becoming a faster bowler
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Topic: becoming a faster bowler
Posted By: matthewthorn
Subject: becoming a faster bowler
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 12:34am
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hi at the moment i am a standard medium pace bowler.. i am 16 years of age, but i feel if i want to become good enough to represent my first team (i play for a first division welsh team) i need to become quicker.. could anybody help me by telling me what areas of the body to strengthen , and what excersies to strengthen those areas, also if there are any other ways( eg, practices, techniques) to get me bowling quicker..
thanks very much ..
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 6:34am
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I think you'd need lots of Iron and milk. You could also trying finding the suitable action to help you bowl a bit quicker.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 5:39pm
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As a fast bowler , You need to strenghten the arms and chest. Try doing push ups to start off with and then you can go to the gym. Jogging builds the muscles as well and swimming , it strenghtens all over the body. Go to the thread strenghtening the body with excersise for more tips. Also , try bowling with a quick action to give more pace. Remember , speed is measured at the point of release so the quicker you release the ball the quicker it is. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Middle It!
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 9:01pm
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If you get height by keeping your back leg straight and almost standing up completely when you bowl you will find that you will get a lot more pace. I know I did. by the way this info came from a coach at the Oval. ------------- I didn't know Salix made fishing rods!!!!!!! |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 05 August 2006 at 12:37am
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Thats good. I am a fast bowler and this thread has helped me quite a bit. Keep going guys. ------------- |
Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 05 August 2006 at 1:16am
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whilst strength is important, i think rhythm and flexibility are more improtant, if you look at most the fast bowlers today, only simon jones and brett lee and shoiab have alot of strength behind them, but harmi, ntini, steyn, mgrath, flintoff etc all use rhythm, basically without the rhythm, the strength isnot goin to help much! ------------- boo ha ha! |
Posted By: Ashley
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:29pm
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Hiya, im mainly a batsman but do bowl right arm medium and have had some success bowling like this but, i am very keen to become a genuine fast bowler. I have an 11 pace run-up but it doesn't really generate alot of pace for me, but i do not sprit it, and i don't really follow through alot, but i don't feel the need to with the pace at which im bowling and my pace doesn't make me follow through. Can i get some help on bowling faster, including everything from my run up to my action, and i will not hesitate to change my action for that extra pace. when i say i bowl medium pace, i am 15 and bowl at around 60 mph. thanks alot, Ashley |
Posted By: UKKiwi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 5:34pm
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Have a look at this mate, http://www.cricketnz.co.nz/page61.htm - http://www.cricketnz.co.nz/page61.htm |
Posted By: Burner
Date Posted: 20 August 2006 at 11:45am
| Ashley - Make sure you get access to a good coach this is very important in developing an efficient bowling technique and avoiding injury. You will need to develop your strength and fitness to maximise your pace. Remember though you should above all strive for accuracy and consistency. Control and accuracy are much more important than an extra few mph. |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 15 September 2006 at 3:28am
| You need to have upper body strength but it's no good being fast if you can't bowl accuratly |
Posted By: Alfie103
Date Posted: 02 October 2006 at 9:14pm
| heya everyone, just starting experimenting with fast bowling after becoming frustrated with off-spin (not being able to turn it Very funny). Just can't seem to be very accurate. Any tips would be appreicated as i am very inexperienced. |
Posted By: barfbag
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:16am
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:26am
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MATTHEW: youre only 16, youll probably get quite a bit faster naturally over the next 3-4 years anyway. Apart from that, id say the key is in your action much more than in strenghthening muscle groups - if you can, talk to a qualified coach about the mechanics of your particular action. You could always try studying the actions of fast bowlers and comparing it to yours (if you can get someone to video you bowling from different angles this will be very useful), for example if you watch Shoaib Akhtar youll see how much he bends his back just as he comes in to his delivery stride. In fact, Shaoib doesnt just bend his back he seems to bend everything back as far as it will go (back, shoulder, elbow, wrist) and then snap it all forward at once ASHLEY: 11 paces doesnt sound like enough to generate genuine pace, you should try encreasing it HOWEVER its important to keep your rhythm. You must have a settled runup and action which is the same every time or youll never get the pace you want, or any accuracy. Every bowlers different, but i personally think the best way to achieve speed is to star fairly slow and accelerate into my runup, so i hit full speed as i go into my delivary stride, slam my front foot down hard (this is key) and put everything ive got into pushing my arm through. I also like to "drive up" into my delivery stride, ie i start my run up slightly crouched and straighten as i get momentum ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: Alfie103
