Cameron White
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Topic: Cameron White
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Subject: Cameron White
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 2:47am
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Currently the Victorian skipper, aged 23 - He is has transformed himself from a leg break googly bowler into a fine, and aggressive middle order batsmen.
What are your views.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/somerset/content/player/8291.html - http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/somerset/content/player/8291 .html
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Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 3:19am
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I believe Cameron White is the future test captain. He may not follow Ponting instantly but he will follow. He has leadership tattooed all over him and as you said is 23. Look at the next generation, Jacques, Cosgrove, Tait, Croswaite, Johnson. White looks pretty set in that group. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 8:32am
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I agree that when Ponting retires Camron White will be the next captain. He's a fantastic Allrounder for Victoria and scores 100's regularly. They should definatly put him in one of the ashes tests to give him experience for the future. Victorian's have been over looked when selecting for the national side. Only Warne is in the team permantly. Hodge and White deserve a chance to prove themselves. ------------- |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 8:33am
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Dont worry about the poll, I forgot to put in "Both Forms," Unless Pete of JP can add it in.. ------------- |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 8:53am
I think Cameron White will make his way into the One day side before breaking through to the test team and being a huge success.  ------------- |
Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 9:01am
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So long as he is not expected to be SK Warne ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:42am
| His bowling isn't anywhere near good enough to worry Test match players so his batting would need to continue developing a fair bit to warrant a place in the team |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:44am
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His bowling is continually improving, he started off as a leggie who could bat, then he focused on his batting too much. He has a ripping leggie, and still needs to further develop his leg break - he has the support of Victorian team-mate, the great Shane Warne and many other sources ---> he can only get better. ------------- |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:49am
| Well he only managed 15 wickets at over 48 in our apparently rubbish County Championship, so he'd need to get a lot better |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:56am
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He scored a double ton , and got 140 in a 20:20 match.... he made up for it in terms of batting - that's the thing about White, if he fails with the ball, he will get runs. The selectors have lost faith in him after a couple of ODIs and he is no longer contracted, but he is young - time's on his side. ------------- |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:14pm
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I saw him in an ODI here, got a golden duck i belive (brilliant vettori diving catch) and i swear the only ball he slightly turned was his googly, his leggie just went dead straight. |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 12:37pm
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There isn't an option for both forms of the game. I think he has a chance to make an impact in both. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 9:34pm
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Fear not, when he was bowling regularly, he moved it quite enough. So many people are focussed on how much they can move the ball. Reality is, you only need to move t 2-3 inches to take the edge of a bat. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:47pm
| To reiterate what i have allready said, what i have seen of him it didn't even spin 1 cm! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 6:58am
I've not seen much of White , but he can certainly hit a ball! At 23 , there's plenty of time to make an impact on the international stage - obviously captaincy potential after Ponting retires after this Ashes series defeat!  ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 7:02am
Kiwi wickets do not cater for spinners. I have seen him bowl at the MCG and he did spin it..
Pete, I think White is a born leader and would be the next Aussie ahead of Clarke.. he is like Brearley but can actually play cricket. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 7:46am
Ooooooooooooh!!! Very cutting Mik !! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 8:56am
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Sorry for stating the obvious Pete. ------------- |
Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 20 November 2006 at 7:36pm
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His matrity for such a young man is the most impressive factor about him. He was a slogger who bowled spin and transformed himself into a class bat. ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 22 November 2006 at 10:56pm
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I am ignorant enough to not know who Cameron White is. ------------- |
Posted By: barfbag
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 9:36pm
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Yeah who is this Cameron white? ------------- Monty Panesar and the Holy Grail is the best movie ever! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 10:32pm
| Class bat is a big call, granted he can murder a ball but he is not a genuine batsman, He bowls similar to kumble, pretty quick and accurate. I can see him as a reg in 1 dayers but not in tests. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 8:15pm
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good
enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if
either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can
slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near
good enough for test though.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 5:14am
How would you know if he isn't given a chance? ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 6:47am
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That is a load of crap. The bloke has first class double tons, and other centuries. You need temperament and control to be able to do that. Unless you have seen him play it is hard to judge him.. He can score fast, but he doesn't really take the aerial route, and if he does it is usually over the field, not through it. ------------- |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 9:55am
So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level? |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 10:02am
No, but White has first class double centuries, and this guy's saying he'd be nowhere near up to test standard. If he can bat for that long to score a double century, I think he has potential to become a Test Player. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 7:04pm
Yeah youre right, Jason Gillespie should be in the Aussie side as a batsman. ------------- [ |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 9:33pm
I'm talking about a batsman with proper batting skill, you dimwit. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 10:00pm
Well why on Earth are you wasting your time talking about White who isn't anywhere near good enough you fool. Anyone can score a double century, Mark Ramprakash can, but could he handle test? NO!!! Graham Hick scored a bloody quadruple century but could he handle test cricket? NO!! Get over this guy for goodness sake, and while youre at it get over yourself! ------------- [ |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 6:24am
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You must be the most ignorant bloke on this forum. All you do is look at stats ("Aww Adam Voges only aveages 40....). Get over yourself, I have seen White play and he looks good, very good. ------------- |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 8:24am
How do you he'll be no good on the test arena, you haven't even seen him play, it's too early to judge but he could be brilliant, we'll see ------------- |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 8:35am
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He just scored 126* off 100 balls to smash NSW (him skippering VIC) from no. 4 after NSW set 295 for Vic to win. ------------- |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 3:12pm
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So? James Benning has done that. I have seen Cameron White play loads
of times on TV and whenever the pitch is bad he gets out! Whenever it
is a good pitch, I admit he looks really good but so does everyone.
Fact remains he is not as good as Symonds and they are very similar
players so why would he get in ahead of him? If a guy only averages 40
(Adam Voges) then he shouldnt be playing for Australia, thats common
sense you fool.
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 12:16am
**** off. Look how many of your Pommy players average less than Voges in 1st class cricket. And I still rate m any of them.
All you do is look at fricken stats, Hussey averages 80 in tests, does that make him the 2nd greatest ever batsmen.............NO!
You are so ignorant it make me laugh, and your lack of cricket knowledge and maturity leaves something to be desired.
I am no longer going too bite, as 99% of those who have real cricket knowledge know that you are wrong. ------------- |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 5:56am
About Adam Voges, you don't think he should be added to an ageing side? You don't think they should give him a go to see how he adapts to International Cricket? He's 27 and he could have a future, so I suggest you keep your mouth shut from now on. You know nothing and it makes me laugh. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 8:17pm
I know far more than you 2 put together. I cant prove it but its true. Lack of maturity? Everywhere on this forum you take the **** out of people for making mistakes like going off subject, youre pathetic, you think you own the place, but actually youre some cocky aussie hillbilly who thinks he knows everything about cricket. Egland is not as good as Australia at cricket, the whole bloody universe knows that and sometimes we have to pick 40 average people coz thats all weve got but I dont see why youre picking Voges over Hodge or someone as they are similar ages except Hodge has already proven himself at all levels, unlike your idol Voges. You will never play for Australia and Muralitharan is by far the greatest spin bowler evr, Warne is an amateur compared to him and its funny how you think Muralis a cheat just coz he hasnt got a normal action. Youre such an old fashioned cricket fan and I hate that. ------------- [ |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 8:25pm
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To call Warne an amteur, in comparison to anybody is silly.
------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 12:40am
If you knew more than us, then you should know Hodge is out with an injury, you fool. You know more than both of us put together? How do you know it's true if you can't prove it? Idiot. And calling Warne an ametuer after he always owns you English is really idiotic. Sorry but you're nothing but a stupid child who doesn't know anything. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 7:12am
Congradulations to Victoria as well. Excellent partnership by White and Klinger. Thats there highest run chase successfully reached. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 8:15am
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This thread is getting out of hand and the insults are something that must stop. It might be useful for you all to re-read the rules of this site and see that the kind of behaviour that's been posted here isn't allowed , still less welcome. Healthy debate needn't stoop to open warfare - a little sarcasm when in disagreement can be funny , open hostility is not. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 8:30am
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Haha, look at the ignorance.
Warne takes 40 wickets against 70_degree_spins' Englishmen in the last series and he calls him an amateur compared to Murali. Oh God, I can not stop myself from laughing, somebody kill meeee!! ------------- |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 4:58pm
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RHB - Warne hardly owns the English....Look at his performance so far in the series. Good but hardly suggesting that he has infinite dominance over the team :S ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 6:50pm
Youre incredibly cocky, all your posts are about you scoring thousands of runs and taking 10 wickets. Warne does make us look bad but have you ever even seen Murali against the English? He's had 2 nine wicket hauls and a couple of eights. In the 3 match test series this year he took 24 wickets out of a possible 40!! Thats unbelievable and Warney could never do that. Youll never make it in cricket, and if you do it will be the guy who sells pies at lunch. ------------- [ |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 8:13pm
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Warne is arguably the greatest player ever to live. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 8:20pm
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Come on lads, Warne and Murali are great players and none is above the other by a big margin; thats just silly! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:21pm
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Some serious sledgin there 70DS! ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 4:54am
Cockiness can be a good thing, and uhh hahaha you make me laugh with your immature crap. You find me one post where I mention myself scoring thousands of runs and taking ten wickets and I'll be quiet and you just keep going the way you're going and you'll have no friends on this forum. Oh and uh I can't make it in cricket? I suppose you will? Just shut up and stop talking crap you can't even back up. Honestly, I don't care what you think about me. All I know is you're some stupid child who is one ignorant little brat. And, I do not understand why MiNiWaRnEy got banned, after this kid stirred every single Aussie up -there is a point where one goes too far, and I think this has all been provoked by 70ds, and he should too be banned. ------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 5:05am
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hahahahaha is about all that can be said for the on-going argument.... seriously, both of you grow up and get over yourselves....
anyways.... back on topic.....
