THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!
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Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Subject: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:15pm
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I've been in this forum for a while now and I've realised that there
are some people who know so much about cricket, they could solve any
problem you care to name. So if you need help on your game, whether it
is to do with batting, wicket keeping, fast bowling or fielding please
post a question here or answer anyone elses questions or problems. (Do
not post questions on spin bowling here, we have a different thread for
that.) Thankyou to anyone who is kind enough to answer the questions
asked.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:17pm
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I'll start us off: When I am batting and the bowler bowls a bouncer outside off stump what do I do? It is too high to cut and I cant hook it because its not straight enough, any help would be appreciated. ------------- [ |
Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:32pm
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then duck or sway or defend, you don't need to play an attacking shot to a good ball, but if you insist on attacking it, ramp it. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:40pm
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ramp? what on Earth is that?
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Posted By: henjam
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:49pm
| Trescothick plays it sometimes, and ive seen glichrist do it a few times, you like basically aim to hit it over the keepers head, playing it just on the offside, by using full face of bat, hard to explain really. its done to a quick short ball. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 6:53pm
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Oh yeah. I saw Stuart Law do that in 2020 to great effect, thanks for the help!
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:53am
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If a ball has pitched outside off stump , you CAN hook it! Try it in the nets and roll your wrists - just hope your teammates aren't too quick for you! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:55am
Think you missed my batting thread aswell. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:19am
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You could also upper-cut it, its basically the same as the 'ramp' only instead of deflecting the ball youre actually throwing a bat at it. However, since this means you're playing the ball above youreshoulder and behind your head its an incredibly risky shot, I think most batsmen would agree you shouldn't even be thinknig about playing it unless a) you're very very very good , b) its the last few overs with plenty of wickets in hand or c) your'e chasing a huge total and have to take stupid risks - even then, only in the final do-or-die overs If you really have to play a shot to that ball, I say your best option is to hook, its harder to hook from outside off but it is possible, like sledger says make sure you roll your wrists ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:52am
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A ball that you cant play a 'normal' shot to must be half decent (even if it is a misdirected bouncer) and should be treated as such so honestly, you're probably best to just let it go past. Though i must admit it is fun to 'ramp' the ball  |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:32pm
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Last season I had to bowl on a grassy pitch as a spin bowler and
from my 5 overs I got 2/24 which is not up to my usual standard, I was
wondering whether anyone had any tips of bowling somewhere that is not
suited to their type of bowling?
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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:05pm
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Mixing your pace works on any pitch, mate. Try and include your straighter ones more; if your legspinner's not turning, introduce the slider/ topspinner/ googlinky Line and length. Works every time.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 11:39pm
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This might turn out to be a good thread. ------------- |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 1:13am
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Thankyou DF, its more of an allsorts thread, not particularly about
either batting or bowling. It can help you with the technical side of
cricket. eg strategy and faults in your game. Thanks fishcake, ill try that next time. ------------- [ |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 7:20am
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hit over the slips its rather risky but is a good shot if played right ------------- |
Posted By: fortylicks
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 12:35pm
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I tend to hit it through the slips
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:43pm
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Theres rarely any slips in 2020 cricket so I could do some of those things. ------------- [ |
Posted By: fortylicks
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:59pm
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I call it "the slip drive"...