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:00pm
| cheers barfbag |
Posted By: Alfie103
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:00pm
What speed do you think you need to bowl to take wickets. at a village cricket standard of course 
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:17pm
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village cricket, top man! I grew up with village cricket, before my diŁk Whittington-style move to The Big Smoke (im not mayor yet, but give it time...). Whereabouts in the country are you playing? As regards your question, i have no idea about relating speed to an MPH measurement - ive never been measured and never seen anyone measured. Anything considered genuinely quick at decent club level will take wickets at village green standard, my mate took shedloads this year because he played below his own standard for his village team. From my experience of village cricket the technical skill of most batsmen is fairly limited and 90% of batsmen will have at least one glaring deficiency. My advice is to bowl straight, think about a batsmans weakness and bowl at it consistently - at that level, especially in short (40-over) games, many more batsmen get themselves out than are beaten by a jaffer. If you think about it, a frustratingly large portion of wickets at that standard on those types of pitches are taken by nothing-bowlers, slow-medium seamers who do a tiny bit off the pitch and bowl on a spot all day, because batsmen try to hit them and cant - maybe you want to be that bowler, if you can deal with the soul-destroying boredom of being that type of bowler...i know i couldn't! Also, if you commit to that then your chances of stepping up a level and being successful are very limited ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: Alfie103
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 4:44pm
I am playing in Essex, around the Chelmsford area, playing one of the lowest leagues  . I used to live in London myself but moved out couple of years ago. That is why i haven't had a lot of cricketing experience. I would like to move up to play better standard of cricket and learn to swing the ball and bowl at about 70mph at least. any tips again?
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:19pm
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Regarding speed, ive written what i think earlier in this post so i cant be fagged to write it again! What ive described is how i bowl, and im pretty fast. The key to swing is in two areas, the action and the wrist position. Basically, most people who swing the ball have a natural action that helps swing one way, not many people can swing equally both ways. In general a more side-on action swings away and a more front-on one swings in, however this is not always the case as it depends on the peculiarities of a given bowler. I think more important to swing is the wrist position. First of all, for either type of swing, the wrist should be cocked and FIRM, and its absolutely crucial that the seam is straight (try bowling in nets with one of those balls thats half red and half white to check your seam position...) When it comes to bowling in- or out-swingers, the slightest change in your wrist position makes all the difference. It is really hard to describe how without showing you but ill do my best! The basic principle, if this makes any sense, is for your fingers to FOLLOW THE DIRECTION YOURE HOPING THE BALL TO SWING as you release it, whilst keeping the seam straight (this doesnt mean the seam has to be vertical just that it doesnt wobble) So, hold up your wrist, cocked, it would be when you bowl. Assuming youre a right-handed bowler, tilting your hand to the LEFT so the seam is at a slight angle (whilst keeping the wrist firmly locked) gives you the position for an INSWINGER while tilting to the right is the position for an outswinger. You may well find that, as long as you cock your wrist, you bowl one type of delivery naturally without thinknig about this, if so work on that first and make it your stock ball. Once youre comfortable with that, you might want to work on changing the wrist position every now and then as a surprise delivary - ive always bowled outswing, but just at the end of last season i started to develop an inswinger after ten years of not being able to, simple because i changed my wrist position by probably not more than an inch I hope this made some sense to you, i know i rambled a bit! If you like ill try and get some photos up to show what i mean, but really the best thing you can do is to have a couple of sessions with a good coach if youre lucky enough to know one and he will be able to show you ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: SYEDADNAN
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 3:49pm
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I want to bowl faster, Iam 5ft 5" at the age of 36, Iam left handed stylish batsman who can play any kind of bowling specially fast bowling and always score good runs mush faster than any of my team mate and regtarded as good batsman , but I like to be fast bowler too.I can bowl anywhere on the pitch but not fast the bowl gets slower when it drops out of my hands. Please advise what to do?
------------- SPORTSMAN SPIRIT/LEFT HANDED BATSMAN -RIGHT HANDED BOWLER - OCCASSIONAL WK |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:01pm
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What do spinners need? Just strong wrists and shoulders? Sorry if this is a bit off the beat and track, I didn't exactly want to make a new thread!  ------------- |
Posted By: beast
Date Posted: 23 November 2006 at 7:43pm
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hi. im 14 years and i am a gentle medium pace bowler andi want to be an allrounder. any tips for genarating more pace? do you run in faster or you do something esle when you are trying to bowl that little bit faster?
any tips would be a great help.
