The best Middle Order
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Topic: The best Middle Order
Posted By: inzamam329
Subject: The best Middle Order
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:05pm
| This is based on the last 18 months...for me its Pak's because they have had opening troubles and are always under pressure! |
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Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:11pm
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Pakistan have the best middle order in the world. I think this should be in "Cricket world ratings" but yes Pakistan have an extremely strong middle order to back up a pretty poor opening partnership. Younis Khan is an incredibly good batsman who plays beautiful shots on the offside and brings experience into the team. he is a great team player. Mohammad Yousuf is in such great form of late. He is producing many hundreds and he averages over 50 with the bat in world cricket, a brilliant legside player. Inzamam-ul-Haq is a brilliant captain and batsman. Despite his dreadful running between the wickets and his ability to run his teammates out, he can really cause teams problems. A very experienced middle order that have got Pakistan out of many awkward situations. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:10pm
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Obviously Pakistan,after having opening problems our middle order handles the situation very well. ------------- blaa blaa blaa |
Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 3:40pm
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Probably India as you see that they are the ones with best averages.
(Laxman, Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Dhoni) |
Posted By: Ck_spin
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 4:29pm
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pakistan has some steady players. ------------- |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 10:29pm
Tendulkar is opener, Mohammad Kaif and Suresh Raina sometimes. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 10:42pm
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Depends. India: Dravid, Yuvraj, Raina, Kaif, Dhoni. Pathan depending on where he bats.
Pakistan: Younis, Yousuf, Inzamam, Razzaq. Akmal depending on where he bats. EQUAL So I didn't vote. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:55am
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On current form it has to be Pakistan. Younis Khan , Mahammad Yousef and Inzamam are three seriously good players with tremendous experience.
They have one thing in common , when they get to a hundred it usually turns into a BIG one! They all bat well together , but score in diffent areas. Setting fields for them is a nightmare and they rotate the strike so well - the fielding side must be tired after 4-5 hours of these guys! (just ask the English!) Nothing wrong with Australia , India or England either , but the Pakistani dynamic trio sneak it for me. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 6:59am
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Cook ,Pietersen ,Collingwood and Bell are not too bad .India's is a bit shaky at the moment .Pakistan's is probably the best . ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 7:07am
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By how many batsman in the middle order from 3-7,3-5 or 3-8? I personally think it's Australia in ODI's just look at there middle order in Ricky Ponting,Damien Martyn,Andrew Symonds,Michael Clarke & Michael Hussey. For tests it's a tight one between Pakistan,Australia,England & India.I can't decide if I have to then probably Australia again there middle order is what makes them make big totals. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: Sureshot
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 3:19pm
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I'd say 3-5 6 and 7 are normally all rounder spots. |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 4:19pm
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Maybe it is Pakistan, but it looks like India are going to do well in the Tri-Series. Dravid, Yuvrah, Dhoni, and Kaif had played well in a practice match. Dravid made 50 with 10 fours, but had to retire to make way for Yuvraj, Dhoni, and surprisingly Sehwag(coming down the order). Yuvraj made an elegant 41. Dhoni made 32 of 30 balls and Sehwag made 26 of 24 same as Tendulkar.They ended up making 242 in 40 overs. Sthe batsman proved good, but the bowlers did not.