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 9:08pm
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Its simple, more back of a lenght deliveries and more skidders like the slider and flipper. A fast wicket is there to beat players with pace so try to get them to go back and get them lbw. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 24 October 2006 at 10:49am
Bowl defensively and don't try and do too much, keep it tight and hope batsmen get themselves out. Slowing right down will mean the batsmen have to swing their arms a bit more, which may mean you get them but may mean you get slapped around a bit...youd have to judge that on the day but its worth a thought depending on the batsman and the state of the game, obviously field-placings are crucial for this approach ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: peninsula
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 6:31am
 Hi, ive been a cricketer for about 8 years now, and i have recently been seeing great results batting at number 4 in the preliminary grades, and have now reached the premiers. My first innings was an edgy 26, which is where i have found a few more areas to work on in order to accomodate for the increased pace, and increased skill from the bowlers. The problem im facing is the pace. What can i do to increase my reaction time, or the time at which i pick the ball up from the bowler. I especially have problems with the short ball, but the full ball i can easily handle. I think i was facing a bowler whos known to be in the 135-140 range, so what can i do in order to get my eye to pick up the ball? Thanks for your time |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:41am
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If your present technique has suited you through so far, and obviously you've done well enough to reach a good standard, then I wouldn't reccomend changing anything, at least untill you've had time to feel your way into this standard. You'll need time to adjust, to get used to differences, and you can't do that if you're batting doesn't feel natural, which it won't if you try to change anything. After you judge you've come through a period of adjustment and you feel more comfortable, then there may well be issues that your coaches point out, but I'd say you're best leaving it to them. They will want to watch you for a while batting your way and judge your natural ability before they commit to changing your technique. I think it's easy, particularly in such a technically-based sport as cricket, to over analyse and to tinker too much, when a feature of any good sportsman is that it comes so naturally. Obviously, nothing I've said here has answered your actual question in anyway, but I think the advice I've offered is more useful at present than anything technical. Or possibly it's because as an Englishman it ain't in my interests to help a young Aussie cricketer reach his full potential...  ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: peninsula
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 12:13pm
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Haha thanks mate. Appreciate it. I like my technique for the length ball, and front foot defence. I am just having a bit of trouble picking the length early enough, in order to commit to front or back foot. Well, its hard to explain. I actually do pick the length, but the line of the short ball is what tricks me, as at the point of release. My initial movement is foreward as ive found that to be the way which leads to me staying out there, but the short ball troubles me. With regards to the pace, its basically just getting my foot out on the off side in time to play a comfortable stroke. My last innings i was basically fishing at it, as i was playing with my arms and eyes without much movement of the feet. Anyhow, thank you very much for the reply.
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 4:01pm
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If you're making a step up to a level with quicker bowlers it's always likely that the short ball is going to be particularly difficult, especially if you like to move forward first. Also, if you're not able to cut properly you could think about not cutting at all, especially early on in the innings, but maybe that's not practical on the pitches you have out there. You could just come and play in England, with any luck you'd probably make 1000+ runs a season without going back once! ------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 5:44pm
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To peninsula..... I think its because you may be on the front foot is why you can't play the shorter balls. Front foot is never the way to play short stuff especially if you aint the class of someone like Punter. I recommend that you get a pacer to bowl pure short stuff at you and you can practice on adjusting to the backfoot quickly and pulling the ball. My coach did that to me once and I can play the pull strokes better now than before. Also, if your reaction time aint all that quick, you could play the ball a bit later like I do. You can be successful by doing that. When the pitch up ones come, then you can do your usual stuff. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:04pm
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Hours at the bowling machine is what I suggest! Look at the ball when it comes out the hand, if he flicks it forward fast then its short. ------------- [ |
Posted By: Pumaman
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:33pm
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If you take your guard outside of your crease you can always move your stance right back within your crease t give yourself more time ------------- Minor counties suck and then you play for one |
Posted By: Pietersen Fan
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 1:12am
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well said ------------- check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 8:09pm
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I've got a question. What should a captain do if he is defending 280 on
the final day of a test match with the series level, attack or defend?
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Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 7:07am
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Would it be the last test match of the series? ------------- |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 11:17am
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That's just a judgement call isn't it, based on the respective quality of each side, the pitch, confidence of each team, personality of the captain, character of the teams etc etc etc. There's no magic answer
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 6:43pm
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I agree with CM! It depends on the quality of the opposition, the pitch and the players on your side as well. Those are the most 3 important things to take into consideration. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:53pm
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ok, youre playing pakistan and youre australia and the pitch has a bit
in it for seamers and its spinning sharply, reasonably even bounce and
australia have just scored 414/5 dec to get in to this position, and
you have a fast bowler who took 5 wickets in the first innings.