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Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 1:42am
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I see kids with a 20 m run up where they sprint all the way. I have a measured 17 step run up and have had since I was 14. For 14 years i have nown it and sometimes to worry the batsman, run in with my eyes shut I know it so well. Summation of forces is the key to bowling fast. Building to a point so when you release the ball your body explodes. pitter patter, jog, momentum, stride, last two steps flat out to delivery stride and always bend your back. I was taught to try and bury the ball into the pitch. For a while my swing left me because I was trying to hit the pitch so hard. Half a season and I was back bowling my best but quicker. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: EasyGoing
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 11:11am
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I want to get good at pace bowling. This is mainly because I cant spin the ball :p not alot anyway. I was just wondering whats the best tactic to use when bowling as a pace bowler. Should I make the ball bounce up, go for yorkers or what?
Cheers.
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 1:48pm
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Don't go for yorkers and bouncers when you start, focus on line and length, only use variations like yorkers when you have got your line and length sorted. ------------- |
Posted By: robbie
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 7:52pm
| thats what i do just try to bowl line and length and wen u get more into it you can vary it like bowling bouncers but i never bowl bouncers anyway |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 11:48pm
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If you can keep the line tight then sooner or later the batsmen will
make a mistake. slight variations in pace, length and ect is a good way
to start to add a bit of variety and after that if your confident you
can get the ball to cut about a bit which assuming you hit the spot
will cause hell for thats batsmen, its hugely underated.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 10:28am
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Yes but this begs the question, how can u tell how fast your actually bowling??? I'm no maths genius so does anyone know how you can calculate your speed using a stop watch and tape measure??
------------- Cricket watcher but tennis player :) |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 27 January 2007 at 6:14pm
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Get someone to stop watch you bowling and you get 45 and divide the time it took so 45 / 0.8 = 56mph To break the 100mph mark you have to get the ball from crease to crease in 0.45 seconds. ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 11:19am
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That won't be comparable to the speeds you see on TV though, since that is measured out the hand, measured over 22 yards it will slow down considerably, especially off the pitch.
------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 2:36pm
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Thats true but you can time it on TV as well to compare it, wont be as accurate on TV but as they are bowling faster so its harder to time but you can work it out close enough.
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Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 1:03am
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It would be easier to time yourself with a camera with a milisecond timer. Then if u put it on computer get an animation shop or go to Windows Movie Maker and pik u the exact time of ball release and the time it takes to reach the other end of the pitch
I did that the other day and I was shocked at how slowly I was bowling!!!!I better get my ass moving haha ------------- Cricket watcher but tennis player :) |
Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 7:45pm
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Your pectoral (chest) muscles do most of the work, but they work against the back muscles so don't neglect your lats. Also, your shoulder takes a lot of hammer, so possibly the rotator cuff muscles might need building up, and this will help you stop getting a sore shoulder throwing in hard and flat, too.
Push ups will strengthen your chest, wide-grip pull-ups will really work your back. And don't forget to do some sit ups and maybe oblique twists to keep your abs tight.
But you'll get more speed making sure your action is good. At 16, you're still growing and will gain strength naturally anyway. ------------- I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling! |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 7:57pm
And we all know where our rotator cuff muscles are?  ------------- |
Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 11 February 2007 at 8:42pm
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Well shoulder was a bit of a giveaway. They're what hold the shoulder joint together, basically. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotator_cuff - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotator_cuff ------------- I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling! |
Posted By: L0rd_Aryan
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:59am
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apparently, its the shoulder strength , long run-up and balanced follow-up
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 8:31am
Wasim Akram didn't have a long runup, but generated quite abit of pace. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:26am
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Yep , Akram's pace came from his incredibly fast arm.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:43pm
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And that's why I do tell people that a quick arm action will give you pace! Malcolm Marshall is another example. An incredibly fast action! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:58pm
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my runup is slow and my arm action is slow, thats probably why people tell me "you bowl like 2mph but your offcutter moves a foot." maybe I should give up and become a spinner =p ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: JANNI
Date Posted: 18 March 2007 at 9:47pm
my name is zubair im a fast/medium pace bowler, i have a good wicket taking average i play for newvic academy but before the season starts i would like to learn some new techniques on how to bowl quicker, i am around 5 ft 10/11 i weight 10.2 stones and i am at the age of 16 going to turn 17 this year, so if any one could help or wants to offer please do.. safe!