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/story/255974.h tml Go there to read the full story. ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 08 August 2006 at 4:45pm
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I vote for Sri Lanka. After long thinking I have realised that theor middle order is one of the best. Jayawardene is becoming like a Dravid(He is still my biggest rival. I ahte to see him score runs and especially against India). Sangakara is very good, Dilshan, Maharoof can be good support in the end. If Murlitaran starts firing, he also is good. 3-5 wise I think Jayawardene, Sangakara, and Dilshan. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 09 August 2006 at 1:51pm
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Why dosen't anyone think it's Australia there middle order is a winning combination it's the reason there the best team in the world. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 09 August 2006 at 9:15pm
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Pakistan bat so far down its just amazing. Afridi as low as 8 i mean wow. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 6:46am
It's ONE of the reasons AK. Warne and McGrath are the MAIN reason though - you don't win test matches via the batsmen. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 1:50pm
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Yup. Inthe 2003 WC, they were all out for a low total almost everytime. It was their bowlers who saved them. ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 1:50pm
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How come no one's saying Sri Lanka. You all know what they are capable of. They showed against England and against Souht Africa. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 2:03pm
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Since when did Australia keep getting out for low scores in that world cup they kept making pass 300 pretty much both there bowling and batting got them over the line. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 2:08pm
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No. Against new Zealand, England and many other teams ther always made 180-195. Once in a while they used to touch 200-210. Even against Namibia they made only 281. It was only against India and another team that they made 300 against. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 2:10pm
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281 is no where near classified as low in ODI cricket,I doubt they made 180-195 against alot of teams go check the scorecards in the 2003 world cup because im sure your wrong. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 10 August 2006 at 2:12pm
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They made scores between 180-213 atleast four times in the World Cup. Ask Sledger yourself. ------------- |
Posted By: lintonskippa
Date Posted: 11 August 2006 at 9:11am
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Simple! Younis Khan Mohammad Yousaf Inzamam-ul-Haq They should get 500 on the board ------------- If i had 3 wishes i would do 3 thing... exile mahmood and harmison, make geraint jones the best keeper in the universe and me the best leg spinner. what a lethal combination! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 11 August 2006 at 9:59am
It was a very low score they posted against England in Port Elizabeth AK - I was there! Something around 205 or so if I remember correctly. Lucky they had Andy Bichel and Michael Bevan to bail them out! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 11 August 2006 at 11:31am
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AK as much as i'd like to say australia's middle order (spots 3,4,5,6) in test matches is great, but it's not!!! Sure Ponting and Hussey are in great form, but we haven't had a cemented no.4 or no.6 since the ashes!!!! Pakistan & England have the 2 strongest on current form, with Cook, KP, Collingwood & Bell all in great touch for england, and Kahn, Yousuf & Inzy for pakistan. If i had to choose though i would take pakistans, they have 3 genuine match winners in positions 3,4,5 and that takes the cake for mine. The thing england has going for them though is the fact that KP, Cook & Bell are all young, and have long careers ahead of them!!
------------- 5-0 You Beauty!!!!! Thanks for the many fantastic memories Marto, Langer, Warney & Pidg |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 11 August 2006 at 1:56pm
Gosh Claps , you've a lovely way of making an ole man happy!! I see a nice weekend ahead now!!  ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 11:21am
England for me even eithout Flintoff it's still better than Pakistan's (just ) I particularly like it with Collingwood in breaking up Pietersen and Freddy (when he plays) pyrotechnics------------- The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 5:57pm
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Nah. Without Piterson and Freddie, the England team can't even stand on one foot. They are the anchor of the team. ------------- |
Posted By: Sureshot
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 6:22pm
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That's funny considering in the series vs Pakistan out of 8 hundreds (I think) KP has one and Freddie hasn't played. Bell is in unbelievable form and Cook is taking to test cricket like a duck to water.
That statement holds nothing as our middle order has practically won us this series without much contributions from KP and no Freddie. |
Posted By: BackFoot Master
Date Posted: 12 August 2006 at 9:30pm
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Ya, we all see Younis, Inzaman and yousuf, but the question remain the same why in the world they don't make runs against AUS. What happen all batsman scare of AUS. ------------- August 16th 2009, my team Youth Combine was crowned CHAMPION once more |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 4:18am
Yuvi and Dhoni are still very early to be called as very strong pillar of middle order.They still need to prove out side there country.Yuvraj singh hasnt perform very well in test matches. ------------- blaa blaa blaa |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 4:30am
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Yuvi has dissapointed in tests,his form in ODI's has been fantastic one of the best one-day batsman going around. ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 13 August 2006 at 4:41am
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Dead right AK . ------------- |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 1:56am
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yea and Dhoni also FAiled in Wi.even in the Odi's. ------------- blaa blaa blaa |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 15 August 2006 at 7:26pm
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They are in form now. They both played well against Sri Lanka A. Yuvraj ofcoarse is in way better form. ------------- |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:43am
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Haha i voted aussie then changed my mind. While Australias middle order has much more potential than any other middle order, it isn't settled really. So i change to pakistan having the best middle order :D |
Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:46am
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The last time pak toured Auss, Younis did well and Yousaf scored a scintilating century! Just look their averages! ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 1:23am
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Almost every team on that list above have a middle order with players who have high averages. India, Sri Lanka, Paksitan, Australia, South Africa, etc...
