why do i keep bowling so short?
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Topic: why do i keep bowling so short?
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Subject: why do i keep bowling so short?
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 6:46am
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Hi all, i am a leg spin bowler who gets good spin and many variations. But i have 1 big problem,i keep pitching the ball too short. As everyone knows, all spinners get punished severly if the bowl too short,no matter how much spin they get.I tried taking a side on action an releasing the ball a bit earlier but that didn't work either.[well it worked when i released the ball earlier but i ended up bowling full toses] Any tips? thanks
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 6:49am
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just keep practising mate nothing else can help you ------------- |
Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 11:51am
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it could be your action, i had this problem, so dont stop trying to rip the ball, you always need to be able to spin it, but you need to make sure you get up on you front leg and have that leg straight, kumble is a good example of this ------------- boo ha ha! |
Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 1:47pm
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Depends on wear your holding the ball, do you put your fingers closer to the inner stitching or the outer stitching. ------------- Cricket watcher but tennis player :) |
Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 2:15pm
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Your follow through is no good. Go and see a good coach, not just an average club coach who doesn't know what the heck he's talking about. ------------- CCC-Carcassonne Cricket Club Support us, then play us!!!Second hand equipment etc highly welcomed!!! |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 3:30pm
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No idea how to help apart from practice in the nets with a good coach. ------------- |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 10:01pm
| I bowl off spin and i find that just generally practice helps keep my bowling consistent. I have been to the nets 5 times in 4 days. I feel like i can bowl in my sleep now |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 5:36am
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k thanks guys, So do you all suggest that i should change my run up and grip?Well as for practice,i practise 2 hours every day on my bowling and batting cheers and once again thanks, Shane Warnabee
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 8:37pm
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I focus on when i release the ball carefully. Bowling too short is often caused by trying to hard and dragging it down or by a technical fault of simply holding the ball too long. I often pull the ball short when attempting my doosra, which is a front on legspinner which i disguise. I suppose this is similar to your problems with leg spin. Try to release the ball nice and high and give it some air. |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 6:50am
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K thanks TCA123 i will ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 6:36pm
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Maybe if you take a longer run-up, to give your more energy when you release it. ------------- |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 12:18am
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You're dragging it down. If you get a cricket ball and just practise the normal legbreak wrist action, you will see the ball goes 'up', this is to give the ball some flight but you must make sure your arm is in the correct position, not too high, not too low.
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 12:38am
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make sure you have rhythm in the run up and get through the crease, i.e get high and over that front leg, having some momentum will help in the accuracy ------------- boo ha ha! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 12:48pm
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Remember as a spinner, your body pivoting generate the flight and increased turn so remember to get through the crease over the front leg as crick said. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: ozzie001
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 10:35am
| I bowl medium pace Sled but whenever I find myself picthing the ball short if find if I concentrate on keeping my leading arm (left in my case because I am a right arm bowler) high it really helps me in keeping the ball pitched up. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 20 July 2006 at 9:22pm
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still it can't help , spin and medium pace is different. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: headintheclouds
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 12:00pm
| Apart from all the other things said, try to keep yourself relaxed while bowling, not tensing your wrist body so much that you forget the other important pieces of the action like the leading arm, the run up, the pivot and follow through. Also, when you start going round arm more and more or when you start bowling short, you might want to remember to throw the ball up, like shane himself says in the cricket show video. Basically, this might lead you to keep your bowling arm a tad higher, and also bringing the leading arm into the equation a little more. If you are trying to rip it a lot or trying to bowl fat and rip it too much, you might end up bowling short. Mate, honestly, it will come down to practice, and correcting the things slowly and getting the stuff you are doing right into muscle memory. Keep at it. |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:53pm
Very wise and valuable comments, I must say. There is the simple process called identify the problem, analyze it and work out the remedial plan. Why do you fail to find the right length for your deliveries? Among other things, it might be late release of the ball and/or improper follow through. Try to release the ball with proper timing with a proper follow through and as many other members said, practice makes a man perfect. Cheers! ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 3:47pm
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Your trying too hard mate,Try bowling accurately first and then practice spinning with accuracy ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:13pm