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Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 12:57pm
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As a PE teacher, I put many hours into a few of our guys and the summation of forces iis the key. A build up of momentum that can transpire many ways. Tait does it explosively whereas I love breaking down Lee for smooth rhythmic motion. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: lightning quick
Date Posted: 05 April 2007 at 6:25am
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I am 13 and 5 foot 11 and weigh 50 kg. i bowl around 115-120 km is this fast for my age? ------------- Northern Socials CC/ North Metro Rep Side, Carlton...Please finish better than 16th |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 05 April 2007 at 8:56am
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I would say that's quick for your age. Couple of years time you'll be a bit pacey. ------------- |
Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 06 April 2007 at 1:06am
| WHOA, thats very fast indeed. i am 16 the max i can bowl is 100 KM |
Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 06 April 2007 at 1:20pm
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Lightening Quick, that is serious smoke for your age. In the Melbourne District League some opening bowlers send them down 120-125. I sick comfortably around the 120-125 but in my level that is quick enough.
I have a very whippy action and my pace is through rhythm and a summation of forces. I practiced using a brick in the backyard and just going through my delivery stride. When I held the cricket ball it felt light as a feather and i was significantly quicker. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 06 April 2007 at 1:42pm
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I wondered why we never played with bricks. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: Northern_social
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:21pm
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Posted By: Northern_social
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:22pm
| by the way it's paul |
Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 5:22pm
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Well with a video camera and stop watch last year (or maybe the year before) I reckoned I was bowling about 67mph. With a Platypus speedball this spring (and a lot of fiddling about to get the ball to pitch on the length I'd set it for a couple of times) it came to about 112kph which is 70mph. Only a couple of the lads on the team bowl appreciably faster than me, but then again they're a couple of the fastest I've seen at our club level. ------------- I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling! |
Posted By: blaster17
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 6:04pm
| hey i have been reading through.. i am a fast bowler and thanks 2 "Rambo_123UK" "Kerm" and everyone else for the good tips |
Posted By: invador
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 12:56pm
| whats the minimum benchpress required to bowl genuine pace................ i read an article about Steffan Jones, Derbyshire's new Welsh player ,he is a genuine fast bowler,he has benchpress of 140 kgs and squat of 200 kgs....claims to be the strongest player in cricket( though i doubt with roy and haydos around). |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 12:58pm
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Pure strength itself isn't the most important factor in bowling fast, your action and your ability to carry momentum through your delivery stride is much more important.
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Posted By: harrowdrive
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 2:30pm
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So is explosive power which you can develop in loads of ways. http://www.harrowdrive.com/10-essential-cricket-strength-and-power-exercises/ - http://www.harrowdrive.com/10-essential-cricket-strength-and-power-exercises/ http://www.harrowdrive.com/10-principles-of-cricket-power/ - http://www.harrowdrive.com/10-principles-of-cricket-power/ http://www.harrowdrive.com/cricket-specific-plyometrics/ - http://www.harrowdrive.com/cricket-specific-plyometrics/ ------------- Play better cricket. Get tips from http://www.harrowdrive.com - www.harrowdrive.com |
Posted By: beasty
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 2:18pm
| hi. jus wanted to know if you bound is important?is it the higher you get the better? |
Posted By: allrounder1
Date Posted: 03 June 2007 at 12:37am
| im a pace bowler and im 17 i play 4 both my senior teams, i usually play 4 the 1st as a 2nd change bt open 4 the 2nds.. all u need to du is work on ur line and length and then once u hav that work on ur pace.. im 6 foot 1 and im nt big build but bowl around 70mph. if u watch simon jones he doesnt have a long run up or have a massive build like harmisan and shaun tait, he gets his pace from his shoulder which is ware i get myn from.work on bringin ur arm round quicker and quicker through ur spells and it will come over tym, u may have sum bad spells and sum good ones bt belive me they become always good in the end.. |
Posted By: ponting111
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 2:18am
| I agree with kerm, it is not about strength and athletisism but technique. A nice high jump and effectivly using your momentum are two key factors |
Posted By: armbowler
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 1:58am
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Posted By: revolutions
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 9:46pm
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If you want to be quick than sought your action out. Otherwise all the power you generate will be wasted. Get a good experienced bowler to take a look at it and see what he thinks, if possible ask a a coach.