White is seriously overrated atm imo. Sure he scored a double ton etc. etc. but there are plenty of better pure batsmen in australian domestic cricket atm, and at least 3/4 spinners ahead of him.
Unless he starts to concentrate on his bowling more, he'll never be nothing more than a Good ODI all-rounder, and a poor test player. Much in the same mould as Andrew Symonds. ------------- 5-0 You Beauty!!!!! Thanks for the many fantastic memories Marto, Langer, Warney & Pidg |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:09am
We don't have to explain why anyone is banned from the forum , but bans aren't handed out willynilly. Keep your own vigil and stick to cricket and leave administration to those in the know. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:11pm
Thats what ive been saying the whole time! I got laughed at and abused for saying it tho. ------------- [ |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:14pm
How have i provoked it, this was all started when I said that White wasnt good enough yet and then Miniwarney and u start insulting me and arguing with me. ------------- [ |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:50pm
| there's only two of you left involved and I suggest you let it go. If you find it necessary to continue at least go easy on the embedded quotes as they are an eyesore. |
Posted By: prasmp
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 10:50am
| bring craig white from england |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 1:21pm
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what? stop posting crap and making crap polls and threads, trust me I
know all about crap posting and you do it a lot with your unimaginative
drivel. ------------- [ |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 1:24pm
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I'd ignore him 70DS, he's just posting crap everywhere ------------- |
Posted By: OwzatWarrior
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 10:57am
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Integral part of the Aussie ODI and Twenty20 side because of his murderous batting - his fizzing leg-spin's also quite handy, he's quite similar to Afridi... Quick, bowls many different variations in flight and pace, and bowls the occasional wrong 'un.
As for the test team... Sorry Cameron but no. He doesn't have what it takes to come into the order as a 6/7 - Supposing the Aussies are in a bit of trouble, say 150/5, if Cameron White comes in at 7, then his Gung-ho tactics will just upset the balance of the team - Sure a quickfire 30 is handy in ODI's or the 4th day of a test to set up a full 5th day of bowling - But in the really nitty gritty games, he'll crumble like Afridi... Hence his constant exile from the Pakistan Test squad. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 11:41am
| Ponting doesn't have much faith in his bowling anyway |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 6:27pm
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I can see why clobs, it's hardly amazing ------------- |
Posted By: Vipera russelli
Date Posted: 21 January 2007 at 7:39pm
| Overrated. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 6:16am
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Cameron White can bat , but his bowling is very , very ordinary. I'd
not seen him before this series , but it's clear, that for a leggie ,
he barely gets it off the straight! A Warne in the making he most
definitely isn't !
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:24am
| Just reading back it is amusing to see one of our former members - and self declared font of all knowledge on spin bowling - stating that White has a "ripping leggie" |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 9:27am
 I spotted that too Clobs and had a good chuckle !
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 22 January 2007 at 2:01pm
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I think he should just quit bowling, I saw him bowl for Somerset and when the commentator said he'd just bowled the googly I said "WIT???" didn't spin at all. Just loads of toppies followed by a so called googly. His batting is also one dimensional and would be very surprised if he kept his place in the team for a long time. ------------- [ |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:24am
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His bowling is terrible, as he has proved in the commemwealth bank series so far, not only does the ball not spin, he's not that accurate either ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:38am
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Quite right , I think Bevan was a better leggie and so is
Hogg. He can hit though , but as 70DS says , he might just
be one dimensional and found out pretty quickly. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Vipera russelli
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:20am
Leggie????????????? 
Or Chinaman? |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:49am
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Quite right Vip !!!!
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: strokemaker
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 1:35pm
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wow, talk about an absolute mammoth argument on this page. Wow, it went on for ages, now thats a heated discussion. I personally agree with everything 70DS and Sledger have said (on this page) and that his bowling is embarassingly bad. His batting would be godly against bad bowling but against a team like Pakistan or England with excellent bowling attacks he would be found out and he would then struggle for a place. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 1:55pm
| that "ripping leggie" thing still cracks me up |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 8:57am
| His bowling is pretty much a joke |
Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 9:31am
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Oh and his flipper WOW! it is so amazing. Anyway, I have never seen anybody spin the ball so much off the square. He makes Murali look like an under-10s bowler. ------------- See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
Posted By: strokemaker
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 9:45pm
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i hope thats sarcasm
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 12:15am
| you'd be surprised |
Posted By: Dan Can
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 5:03pm
Not in any form 
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