a ball going towards middle and leg, the on drive is a great shot to play, make sure your bat comes up in a straight line, and then bring it down in a straight line so you connect. Maybe you could also try angling the face of the bat towards mid on.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:00pm
yeah i'll try what you said. cheers
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Posted By: muddyslufc
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 12:43am
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im an off and leg spinner so know how to bat agains them today i was messi bout against a medium pace bowler and just sweeping at mostly everthing aslong as your bats gets in the way then your ok i stand with mi legs apart and bat impertween it easy to do both shots then....
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 1:11am
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Originally posted by tca123
Has anybody got any advice on playing the on drive. I'm terrible through the legside and particularly mid wicket. |
Ha ha , hard luck mate. Thats my strongest area and my brother Backfoot Master can tell you that as well.
Originally posted by righthandbat
Basically, if it's a ball going into your pads, the best thing to do is to flick it.... |
Thats exactly what I do mate , I flick everything thats coming on middle and leg thats about lower belly height and below.
I mastered that shot , I hardly ever get LBW. The key to flicking is playing the ball at the last moment. Pretty hard for some but not for me. I am just good at playing late. When I play at normal speed , I don't play as well as when I am playing later. I also have battled with many bowlers who have made the ball reverse away (the wind helped them to be precise) and those that reverse inwards and have played them well and with ease.
I also am very good at the sweep shot. I sweep anything from an off spinner pitch on the stump (those that when you drive them you get caught). I have had many success doing it and even though I am a late order batter , I was the best at sweeping for the nationals and my school side.
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:07am
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Originally posted by Spin wizard
Ha ha , hard luck mate. Thats my strongest area and my brother Backfoot Master can tell you that as well. |
Ya thats true Spin Wizard is a master throught the leg side. I see ball coming to his legs(very high and low) and he flicks it away powerfully for four.
I am very good at playing leg spinners mainly because me and Spin wizard train every day at home. Trust me guys Spin Wizard can bowl leggy very well, lots of variation and turn. At first I couldn't play spin but since then spinners are like sweets to me.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:08am
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I normally bats on leg stump for leg spinners. When a ball pitch outside leg stump I get forward, cover up my stumps with my pad and bat. Ball on leg and middle stump I normally flicks or play the on drive. When i do the On drive I angle the bat slightly down the leg side. I am very good at opening the face of the bat. One older like how I gets full face of the bat on the ball.
Trust me since I playing cricket I never got caught in Slips. I have great control of the ball and always keep the ball down mainly because I play with the face of the bat down and sometime soft hands, I don't try to hit the ball to hard so a chance of a catch is un likely.
Tca 123 If u need help please PM me, I surely will give u advice.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:12am
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One older like how I gets full face of the bat on the ball.
Correction: One of my older brother like how I gets full face of the bat on the ball.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 6:45am
Originally posted by BackFoot Master
I normally bats on leg stump for leg spinners. When a ball pitch outside leg stump I get forward, cover up my stumps with my pad and bat. Ball on leg and middle stump I normally flicks or play the on drive. When i do the On drive I angle the bat slightly down the leg side. I am very good at opening the face of the bat. One older like how I gets full face of the bat on the ball.
Trust me since I playing cricket I never got caught in Slips. I have great control of the ball and always keep the ball down mainly because I play with the face of the bat down and sometime soft hands, I don't try to hit the ball to hard so a chance of a catch is un likely.
Tca 123 If u need help please PM me, I surely will give u advice. |
I bat on leg stump aswell, and open my stance a little.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 2:25am
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Drive
well guys read carefully and take my advice seriously If u want to be a master on the drive. 1st u have to decide what length and line will be the safest area to attempt the drive. Pitch up ball will be the best to attempt it. If the ball comes like back of a length or too much on the up and u attempt a drive, their is a big chance of getting an edge and being caught in cover or midoff because u may not get enough control on the shot, wait on the bad ones(pitch up) they will come.
Please don't play away from your body. Make sure u get your balance so u can control the shot better. Always keep the bat face down so if their is an edge a chance of being caught will be unlikely. Thats all for now. I give u more tomorrow.
U can PM me for more.
Folks stay out of trouble. Don't drink too much.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 7:06am
Driving on the up is a walk in the park. I absolutely love it, there's nothing better then just rocking onto the backfoot and driving it down the ground.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 4:23am
How has everyones batting been lately? Mines been absolutely great. That great timing from 3 weeks ago is still here when I go out to bat. I'm just loving it.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 7:38pm
Well , I really don't practice much anymore since June with the hard ball but I does be practicing with BFM in our yard with a tennis ball and its been going well. I am playing the pull , drives real good. My strenght is always through the leg side and on my pads. Timing is good as well but I am not all that good a batter though.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 11:17am
Originally posted by spin wizard
Well , I really don't practice much anymore since June with the hard ball but I does be practicing with BFM in our yard with a tennis ball and its been going well. I am playing the pull , drives real good. My strenght is always through the leg side and on my pads. Timing is good as well but I am not all that good a batter though. |
How is Backfoot_Masters batting going?
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: jake
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 12:52pm
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Hi i have been batting high in the order this season but hav struggled playing short balls and also playing spin but have found it easy o play other bowlers, please give me help!!!
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 6:16pm
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Originally posted by RHB
How is Backfoot_Masters batting going? |
Solid as ever. He resembles Marcus Trescothick but he is the right handed version you can say. He like trescothick only move their foot when driving. I do believe though that he will suffer on a seaming wicket. As long as the wicket is bouncy though , He will can be a nightmare to any bowler. He drives real good on the up as well. He plays spin pretty good now. He have the best tactic against my leg spin. He whips my good lenght leggies between mid on and mid wicket with ease and comes down the track to me and play me well. I have seen him take on an offy and murder the hell out of him.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 7:05pm
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Well right hand bat.
My batting is coming along great. I don't train much with the hard ball any more because these Children on my Island prefer Rum more than Cricket, NO one is Interesting in playing a game of cricket at our park. These guys here are coward.
Inam playing spin like a King now thanks to breat bowling by Spin Wizard. I more believe in balance than footworks. I am great at pull shot. I am also good at bookfoot drive, I normally runs the ball down through point off my backfoot.
Sorry I have to go. I tell u More later
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:01am
I believe in Balance and Footwork both equally. It's best to have great balance mixed with great footwork.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 18 August 2006 at 5:26am
I still cant find out whats the difference between the pull and hook shots ,both appear to be the same .Can someone explain ?
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 18 August 2006 at 6:47am
The Pull Shot is a shot played to a ball below the neck. The Hook is played to a ball above the neck, around Head Height.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 20 August 2006 at 8:48am
Well, I can just say I'm really happy leading into this Australian 2006/07 Cricket Season! 
Came back from the nets yesterday after 3 and a half hours of batting. Played brilliantly, played some cracking drives, some perfectly timed flicks off middle stump. My bowling was also in good nick, I was bowling with the straightest seam you could get, I got my friend out once but the thing I was really pleased about is my batting leading into this season.
How's everyone elses cricket going for them?
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: JBatLC
Date Posted: 21 August 2006 at 8:46pm
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It's been going good. I play for my Region. Bigger than Junior County but smaller than national. I bowl leg spin and bat at number 6.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 22 August 2006 at 5:13am
Thanks RHB .
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:15pm
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When does the season start in aussie RHB. Mid october or late october.
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:17pm
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Originally posted by jake
Hi i have been batting high in the order this season but hav struggled playing short balls and also playing spin but have found it easy o play other bowlers, please give me help!!! |
well all I can tell u is when u playing a short balls it's either the pull or cut shot. If u want to attempt the pull shot get your body in line with the ball, get on the backfoot ( make sure u are well balance) and play the shot. If the ball is above the head I will advice u to play a left alone, u may not get the control u want because it's to high.
when u want to play the cut shot for a short ball, I normally goes on the backfoot to get great balance then plays the shot. I normally plays it when it's wide outside the outstump( not to wide) and another things I don't play the cut shot when it's close to my body because their is a possiblity the ball will get a thick edge an fall in the hands of gully, 2nd slip or something. If u know u are as good STRAUSS to play a cut shot close to your body, well attempt.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:18pm
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If u are interesting in playing big shots against the leg spinners don't play against the spin, which simply means if the ball pitch outside off stump and turning towards the offside I don't play a cover drive on the up because their is a chance of an edge. If the ball is pitch full outside off stump, then you can play the cover drive as long as u get to the pitch off the ball. If short outside offstump the cut shot is the key, not the cover drive.
If it's short outside leg stump play the pull shot. If it's pitch up u use the off drive, sweep or lob drive. If it's back of a length just pad it away, if pitch outside leg stump. And when trying to hit a leggy for six try to hits it straight as possibly, incase you doesn't get to the pitch of the ball, a chance is unlikely, don't try to cross hit too much.
If u need any advice pm me
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:26pm
Thanks that not only helped jake, but also me. A very useful thread for tailenders who want to imrpove, like me.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 6:39am
Originally posted by spin wizard
When does the season start in aussie RHB. Mid october or late october.
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Around October. Signups are next month though, and I've got a spot in Second Grade. 
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 3:52pm
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Well done mate , not to far away from state cricket. I am looking forward to playing against you some day and bamboozle you and also hit you out of the park .
My club season begins in February. The College season may start in January / February.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 5:11pm
Is St.Vincent is near Australia? I thought it was near West Indies.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 6:51pm
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Originally posted by dravid fan
Is St.Vincent is near Australia? I thought it was near West Indies. |
Silly boy . I had a laugh with this.
Na , St. Vincent is not near the West Indies. It is in the West Indies .
Also I meant to play against him in an international match (West Indies vs Australia) in the future.
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 26 August 2006 at 11:26am
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 26 August 2006 at 4:47pm
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Originally posted by RHB
I'll be looking forward to it . |
After I'm finished with you , you won't be looking forward to another match against me .
Anyways RHB , which shot do you think you play the best ? Which shot do you have the most difficulty playing ? Which kind of bowling you really find hard to play for you ?
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 26 August 2006 at 11:58pm
Originally posted by spin wizard
Originally posted by RHB
I'll be looking forward to it . |
After I'm finished with you , you won't be looking forward to another match against me .
Anyways RHB , which shot do you think you play the best ? Which shot do you have the most difficulty playing ? Which kind of bowling you really find hard to play for you ? |
You won't even start with me. After I'm done with you, you won't be looking forward to another match against me!! 
What shot I play the best? Well, I play the 3 drives down the ground perfectly, the Pull/Hook shot are good, and the flick off middle stump is another one I am good at, and enjoy playing.
What shot I have a difficulty playing? I don't think I have any at the moment, all are in perfect nick.
What kind of bowling I find hard to face? Well, It's the same as above, I just love facing quality spin bowling whether it be off spin or leg spin, and I also love playing Pace bowling, Medium all through to Fast.
What about you?
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 27 August 2006 at 6:33pm
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I was in training yesterday for the 1st time in a month or so. I played some great shot against the spinners(leggy & offspin) especially the cover drive and the cut shot. But I struggled a bit against the seamers, I don't know why.
RHB, Well cover drive & off drive is what I does best. I find it most difficult played a seamers when they bowled a yorker at my middle stump or when they bowled a ball towards my hips down the legside( I really struggle), if it below my hit I can play it well.
------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 27 August 2006 at 8:15pm
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Originally posted by RHB
You won't even start with me. After I'm done with you, you won't be looking forward to another match against me!! 
What shot I play the best? Well, I play the 3 drives down the ground perfectly, the Pull/Hook shot are good, and the flick off middle stump is another one I am good at, and enjoy playing.
What shot I have a difficulty playing? I don't think I have any at the moment, all are in perfect nick.
What kind of bowling I find hard to face? Well, It's the same as above, I just love facing quality spin bowling whether it be off spin or leg spin, and I also love playing Pace bowling, Medium all through to Fast.
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What shot I play the best?
I play the flick shot best and as I say I have a feeling I can play it better than some of the International guys.
What shot I have a difficulty playing?
Cover drive , the reason being that I don't have any confidence playing it mainly as it is real risky in terms of edges and my back lift is very high as well. I also have some difficulty playing the pull/hook shot. There was a time I was real good at them but cut it out to be more orthodox... In other words to develop other cricket shots. And to make it worse , I don't bat with helmets. I really don't enjoy balls way outside the off stump pitched up. There was one time I went after one of those balls and instead of cover driving it , I slashed after it like jayauriya and saw it whistling past point. Take note though that my off drive is real vicious.
What kind of bowling I find hard to face?
Well , spin is cake for me. Medium pacers makes me eyes light up ready to smack them all over the park. Well , bowlers bowling wide of the crease and away swinging it. They get me in real trouble but fortunately I've only nicked them once .
How do you think I can play the pull/hook shot better RHB and to combat the swingers from wide of the crease ?
------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 6:59am
Playing the Pull/Hook shot better, hmm, I think it would always be better to be in position just before the bowler releases. To combat the swingers, maybe you should try moving across alot more.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 August 2006 at 3:57pm
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Originally posted by RHB
To combat the swingers, maybe you should try moving across alot more. |
And then when they shape it back in I am in trouble.... I don't think so but I will find a way. I think I will do like lara and play that slashing square drive or the west indians trade mark backfoot drive !
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