With my new action I find I am bowling progressively quicker and I going to start worrying about strengthening my body.
( I find when i am relaxed i bowl quicker)
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Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 5:46pm
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the other day in the nets i tryed leaning back in the bound. if u lean back and then lean forward after u land continuing until after your folow through it can generate more power. it worked for me. also yes when u are relaxed you bowl quicker an better all round ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: Ali Malik
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 12:34pm
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i'm 14 and i bowl 120-130 kmph, sometimes more. Does your bowling get quicker as you get older, or do you have to do all these workouts? ------------- The worlds fastest bowler |
Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:10pm
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both.
probably more as u get older but doing the workouts will help slightly
depends wat ur build is at the moment. if ur a dweeb u probs do but at ur pace i wouldnt say u needed to do the workouts ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: bobby95861
Date Posted: 30 September 2007 at 12:41am
| im a slow-medium pace baller please i need help with my balling |
Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 01 October 2007 at 8:34pm
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make sure u are running at ur full pace when you hit the crease, have a long enough run up to build momentum. snap or flex your wrist though at the point of delivery. fast arm action.
there are many many ways to improve your pace but if u cant bowl any faster...bowl spin ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: legspinner102
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 6:43pm
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At your age, I would start going to the gym( completely you decsion) as this can stregthen your body enough to bowl faster. Further more, the more important factor of bowling faster is leverage.This basically means when your just about to bowl, and you land your front foot, you should keep it braced or locked and when you do plant you foot, think of a anchor, hammering to the ground. I think this advice should suffice. P.S Just ask your coach! ------------- |
Posted By: Jakey27
Date Posted: 25 October 2007 at 5:36pm
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hi, i am a fast bowler who is currently training with Yorkshire CCC first team, i have been clocked at 78mph but i really want to become quicker. the run-up is fine, delivery and follow through is fine, my coaches can only really offer me practice, but is there any advice you could offer me to hit that 80mph mark.
Thanks
Dave
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Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 27 October 2007 at 11:28am
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biomechanics.
i dont know how efficient your action is at the moment but i sugest reading "the fast bowlers bible" by ian pont
it realy helps
but if you cant get hold on it.
everything you do in your action is to transfer power to the bowling arm. you need a good chest drive. you need to pull your non bowling arm down very hard and use your hips to get more explosive power.
and the main thing.
always travel in straight lines. if you close off your action with your front foot or non bowling arm it will slow ou down.
and a straight run up
and just stay relaxed
------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: Jakey27
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 8:04pm
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thanks inswinger, thats really helpful
do u know which specific muscles i should work on to improve pace?
thanks
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 7:04pm
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Jakey, keep an upright body during run up and as much as possible when landing on the crease. A fast arm action does generate more pace but you have to make sure to warm up properly before doing that as you can hurt yourself.
Doing the maximum amount of push ups you can make a day can strengthen your muscles which can speed up your arm action which will make you gain pace.
Also, you can stiffen up your arm muscles just before you go into your bowling action which will make you put more into the delivery but i'm not too sure how much it will affect your accuracy but have a try at it, it's worth it if you're looking for more pace! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: bond21
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:02pm
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130 km/h at 13 is physically impossible unless you are an absolute genetic freak who is huge. If you really bowl 130 you should be playing top grade for your club and be in your state team for your age, if you have decent accuracy.
People come up with absolute nonsense numbers, oh hey billy i bowl around 130, yea i just guessed from watching mcgrath bowl on tv, im about the same speed.
Ever notice how the keeper doesnt look far back on tv then u go to a match and hes over half way to the boundary against fast bowling?
the perception of the TV angle being straight down the wicket gives you barely any sense of how fast the ball is actually travelling.
Dont bother telling people how fast you bowl until you get it checked by a speed gun, even then those things are dodgy as hell
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Posted By: Jakey27
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:40pm
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bond- is that directed at me?
im 18 by the way, if i didn't mention
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 31 October 2007 at 1:39am
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Don't know what he's on about but I've seen McGrath live from the stands and I can tell you, he's much faster off the pitch than those speed guns say! Mitchell Johnson on the other hand is bloody fast through the air! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 01 November 2007 at 9:55pm
chest, shoulders back, sides , legs. abs alot.
if u dont have acsess to a gym.
press ups
sit ups
pull ups
lunges
etc
also yeah...mcgrath probs makes it come fast off the pitch of the amount he hit the seam and i swear he can control the way it goes. thats darn hard. ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: bond21
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 6:37am
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the speed gun measures out of the hand....
Also any idiot can say he bowls 140 km/h
anyone can take a misguided guess.
If you say you bowl 130 without being tested i would bet you bowl around 90 km/h
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Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 16 November 2007 at 9:54am
| I always remember a mate of mine reckoned i was 120 (even though i knew i actually wasn't) but i actually clocked 113 which wasn't too far off i guess. |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 7:23am
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So back to topic. The runup is also an essential part of bowling quicker, a good runup will get you through the crease a lot better and will get you more pace.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:14pm
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yeh u need enough mementum to get out of the crease, need to be balanced and comfortable. tis rele important ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:44pm
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I've been bowling fairly quickly by my standards recently and I think
its mainly down to just being relaxed and not trying to overcomplicate
things as i'm bowling. I pretty much gave up on bowling quick,
previously I was straining every muscle in my body and trying various
different actions to try and get extra speed although now i'm bowling
faster then I was pretty much jogging to the crease and going through
the action. Admittedly I'm a pretty strong guy, spend quite alot of time in the gym so the strength is there, was obviously just counter productive for me to have been trying so hard. Lets hope that some accuracy comes with the pace in time for when nets start. ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:58pm
| Yea, straining to bowl fast is only counterproductive, as all that energy your expending to strain all your muscles is the energy you need to bowl faster for longer. I to have recently discovered the art of simplicity, rather then worrying about 'is my front arm high enough', 'is my run up straight' etc... i just think about running in between invisible 'tram lines' and keeping my whole action, including some of my follow through within the 'tram lines'. |
Posted By: inswinger
Date Posted: 19 December 2007 at 10:32pm
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right. my action is pretty good but my front knee is never straight. it used to be but it isn't anymore. im bowling faster because i am using much better biomechanics in my action but this has caused my front knee to be bent. would i be even faster if it wasnt? and how important to my bowling is it? ------------- RightFastMedium RightHandBat |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 19 December 2007 at 10:51pm
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Well, from what i understand, by not bracing your front knee straight all its really doing is making you not as 'tall', the ball is being released at a lower height, so less bounce etc, though i don't believe it really effects your pace. It could well be straining your knee ligaments extra too though i guess. |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 4:15am
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You should also remember that feeling "loose" when you bowl will help you bowl quicker too, if you run in looking really tight it looks really bad, but instead you should just run in forget about the runup and how you run in but just run in and bowl and the speed will come. Feeling loose and natural will also brace that front knee of yours without actually thinking about bracing it. I learnt that a few months ago but I'm still coming in abit tight. That day at training with grade cricketers a few months ago was the best, it really standed out to all my other ones, I was relaxed, loose, didn't care about anything ( ). Just ran in naturally and bowled naturally and I reckon I was bowling a lot quicker to my current pace then later that session I started thinking about my runup and I lost it and my knee wasn't bracing, and I was back to bowling a lot slower. With that quicker pace I was getting a lot more carry, more bounce, more pace, more everything and I reckon if I put more effort in the follow-through, it could've been abit quicker. Now, I'm slowly learning from the mistakes and gradually getting it back. My advice, don't overcomplicate it like I did. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: Jakey27
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 8:14pm
| What's it like in Australia? The pitches and conditions i mean. Are they quicker and bouncier? Do any of you recommend someone like me to play over there? |
Posted By: Jakey27
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 8:03pm
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Hi, thanks for the replies, the advice was gold dust, thanks. I was just wandering if any of you recommend Sprinting at 100m will benefit the run-up at all. And also would training Anaerobically benefit fast bowling? Thanks
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Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 07 January 2008 at 11:07am
It really depends on where you want to move to. Somewhere like Queensland and Perth would be perfect. Other than that, the bounce is average but it's definately quicker than a few other places arounds the world. |
Posted By: Alfie103
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 1:04pm
| just to say thanks for the help chin music, sorry bout the non-reply. i am at uni now where guys are a fair bit quicker and sometimes i can't even see it! but thanks anyway. |
Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 20 March 2008 at 4:38am
| Yeah Sreesanth's quite fast but he's small and skinny. |
Posted By: Niv!
Date Posted: 20 March 2008 at 7:54am
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Where did that come from? ------------- To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice the size it needs to be. |
Posted By: revolutions
Date Posted: 28 March 2008 at 6:19pm
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If you are an effective wicket taking bowler
than I would advice against changing your action in the persuit of speed,
because you are likely to lose the ability to swing or seam the ball
no one hear is likely to be Bret Lee so sacrificing movement for a few extra mph is stupid.
