Unlucky VVS
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Topic: Unlucky VVS
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Subject: Unlucky VVS
Date Posted: 25 September 2006 at 10:12pm
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VVS Laxman has indeed been one of the most unluckiest India batsman to have roamed the world. His talent wasn't recognised when he first came in, and when he was in form, he was not selected for World Cup 2003 squad. After that he had a lean period along with Ganguly and was kicked out, almost permanently for the ODI squad. Lat year when he was in terrific form in the Challenger Trophy, once again he wasn't selected for the ODI squad for the series against Pakistan against whom he has a great record. I would like to hear from all you posters out there about it, and wheather you agree with me or not.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 25 September 2006 at 10:26pm
I was watching his 281 and wow, amazing, his cover drives were so perfect.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 25 September 2006 at 10:51pm
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That was a waste of a post you know. Seriously you need to focus on quality and quantity. That's what I learned form time and experience.
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Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 25 September 2006 at 11:27pm
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Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
That was a waste of a post you know. Seriously you need to focus on quality and quantity. That's what I learned form time and experience. |
well said. .i feel that the reason hes out of One dayer team is that hes not a brilliant fielder.I'v seen him running after the ball his Legs arent straighten.Do u know any thin abt that.Beside all this hes an excellent batsmen,He should have been counted wid Ganguly and Dravid.
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 1:05am
Well he must have been excellent batter with Ganguly and Dravid. Not been in good form lately. You must have seen in West Indies, he did not play that well. He couldn't do much except for 1 or 2 test matches in Windies. According to me give him change for couple of more matches, if he doesn't improve, then give him chance once in while. ODIs are really far for him, he got to straighten his test career first, and get his form going.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 8:58pm
VVS laxman aint the best batter to past through odi cricket you know DF.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
That was a waste of a post you know. Seriously you
need to focus on quality and quantity. That's what I learned form time
and experience. |
What are you on about, I was saying he ws a good player and then gave an example. What's your problem?
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by Spin Wizard
VVS laxman aint the best batter to past through odi cricket you know DF. |
Absolutely right spin. Laxman wasn't even able to pass throught test cricket. I don't know why many people wants him to be playing in the ODIs.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 11:23pm
Originally posted by spin wizard
VVS laxman aint the best batter to past through odi cricket you know DF. |
I never said he was the best ODI player. Plus he is anyday more experienced and anyday better than Yuvraj, Kaif, Raina, and Dhoni at the moment. The only thnig he needs to work on is consistensy, batting with the tail, and fielding. I hope you got your answer dhoniisbest.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by mAni_paKi
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
That was a waste of a post you know. Seriously you need to focus on quality and quantity. That's what I learned form time and experience. |
well said..i feel that the reason hes out of One dayer team is that hes not a brilliant fielder.I'v seen him running after the ball his Legs arent straighten.Do u know any thin abt that.Beside all this hes an excellent batsmen,He should have been counted wid Ganguly and Dravid.
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At one point, after he made 281 and a couple of centuries, he was actually rated higher than Dravid and Ganguly. He was the next best batsman after Tendulkar. It was only after that Dravid started becoming good. After he made 180, he started making 4 centuries in a row, a couple of double centuries and became consistent and all that.
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:18am
Okay, that was pretty good form he had in the past. But just look at his form right now.
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Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:22am
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Originally posted by dhoniisbest
Well he must have been excellent batter with Ganguly and Dravid. Not been in good form lately. You must have seen in West Indies, he did not play that well. He couldn't do much except for 1 or 2 test matches in Windies. According to me give him change for couple of more matches, if he doesn't improve, then give him chance once in while. ODIs are really far for him, he got to straighten his test career first, and get his form going. |
So,when he was hittin Double Hunderedds he was fine okay.But now when hes out of from u r sayin that hes not a aogod batsmen,He was out of form in WI bcz INdias whole batting was a bit outta form.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:28am
Originally posted by dhoniisbest
Okay, that was pretty good form he had in the past. But just look at his form right now. |
I was replying to a post which someone else said and what MaNi_PaKi just said was right. Ganguly was out of form and you said that he was still good. Laxman is anyday in better form than him, so why single him out. Is it because he is a South Indian.
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 2:58am
I knew that you were quoting him. I don't know why you are comparing Laxman to Ganguly.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 8:45pm
Because they are the two cricketrs trown out of the Indian team, and all this while people have been comparing them. Even otherwise, South Indian players get worse remark than a player from Mumbai.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 8:49pm
He did alright in west indies although he clearly wasn't playing
naturally and he wasnt aggressive, his century was a very slow one and
you could tell it required every ounce of energy he could muster.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 8:51pm
Every players has his own lean period.
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Because they are the two cricketrs trown out of the Indian team, and all this while people have been comparing them. Even otherwise, South Indian players get worse remark than a player from Mumbai. |
Mumbai and Gujarat. Gujarat is maybe because More and Shah are from there .
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 9:04pm
I wasn't saying a joke. I was serious.
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 9:51pm
I am not joking either. More and Shah are Gujarati.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 28 September 2006 at 8:00pm
I don't care about that. I was serious that perople are bias towards North Indian player than South Indian players. Why do you think that Kerala players are rarely selected. Tinu Youhanan was first, now it's Sreesanth. It has been only over the last couple of years that more players have been coming from Southern India. Players from North India get more chances if they fail whereas South Indians get very few cahnces once they fail.
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Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 2:59am
VVS entering the squad now i think is a little too late. If he was on the odi team durinmg his prime, then dropped now due to weak form, i would not think that unlucky. But deliberately keeping him out of the Indian ODI team when he was showing everyone he well he could do was injustice. India have made him into a test player, and by bringing him back it will take long for him to readjust.
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Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 8:36am
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Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
I don't care about that. I was serious that perople are bias towards North Indian player than South Indian players. Why do you think that Kerala players are rarely selected. Tinu Youhanan was first, now it's Sreesanth. It has been only over the last couple of years that more players have been coming from Southern India. Players from North India get more chances if they fail whereas South Indians get very few cahnces once they fail. |
Tinu Yohannan, Balaji, Sridaran Sri Ram, Anil Kumble, Dravid, Murali Kartik all I thought from Southern States of India
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 29 September 2006 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by Wal Bada
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
I don't care about that. I was serious that perople are bias towards North Indian player than South Indian players. Why do you think that Kerala players are rarely selected. Tinu Youhanan was first, now it's Sreesanth. It has been only over the last couple of years that more players have been coming from Southern India. Players from North India get more chances if they fail whereas South Indians get very few cahnces once they fail. |
Tinu Yohannan, Balaji, Sridaran Sri Ram, Anil Kumble, Dravid, Murali Kartik all I thought from Southern States of India |
But only Tinu Youhanan and Sreesanth are from the Southern State of Kerala. That is one of the Southern States. Dravid, Kumble are from Karnataka. Balaji, Karthik is from Tamil Nadu. Laxman I think is from Andra Pradesh. All these foru are Southern States. Hope you understand now.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 2:46am
I amsure you will be happy now though DF
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 3:34am
India have wasted VVS and Vinood Kambli.
And put this on top of losing Azhur and Jadeja.
India bore many quality batsmen in the 90s, and VVS is just one of many.
The list goes on. I think they have wasted their time with guys like Kaif , Jaffer, Gambhir.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 29 November 2006 at 12:58pm
I dont think Kambli was wasted its just that he had some problems and some injuries at the wrong tiume
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 November 2006 at 5:17am
He also got a bit 'starstruck' and became immensly arrogant and his ego took over.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 4:11am
My mom told me that.
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