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 2:10pm
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Well if you declared presumably it was because you thoguht you could bowl them out...
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 6:08pm
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oh yeah darn. 414 all out
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Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 15 December 2006 at 9:49am
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OK...I don't know. I'm not there
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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 7:40pm
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I thought I'd restart this thread seeing as though new threads were being made for every cricketing problem known to man.
So that means Robbie's fielding problem and legspinner's swing problem can go in here too!! And everyone else's problems, too...  ------------- |
Posted By: robbie
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 8:45pm
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ok then
Ok i am a right handed batsman and a left handed fastmedium bowler i am 14 but i need help setting the right field.
becasue usually i get hit for runs quite alot which makes me think i have to change my line and length and then i get hit for runs again and i need to know what field i should set to stop the run flow.
i know there is another thread like this but i thought u might now have difrent views on it any help would be apreciated and also can some one tell me like what fielding poistions to have not just explain them e.g. Mid Wicket and a short fine leg
and one more thing Fishcake who have u got in your scottish cup 1st round game we have clackmannon  |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 8:58pm
We're playing Broomhall!  Why, who are you playing?------------- |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 20 April 2007 at 7:51pm
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its good that they have made this thread sticky, I'm tired of all these swing bowling etc threads that disappear after 5 posts. Cheers JP
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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:18pm
You should thank me, it was my suggestion. Honestly, mate....  ------------- |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:20pm
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well done fishy!
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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:23pm
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. I feel so much better. It really is a clinic! ------------- |
Posted By: NewBowler
Date Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:53pm
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Where do you most commonly get hit for runs Robbie? On or Off side, down the ground or square etc.
Or is it just that you get hit for runs in all different parts of the ground?
When we know more about this then there'll probably be a few people on here that can help you.
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Posted By: robbie
Date Posted: 21 April 2007 at 5:25pm
| well i dnot get hit for alot but when i d it is on off side usually |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 21 April 2007 at 5:30pm
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I get hit through square leg the most because like all other leg spinners, a ball half a foot short will go there, its a tough life for spinners.
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Posted By: Pietersen Fan
Date Posted: 21 April 2007 at 11:25pm
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yeh just wack a deep square leg in and youl only conceding one, and not four ------------- check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr |
Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 2:20pm
how come I bowl better without my hat on ? A cap doesnt really get in the way but I just bowl better with it off.
+ I think its polite or something too take it off anyway during a match.
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Posted By: charliev1992
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 2:35pm
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Hi , I have just really satrted playing with a proper cricket ball...
But when the bowler runs up I tend to shuffle to my offside , I think I am a bit scared of the ball hitting me. and tend to get bowled down the leg stump.
Can anyone help me...
Thanks.
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Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 3:49pm
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Are you wearing padding? they will stop the ball from hitting you:). But what I learned when I was young was too sweep it if it's off the wicket and step in and block if its on the wicket :).
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Posted By: charliev1992
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 4:07pm
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Yeh I am padded up...but not fully im scared of it hitting me in the goolies.
Anything else?
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Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 5:09pm
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what are goolies? ^^ Don't you have box for them? :)
Everyone is scared too get hit there ;).
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Posted By: charliev1992
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 5:27pm
| Yeh lol. Iv'e never been hit there and more than likely I wont because the bat is in the way but I shuffle a lot because im a bit scared of the ball...should I not be scared? |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 5:31pm
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Cricket balls are not there to be scared of. your more likely to be hit if you shy away then if you go for it.
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Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 5:38pm
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agreed, mayb just let someone fast bowl at you, without you being allowed too move so you can get used too it :P. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 22 April 2007 at 5:46pm
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mate, youre 14, I'm sure youve seen scarier things than a cricket ball in your life.
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Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 23 April 2007 at 3:50pm
How do you know that is his date of birth :-P. It could be the year he bowled his first hattrick.
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Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 1:42pm
| Just a quick question about rules... this the right place? anyway. If you get stumped and both the batsmen are exacly in the middle who is out ? |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 2:02pm
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By definition it is not a stumping, the batsmen are attempting a run thus making it a run out within the laws. Law 29.2 determines which batsman is considered to be out of his or her ground in the event of a run out, though does not mediate for situations where the batsmen are level and located in the exact middle of the pitch. 29.2 (c) comes closest with: If there is no batsman in either ground, then each ground belongs to whichever of the batsmen is nearer to it, or, if the batsmen are level, to whichever was nearer to it immediately prior to their drawing level.As they have not technically crossed I would go with the batsman leaving his ground at the the end where the wicket was broken, that is to say the one running away from the wicket that has been put down. This is only an interpretation, and I could see an equal case for the batsman running towards the broken wicket if any part of his person or bat is past the other batsman. ------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 2:13pm
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thanks :) that is resonably clear ------------- Zapp |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 3:27pm
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One tries......
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: Bennos
Date Posted: 24 April 2007 at 6:54pm
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and I am truely grateful :) ------------- Zapp |
Posted By: Pat191
Date Posted: 30 April 2007 at 9:10pm
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Hi, im new does anyone know how I could improve my batting, i often find myself getting out to quick bowlers by quick deliveries that swing. I think i might either be playing down the wrong line or getting the bat through 2 late, any help at all will be very nice :) |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 05 May 2007 at 4:51pm
| Play the swinging ball quite late and watch it all the way on to your bat. |
Posted By: DuckMan
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 12:51am
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Wicketkeeping problem - when I move over past the blind spot on legside, I have a tendancy to dive more than I move my feet. I know this is technically c**p but its in case I get hit in the head. Silly I know. Is there any technique behind it? Do I need to watch the bowlers arm more ? Cant where helmets they obstruct my view and upset my game  By the way apologies for starting a new thread on the same thing. didn't realise this was here but cant delete it. |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 7:53am
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You need to watch the ball out of the bowlers hand, if you think it is going towards the batsmans body then begin to move down the legside, if it then goes down leg you should be able to pick it up with very little trouble.
Hope this helps
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Posted By: DuckMan
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 11:00am
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Thanks mate! I'll give it a try |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 11:18am
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I am very bad at batting especially at playing extreme pace as i find the ball to fast to see sometimes.
Also when going on the front foot i find that the weight of my legs is still on the back foot. Please Help! ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: Smack
Date Posted: 09 May 2007 at 4:09pm
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^ practice without a bat moving forward into a driving position. Make sure that your head is over your front toe and if you need to, raise your backfoot onto your toes. This will show you the correct position, now just apply it in the nets/match.
For extreme pace try a trigger movement, like back and across, watch the ball from the bowlers release.
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Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 4:45pm
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what do you mean by 'back and across' and should i practice
with or without a bat when moving into the driving position as you mentioned? ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 4:24pm
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'back and across' means....if you take a leg stump guard then you move your backfoot 'back and across' towards the off stump so as to get your head in line with the ball when its on an off stump line.
However, going back and across, I find, is only helpful for playing off the back foot so I am not sure how it will help you if you are having trouble getting on to the front foot.
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Posted By: strokemaker
Date Posted: 21 May 2007 at 10:28pm
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Hi everyone. I was watching highlights of the famous 2000 Lords test today and I noticed that Walsh and Ambrose, who are two great bowlers bowled at the same pace as the not so great bowlers. The thing that was different about them was that they could make the ball seam an inch or even 2 inches to either side and that is how they took most of their wickets. So I ask you this question. Is seam the most important skill you need as a fast bowler to take wickets or is swing/Pace more important? And if it was only seaming because of the pitch then why werent the other west indian bowlers doing that? Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm new here. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 21 May 2007 at 11:11pm
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Seam is very dangerous as the batsman has no idea were the ball is going until it moves off the pitch while swing on the other can be read just before the ball pitches. Accuracy is also a key factor and that's why Ambrose especially was deadly!! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Chief
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 12:08am
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Remember even further back both Lillie And Hadlee both achieved better bowling figures after they reduced they pace and concentrated ao being able to move the ball and bowl a more consistant line.
Mcgrath also has had the same sucess by landing the ball on the same spot over after over and then doing someting like make the ball jag back or away from the batsman
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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 12:50am
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Thats why the ahktars and lee's will never be regarded as great bowlers, pace means nothing if you don't move the ball. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: strokemaker
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 10:53pm
| yeah i agree but when you get guy like Marshall for example who can make 90 mph and swing it like a bannana you get the great players as opposed to the very good players. Everyone who saw say Marshall was the greatest fast bowler ever so I am going to take their word. |
Posted By: beasty
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 5:07pm
| hi. the ptiches i play on are usually slow and low so i find it hard to pick up the run rate when batting. what sort of things could i do? |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 29 May 2007 at 5:14pm
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If the pitch is consistently low, and not a bit hit and miss, I find it best to get forward early - often taking guard a foot or so in front of the crease.
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: LiverpoolFC_Fan
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:19am
| Hi, im new. But i wanted to know, whats a good way to pick out a slower ball if you are batting? And if you are already comited to the shot, what do u do then? |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:54am
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Wait for the ball to come to you.. I like to flick slower balls square of the wicket on the onside if they are on stumps, or just outside off stump. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:20am
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If you are already commited to the shot, then try to put your body into the line of the ball and just hope you are not given lbw! ------------- |
Posted By: DuckMan
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:11pm
| Just noticed that I am struggling with the left arm pace bowlers as a right handed batter. They are coming across me rather than into me and seem to be edging the ball alot more. Was thinking of changing my guard so I am batting on off stump. What are your thoughts and advice on this? |
Posted By: The Tyke
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:26pm
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I wouldn't change your guard to on off stump. Otherwise your leg stump would be exposed and they'll take it out the ground.
Cut down the length so it isn't coming across you any more. Take a big stride down which will make the angle change so it's coming towards you.
Footwork is vital for dealing with bowling that comes across you.
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Posted By: legspinner102
Date Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:49pm
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Hallo people Im getting problems playign my sweeps and on-drives =S
This picture could be helpfull to some people, it certainly helped me!!!
 Im a right handed batsmen and can play pretty well. When i tried to play these shots, I couldn't play them early enough becasue of the fast pace bowling.Even though I still couldn't at a medium pacer because wenever I do the on-drive, I can make enough room to get my foot to the pitch of the ball and when I play the sweep, I time the ball well but the bat and ball dont make contact  Please help me!------------- |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 5:40pm
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hi i'm a total beginner to batting and i need desperate help! I cant seem to use my foot well, i can't seem to
put my foot towards the ball and when i try there is often not much time to do this ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 31 May 2007 at 8:20pm
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I had that problem when I started to move my feet. Things weren't clicking. These days, I get onto the front foot real nice without even really thinking. You will get accustom after a lot of practice. I have a pretty darn good technique but most of the times, I don't concentrate when the bowler is bowling, I mean like watching the ball all the way. I see it in the air then take my eyes off.
Here's what to do, when training, get someone to bowl medium pace for you so you get enough time and no fear in your mind. That will help you. Tell the person to increase the pace as you get better. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 01 June 2007 at 4:18pm
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thanks spin should i try moving my foot towards the ball?
What happens if it swings a lot or spin? I'll be putting my foot in the wrong direction then. ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:26pm
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Ofcourse you should try moving to the ball but note that you should only move forward to balls on good length and not short balls unless the pitch is staying low. All batsman get problem with swing and when it's right in the spot, you just can't help but just admiring some great bowling. Swing is readable though as the ball moves in the direction it is going in the air. I am naturally good against inswing because of my technique so it really depends on the technique you've got. For spin, just get to the pitch of the ball and it's dealt with. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: DuckMan
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:11pm
| Just an update on the left arm bowler problem I had. Moving myself outside my crease works a treat. Thanks for that Tyke! I cracked 10 off an over against the left armer. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:38pm
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Nice work! I have had my share of problems from them too. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: manic111
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 1:36pm
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Hi, I am an opening batsman who averaged about 44 last season. This season I am averaging a little under 2 from 4 innings. My first dismissal was an unlucky run out for 7, when I felt in really good touch, and since then I have got 3 ducks in a row. The first I went for a horrible, horrible slog and got bowled through the gate, and the second and third I went to drive and was caught at point and cover.
What do you all do when you are down on confidence? I have tried to bat a little more defensively, but our other opening batsman is a very defensive player, so that doesnt really help the team. I dont really know what to do-I am working hard in nets, but my confidence is down and I am no longer getting into line. Any advice would be appreciated. |
Posted By: Smack
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:33am
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First of all positive thought, you've got 3 ducks so it cant get much worse, things are bound to get better. Try and remember that a batsmen of your ability should be scoring runs. Secondly even Tendulkar, Pieterson etc have to play themselves in. You've got to ignore the other batsmen and concentrate on your own game. So a bit more caution at the start of your innings is needed. Whatever the other batsmen is doing, its not gonna help your team to get out for ducks. Actually its better to play 2 or 3 maidens and cash in once your settled.
Thirdly check a thread i made on confidence, the boys left a few good tips there.
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Posted By: The Tyke
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 3:41pm
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I'd say that the best thing to do is try to just play yourself in. Make sure as you start your innings you aren't playing shots with the bottom hand.
Use the top hand and play everything along the ground. The fielders can't catch you out that way and your also making them work by forcing them to make diving stops and picking it up off the ground.
You have to play the way you feel is right. If you're an attacking sort of batsman then don't try to play defensive, it just doesn't work for us. Get on the front foot and play shots but like I said before don't loft them up just yet. Wait until you've got the team a platform to work off before trying riskier shots.
Confidence is a horrible thing in my opinion. It can create a mental block if you don't have it, so change what you're confident about. Be confident in knowing that you're a good batsman and this dip in form won't last forever.
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Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 9:23am
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i'm still have trouble with flighting the ball when bowling legspin. I just keep dragging it down. I used
to get a lot of flight before but people said that i flight too much so i decided to reduce my flight amd now i can't flight it any more-sad story ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: Pietersen Fan
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 5:56pm
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prehaps your going through your action too quick ------------- check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 8:17am
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what do u mean by that? Is it that i'm swinging my arm too quickly? So uwhat do u suggest i do? And if i swing
my arm less i'll get even slower than i already am. ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: The Tyke
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 7:00pm
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What I think he's saying is that you have altered your action to flight the ball less, by releasing the ball lower. So now, when you go through your bowling action you are naturally releasing the ball lower to give less flight. What you need to do is to slow your action down and practice releasing the ball higher. Then once you're used to it then you can speed up your action again. ------------- Minn hugur er minn sverš (My mind is my sword) |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:25am
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k thanks tyke i understand now! ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 2:47pm
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Yep, I was going to say the samething tyke said. Yep, I guess you are bowling too slow. Your run up could be a factor too. When you pass the umpire, you need to rev up your run up and jump into the crease. Not a big jump though! Remember the basics, stay side on, bowl round arm, spin the ball up in the air and don't bowl it too fast.
I played a 20-20 match sunday and had the same problem, I wasn't going through my run up good. I was going to slow at the start but at the end I found it back and landed them more on target with good flight! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: revolutions
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 8:40pm
| My batting has improved I can now play decently of front and back foot. Though I have a couple of problems, when I drive the ball off front or back foot I am not timing the ball very well I am hitting the ball early and as a consequence it is not staying on the ground What is the best way to improve my timing. Don't just say hit it later. |