One pice of advice is make sure both the front arm and bowling arm rotate as far as possoble wothout causing discomfort. Your bowing hand should be pointing behind you in the follow through. Try and let your front foot hit the deck before your front arm comes down, this stops you from collapsing and losing momentum. Hold the ball as loosely as possible, this wont get you extra pace, but will help you relax and will make the ball carry further.
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Posted By: still not out
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 6:33pm
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to be honest its pretty much all in the action. i dont want to sound to up myself but im probably the quickest bowler in my pretty successful team and i just womble up to the wicket before i bowl. as an opposing batsman put it to his partner: "hes quicker than he looks"
i would say dont put to much effort into it since that can lead to bowling too short, but try to develop a nice flowing action and let that do all the work, all you need is good armspeed, and that doesnt neccesatily go hand in hand with pure grunt.
just my thoughts
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Posted By: freddy
Date Posted: 19 September 2010 at 11:36am
| I agree, your action has a lot to do with your pace, but its also your physical attributes which help too. A fast bowler with a good action could become a lot quicker if they were to train their strength and power with a conditioning program that is specific to fast bowling. |
Posted By: phil_nz
Date Posted: 08 March 2011 at 8:04am
| im in the same boat as you mate, im desperately trying too add speed too my bowling, i heard a rumor that to devolp arm speed which is a key component to bowling pace bowling with a tennis ball as hard as you can. don't know how true this is anyone got any ideas? |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 10 March 2011 at 12:01am
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Arm energy is very important for pace, just look at Kemar Roach. Hardly anything in the run up but a late burst of arm power propels the ball at a rapid pace! You got to have some strength up there in those forearms buddy. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: quickie1992
Date Posted: 03 July 2011 at 11:53pm
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You want to ignore what someone mentioned on the first page about keeping your back leg straight, You want to do the complete opposite, Drag it through along the floor for as long as possible.. (See my profile avatar with brett lee bowling, Notice how he drags his back leg. Also trying to bowl quicker using your arm will just result in spraying the ball legside, offside and having no real control. You get more power from your hips.
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Posted By: bhushangogad
Date Posted: 18 September 2011 at 11:58am
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Hi, to be a fast bowler. you need a strong shoulder & chest. your action is also very important. so you need to do 3-4 sets of 20 push ups or deeps every day. Further when you bowl in the nets, bowl medium pace n increase it very slowly and then see the miracles. |
Posted By: freddy
Date Posted: 22 October 2011 at 11:28am
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Three imporant aspects of bowling fast: 1. Fast twich muscle fibres are very important. Build up a good strength base, and then try exercises such as explosive push-ups, which stimulate your muscles to move quickly. Don't believe the myth that working out will make you too bulky to bowl fast. It is very hard to get too bulky with a balanced workout. 2. Flexibility is a must for quick bowlers. This allows the application of a force to the cricket ball over a longer range of motion, therefore allowing you to bowl faster. Flexibility in the shoulders and hips are key. 3. Technique is important for fast bowlers, as improving the mechanical effeciency of your action is a definate way to increase bowling speeds. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 24 October 2011 at 3:05pm
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4. Keep on bowling - you get stronger as a bowler that way. Look at Steven Finn, the guy is putting down real pace now. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: god of pace
Date Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:36am
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please help me ..... when i am bowling with new ball naturally ball is swinging out side of right handed batsman , in my second spell the ball will old than i am bowling ball is going in side of right handed batsmen i try ed to bowl out swinger but the ball is still going in swinger ..... what should i do please help..... |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 25 October 2011 at 4:36pm
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From what you're saying, its telling me with the new ball that you have the seam pointed to slips when bowling to a right hander. Naturally with the new ball, if the seam position is right, it will always swing, so that's why you're getting the out swing.
With the older ball, unless you're really good and conditions is good, you will not get to produce that away swing that you can get with the new ball. With that natural away swinger seam position, the ball can bite into the pitch and comeback into the right handers, which I think is happening to you. The harder you pull down on the ball, the more chances of it cutting into a right handed batsman this way.
My advice, you won't get swing with an older ball unless condition is right so stop worrying about doing it. Work on using reverse swing, convential swing is practically impossible when the shine goes and the sun is out. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |