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Topic: Batting in the nets
Posted By: TCA123
Subject: Batting in the nets
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 1:56pm

Firstly, sorry if there is a topic like this

Just thought it would be interested to see how other players view their time in the nets. Whats your take on net practice?

Is it a time to experiment with new shots?
To practice shots your already accomplished at to refine technique?
Try shots/techniques you would never attempt in a match - like a reverse sweep for many people?
To have fun generally?
To focus on one particular shot untill you can play it consistantly?

Now no doubt one could say all of the above but in reality i've seen many players view their time in the nets differently and have different goals they want to achieve from a session. How do you treat your net time?

The above is from a strictly batting point of view.




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Posted By: Rafay
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 2:32pm
I'm a bowler and I usually bat lower down the order so I'm trying to get a good defensive technique right now. I try to defend most of the balls I face. I can play fast like most tailenders, going for the big hits, but I'm woring on my technique in the nets now so I can bat higher up the order consistently. 


Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 2:42pm
i find most net sessions are simply making sure you improve the technique of the shots, and the shot selection, but some net sessions you can try new shots, such as reverse sweep, come down wicket, new trigger movements etc as it dont matter if you get out!

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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 2:46pm

recently I've been working specifically on my cover drive and straight drive because i hit across the line.

But me and my mates compete for wickets as we're all all-rounders. We play whoever gets the most wickets wins. So the idea is to hit some shots but value your wicket. It's a very good system.

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The Batsmen is obviously there to play shots and practice but at the same time, not be stupid and get out. We count our wickets and every one is important. We all bat the same amount of time. We find this system encourages the batsmen to play sensibly and value their wicket, but also encourage the bowlers to try harder, practising variation amongst wicket taking balls.

Realistically catchable edges are given out, LBWs are decided by appealing to the other bowlers, who then act as an umpire and bowled..well is bowled  Great fun and fantastic practice



Posted By: phoenix
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 3:01am
Throwdowns or a bowling machine are a better way of working on 1 particular shot or weakness, you need the repetative nature of these to get the trigger movements to become automatic. In the nets you should train as you play, treating each ball on it's merits and really still try to value your wicket, I always offer any a free beer after training to any bowler who takes my wicket, it really makes you concentrate. I dont know about letting bowlers judge lbw's though, most have a hard enough time getting their boot laces done up.


Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 5:11pm
I mostly go to the nets to have fun, but sometimes I work on my technique.

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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:24pm
the bowlers i find are honest about LBWs...In the end it's in the interest of practice. Plus we don't want the batsmen to have silly let offs!


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 7:54am
I work on playing through the off side off the front foot mainly, just pushing it through for singles to get better batsmen on strike.


Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 8:40pm
I mainly try and play straight because in the twenty over format my age group plays, i become to obsessed with scoring quickly and end up abadoning technique. Something i need to be shot for


Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 11:22pm
practice bilding an innings.
Start off with a few blocks till your eye is in, then the proper checked strokes, then full blooded strokes and finally the slogs.

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Posted By: frazer
Date Posted: 14 August 2006 at 8:45pm
i go in the nets to just practice on anything bad from the last game but mostly to have fun


Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 7:29am

I practice leaving the ball as much as I can in the nets.



Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 8:33am
Originally posted by UKKiwi

I practice leaving the ball as much as I can in the nets.



That's not improving technique...


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Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 8:42am

oh but my techniques are fine :)



Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 10:25am
Originally posted by UKKiwi

oh but my techniques are fine :)



No ones technique is fine, you should always be looking to improve on it and make it flawless.


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Posted By: phoenix
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by UKKiwi

oh but my techniques are fine :)



No ones technique is fine, you should always be looking to improve on it and make it flawless.
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I suggest most people playing at a fairly high level have techniques that are fine and maybe the flaw in his technique is ball leaving so that is why he practices it. I also believe that there is no perfect technique, look at all  the modern batsman, all have flaws. It's about producing runs, I have seen many batsman that look very pretty but do not produce runs. I think the key to working on your game is videoing some of your nets, people can explain things all they want but until you see it for yourself you will rarley improve.



Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:05pm
Thanks for that, since I wasnt really in the mood to get into this ' no one's techniques are fine ' debate :)  Techniques from the old text book is one thing, but at the end of the day the best techniques are those who gets you the most runs, you can have all the techniques you want but if you are so preoccupied with them all the time it could be detrimental to your game out in the middle.  Coming back to the thread, yes, as an opener, I needed to practice leaving the ball more :)


Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:26pm
leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:39pm

I think people have a funny attitude about leaving balls in the nets though.  Bowlers think you are a pussy and others think you are a waste of a 15 minute batting time! My team mates are so used to me hitting anything absolutely necessary now, they know if they want me to play a shot they will have to bowl accurately.  At the end of the day we all benefit from it.



Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 7:43pm
I hate leaving balls in the nets. You get a few mins to bat so why waste it?

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 8:02pm
For me its all of the above chices. Since I'm a bowler and a no.10 batsman I try and improve my bowling and add more swing to it. When I bat, my coach gives a little less time for me than for others. I try my best to touch the ball with my bat. I'm not that bad, but my helmet was really bad so I couldn't really see the ball clearly. Then my technique is horrible when I play with my pads on and against a cricket ball. I not very used to it. Just as I was improving, I moved from the country last year. For one full year I never played any cricket then finally I found an area where there are net sessions and I'm going to start next week if it doesn't rain. Hopefully I can improve and become a very good allrounder.

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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 7:17am
Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.


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Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 10:09am
of course you are right, but knowing where your stumps are is extremely important for an opener, in one day or longer version of the game.


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 10:29am
Originally posted by UKKiwi

of course you are right, but knowing where your stumps are is extremely important for an opener, in one day or longer version of the game.


That's what taking guard is for. If you take guard on middle stump, then you will know where your leg stump, and off stump is, from there on, it's up to you to decide which shot to select. All I'm saying though, is you should be looking to score very quickly in one day cricket. Not looking to leave deliveries.


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Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 10:51am

Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.
I play in 48 over matches, so there is still plenty of time to leave good balls, especially early on in my innings!



Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 11:48am
Originally posted by henjam

Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.
I play in 48 over matches, so there is still plenty of time to leave good balls, especially early on in my innings!



Well, I guess it also depends on the batsman. I'm a batsman who likes to be aggressive right from the start, and if I'm bowled a delivery which has width, I like to take advantage of it.


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Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 11:57am
Yes i tend to play a shot at quite a wide deliver, but you i am taling about agood length ball just outside the off stup, a ball that a scoring shot cannot be played to!!


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:13am
Originally posted by henjam

Yes i tend to play a shot at quite a wide deliver, but you i am taling about agood length ball just outside the off stup, a ball that a scoring shot cannot be played to!!


A scoring shot can be played to any delivery, except a yorker.



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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.


Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:38am
Ok a ball that involves risk and could cause losing your wicket if an attacking shot is played at


Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 1:26pm
I play at almost everything in the nets. Unless i'm there all day which i do all the time. If i have a long net i will leave deliveries and spend ages practising defence. But also shots like the paddle sweep and the reverse sweep which i wouldn't waste my time with in a shorter net.

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Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 2:17pm
Just curious RightHandBat, whats your strike rate(i would be surprised if it wasnt something like 200% since you sound like you play at just about everyball!:) ) and whats your batting average in the last few seasons?


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 19 August 2006 at 2:12am
Originally posted by UKKiwi

Just curious RightHandBat, whats your strike rate(i would be surprised if it wasnt something like 200% since you sound like you play at just about everyball!:) ) and whats your batting average in the last few seasons?


Strike Rate is just under 100 and last season batting average was 40.16 with a topscore of 108.

I do like to concentrate on every ball bowled to the other batsman aswell, I picture myself playing to that ball and what shot I would choose to play against it.



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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.


Posted By: JBatLC
Date Posted: 21 August 2006 at 8:37pm
I prefer with 2 people on a proper pitch. Sure it means more running but you get a better understanding of what shot does what. and what will get you out.


Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 09 September 2006 at 6:32am
I just try to find the middle of the bat.


Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:33pm
Sometimes we get the batsman to bat as if they must score every ball. Helps bowlers to bowl better in the later overs and the batsman to add runs at the end.

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Posted By: cheech
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 8:40am
well, my net batting sessions are pretty short, as we have 16 players in our team, and only 2 nets, and like 2 hours of practice (about third is fielding).

i tend to practice my defense shots, cos i know im weak when the ball nibbles from offstump back and forth. I practice my backward defense, and get people for throwdowns for my forward defense. I don' tend to think about scoring, its just wonderful having the feeling of playing a backward defense in the middle of the bat and watching the ball roll back to the bowler.


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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 28 September 2006 at 5:50pm
I work on cover drives, straight drives, on drives and cutting, the most difficult to play, people who slog and have fun at the nets are stupid.

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Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 3:06am
70_degree_spin, people who slog are not stupid. For some of them its their natural game. For some people they want to relieve stress. Im sure after 1 month of not playing cricket whic has happened to many of you, you just want to go back at get the feel for hitting. My feeling is always wanting to smash.im not complaining about anythin, but if it werent for slogging in the nets where whould big hitters be today?

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Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 10:53am
In the nets i pretty much just leave and defend since i take about half an hour to get my 'eye in'... and we only bat for 15 mins


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 11:03am
Originally posted by UKKiwi

I practice leaving the ball as much as I can in the nets.



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Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 2:46pm

I just practiced glides, flicks and drop and run shots off faster men, and when they bowled up to me used to throw the kitchen sink at it. Most of them sails over the boundry straight, when they are up to me. Short balls I just try to defend my head being smashed

When spinners are on (horror of horror only three of them in a squad of 40 for the university excluding myself) down the track, inside out over extra cover was my favorite shot. Unfortunately one of them was a Derek Underwood type left arm spinner (6' 3" in height) who was firing it in. Others also did not know how to flight it (i was the only one who threw it up over the eye line of batsmen). SO did not have much opportunities to play it.

Batting in nets was not fun for me, because every fast bowler targeted me to test their bouncers, but never tested their yorkers on me



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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 8:17pm
There's this bowler at my school who just bowls bouncers. Needless to say he hardly takes any wickets.

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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 9:51pm

Originally posted by 70_degree_spin

There's this bowler at my school who just bowls bouncers. Needless to say he hardly takes any wickets.

I went to this club training session to see if i felt like joining them. Every bowler bowled a bouncer. Thats all they did. They only wanted to hit the batsman. Needless to say i thought they were &"("! and left.



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