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I'm not a spinner and I know nothing about spinning, so sorry I can't help. ------------- |
Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:38pm
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Then what was the point in that post ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:43pm
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Thats what even I was wondering after I posted it. I wasn't in my right senses. ------------- |
Posted By: headintheclouds
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 7:36am
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One thing I would like to add is that it is possible to get very good turn starting with a not-so-tight/tense grip too. Without trying to rip it so much that you are squeezing the ball for dear life, you will get good turn - just look at the bbc/ninemsn videos of terry jenner/ warne. At 50, Jenner still turns the ball with a 2 step action. So, by replacing the extra effort that you put into turning it yards with good technique, you will do so much better. The thing is that turning the ball with good technique is more easily repeatable than the ripping all or nothing magic ball that you have control over. I am not going to tell you that spin is not important at all, coz' that aint just true. Being able to spin, turn and zip it is the very reason why you are a leg-spinner, instead of a medium paced trundler. But the path to getting there is a step-by-step process, just like learning to cycle, or to swim or a host of other things. Surely you couldn't cycle without holding the handlebars on your 1st week on the ride!! Likewise, you may be able to turn the ball flat square once in 5 balls of trying to do so, but then it's not worth it with those kind of odds. The way to getting people relaxed at doing something is by repetition so that they have the confidence of having done it before. Hundreds of people bowl leg-spin (lesser than other disciplines, sure), so there's no reason why you can't either. We don't know what your problem is but you might want to be able to bowl a stock ball that keeps things tight which is bowled with a relaxed action with lesser turn, and slowly as you get more comfortable with the stock ball, you can put a little bit more rip into the stock ball. As far as practical advice goes, tape yourself if necessary and look at it. Play/bowl/practice with other leg-spinners, watch them and see what they do different, and chat with your wicket-keeper and other experienced bowlers once in a while - they might spot things like lack of rhythm, since some things are the same for all bowlers.Best of luck. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 6:09pm
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Hey Headintheclouds. Do you want to be my leg brak counseller. Just Kidding. Anyways , all of you words was worth the read. I like your 2 posts so far and it helped me a bit. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 August 2006 at 10:41pm
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hello shane warne wanabe i bowl leg spin and a blistering googley but i have one problem my side hurts due to bowling on thing tht could helf u is if u kepp your bodie straigh and bowl don't lean forward ------------- |
Posted By: Phung
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:23pm
| mate i have the exact same problem. my coach tells me that my problem is that i don't release the ball high enough. |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 3:24pm
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speaking as a quick, i have the same problem sometimes and its usually when i change my action very slightly, because im trying to bowl an inswinger (my stock ball is away) or to bowl quicker. Possibly the same might apply to spinners, i dont know because spinning's for pussies EDIT Also, how old are you? Because it takes a long long time and a lot of experience to develop the art of wrist-spin. Its well documented that even the best wrist-spinners sometimes get slapped around (apart from you-know-who but hes an anomaly...) and that young ones have a very hard time while learning the trade. In fact, its thought that a large part of the reason English cricket doesnt produce leg-spinners is that captains dont give them the chances to develop as bowlers, by taking them off as soon as they get slapped around ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:29pm
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I didn't read all the replies, so someone might have suggested this already, but try and not to hold the ball too tight. I know sometimes when trying to get alot of revs/spin on the ball you hold it too tight and then the ball releases out of ur had a lil late and ends up being short. Just my 2 cents.. |
Posted By: Ian.Canaway
Date Posted: 09 October 2006 at 9:12pm
Top Cat makes a valid point above. Without actually seeing how you bowl it's very difficult (impossible) to tell you where you're going wrong. There's been alot of good ideas posted in terms of what you might be doing wrong or what might be the cause, however rather than over analysing what 'might' be wrong with your technique you may be better focusing on achieving your goal of a better consistency - stopping bowling that short delivery. Try this drill (this will work for any type of bowler who wants to improve bowling accuracy, in terms of line and length). Simply mark out on the wicket with chalk/paint/cones/etc the area where you want to pitch the ball that represents a good line and length, so this will vary slight depending on what you're bowling. Practice bowling it into this zone/area until you can pitch the ball into it consistently 6 balls in a row and then practice again. If you want to make it harder gradually reduce the size of the zone as you get better. This is a great drill to help you focus on improving your consistency and accuracy, and it's really quick and easy to set up and use. ------------- For Cricket Batting and Bowling Tips Visit: => http://www.cricketsecrets.com - http://www.cricketsecrets.com |
Posted By: SYEDADNAN
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:43pm
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JUST DONOT BOWL SHORT AND KEEP GRIP A LIGHT NOT TIGHT ------------- SPORTSMAN SPIRIT/LEFT HANDED BATSMAN -RIGHT HANDED BOWLER - OCCASSIONAL WK |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 7:15pm
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Stay tall at the crease. That will get it through and up more. ------------- |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 3:54pm
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thanks guys i'll try that ------------- What goes around comes around! |