Having good average doesn't tell everything about a player. Actions speak louder than words and stats. ------------- |
Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 1:35am
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Actions make stats DF! without actions no stats! ) ------------- |
Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 6:33am
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Sri-Lanka's middle order is exactly scrappy either, especially with Sanga at 3, Jayawardene at 4!!! Both who have been in scintilating form of late against England & South Africa!!! ------------- 5-0 You Beauty!!!!! Thanks for the many fantastic memories Marto, Langer, Warney & Pidg |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 7:07am
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See how many votes pakistan has got, on paper they have the best middle order but with the worst upper order they have the most frequent middle order collapses, and best lower order salvage acts though. Infact I would rate pakistan to have the best lower order! ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 25 August 2006 at 5:04pm
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For that I would also add India to it. All batsman up till no.10 have the ability to score atleast 20 and if the top 5 players scores 30 each and the next 5 score 20 each with 10 extras and 10 from the no.11 batsman then the team will have a total of 270. So even they have a good lower order. ------------- |
Posted By: neranja
Date Posted: 15 September 2006 at 11:22am
 i think at presant sri lanken midle oder is the best midle oder in the world .....but australion will give them good run for there
------------- here comes Anjelow Mathiws and Dhammika Prsad... |
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 16 September 2006 at 6:37pm
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Paikstan is not the best middle order in the world. this is a joke looking at the ratings. it is Austrailia, why dont peopel understand, ad nernja yes, Srilankan middle order is is really good, with sanga and jayawardene, possibly even better than Pakistans, also India's middle order is amazing but there just not clicking, with the lickes of yuvraj, dhoni, raina and everyone. Pakistans middle order is good, but it is overrated. ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |
Posted By: EnglandFan
Date Posted: 16 September 2006 at 10:08pm
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If your looking at the ratings and you say aussie middle order is better than pakistanis, then if you look at the ratings how can the SL middle order be better then pakistanis So dont base your opnion on the ratings because they dont show anything. Anyway in my opinion the pak middle order is the best. As you saw this summer several times younis and yousuf scored massive totals to save the pak team. And i dont think the SL middle order is that good, if you compare sanga and jayawardene to Yousuf and Younis then its pretty clear which has the better order. |
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 17 September 2006 at 11:26pm
If you read what i said before, i said its a joke looking at the ratings menaing i dont look at the ratings your poor knowledged cricket fan ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |
Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 3:32am
You are having a serious memory loss. Try to remember how this so called PAK middle order was blasted by Murali, Vaas and Maharoof during last test series? (Yes Pakistan won it, but mainly saved by bad batting from Sri Lanka) ------------- Don't argue with fools. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experiance |
Posted By: EnglandFan
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 5:39pm
Woah take it easy. Firstly I didn't say sanga and Jayawardena suck compare to younis and yousuf, however i do believe that yousuf and younis are better than those two. Also i did see the record partnership but you cant just base ur opnion on one knock even though it was good. But if i recall didn't asif destroy the sri lankan batsmen at home few months back? For me Pakistan has the best middle order: Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam. Each one can win a match single handedly. Then the second best middle order is probably the indians.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 9:31pm
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At the moment for me it has to be Sri Lanka. But in full form, no one can stop India and Australia.
India - Dravid, Yuvraj, Kaif/Raina, Dhoni, and once in a while Pathan. India & nbsp; Australia Dravid equal & nbsp; Ponting Yuvraj better Clarke Kaif/Raina worse &nb sp;Martyn Dhoni/Pathan worse Hussey ------------- |
Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 9:42pm
Yuvraj, Kaif, Raina and PATHAN, better than inzy, younis and yousaf?!! HAHA ------------- |
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 10:13pm
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it depends i think. In ODI's INDIA, but for tests, Pakistan ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 10:16pm
You are forgetting Dravid. India & nbsp; & nbsp; Pakistan Dravid slighly better Inzamam Yuvraj slightly worse Yousuf Kaif/Raina/Dhoni/Pathan worse than Younis Well you are right. Pakistan does have a stronger middle-order. By the way, Razzaq can be counted in the middle order. He is one of the strike players. ------------- |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 4:52pm
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aaah,so u tryin to say that whenever pak's opening fails our middle order did'nt handeled them.I must say that our opening always fails and always our middle order comes under pressure and perform. ------------- blaa blaa blaa |
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 4:51pm
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Well fic your opening, cuz they are not gettiung the job done ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |