The ladder system
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Topic: The ladder system
Posted By: -JP-
Subject: The ladder system
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 6:34pm
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Any ideas how we can reconfigure the ladder system?
I.e, something better than the fielder, bowler, ultra poster, idea.
I want something other than the 'club player' - 'world class player' idea you see everywhere else - maybe something to do with fielding positions - start off at short leg end with the slips.
Or have everyone as some sort of bowler - declaration bowler, part-time bowler all the way through to main strike bowler/new ball bowler.
Any other ideas?
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Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:56pm
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This sounds like a good idea.
How about batting positions Tailender, Special batstman, Middle order, Openng batsman ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:45pm
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I've gone with the batsman idea. Basically, the more posts, the higher up the order you move. So, you start at 12th man, and work your way up to opening batsman.
Get to 10,000 posts and you're a world-class all-round batsman.
I'm trying to think of something clever for the mods/admins, ambidextorous or omnipresent batsmen or something?
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:54pm
| It doesn't seem to be working properly - the highest anyone is at the moment is a lower-order batsman! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 3:56pm
| Are you spreading out the gaps between each level as well? |
Posted By: Rifat
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 4:05pm
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Good idea JP but 10,000 posts is too much, it would take me 10 years to reach that It should be like this: 0 posts= 12th Man Less than 100= Tailender More than 100= Lower order batsman 1000+= Middle Order batsman 3000+= Openng Batsman 5000+= Legendary Cricketer |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 4:15pm
How about "Bradman" for the mods? 
------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 01 December 2006 at 9:21pm
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How come some people have only 10 posts but are wicket-keeper batsman. What are all the batting positions. 12th man, Lower order batsman, Wicket-keeper batsman, Number 7 batsman, number 6 batsman, higher middle order batsman, Specailist number 11 batsman are there any others? ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 2:06pm
It's not working, and I'm not sure why.
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 4:23pm
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It is working, but the way the forum works, everyone is defaulted into the starter group until they post, so if they don't post for a while but have lots of posts, it won't register that until they do post. Or unless I go round and check them all and change them manually. It'd give me something to do on a slow news day!!! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:48am
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1) Leg Break
2) Top Spinner
3) Googly
4) Slider
5) Flipper ------------- |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 4:15pm
| 6) Chuck it as far outside leg stump as you can get away with |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:06pm
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It seems to be working a bit better now ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 9:00pm
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Maybe:
a)Part-timer b)Wide bowler... and ends at yorker or banger.[IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" align="middle" /> Doesn't soung too good to me. -JP- how would the highest be a lower-order batsman. AK would almost be an opener by now. I think the current one is good enough too. I'll post later when I get some better ideas. EDIT: I never knew that the Batting order was already there. YAY! I'm a Higher Middle Order Batsman (a bit too long and the other one is still better). How often do have I batted so high in the order. ------------- |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 3:51am
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Actually i like Chin Music's ,how about storing runs of legendary cricketers and then proceed like that ? ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 11:10am
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For those of you wondering about the ladder system, here's a spoiler: 0-50 posts: 12th Man 50-100: Tail-end Batsman 100-250: Lower-Order Batsman 250-500: Wicket-keeper Batsman 500-1000: Number 7 Batsman 1000-2000: Number 6 Batsman 2000-3000: Lower Middle-Order Batsman 3000-5000: Higher Middle Order Batsman 5000-7500: Number 3 batsman 7500-10000: Opening Batsman 10000+: World Class All-Round Batsman |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 11:44am
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Well this no 7 and number 6 batsmen is a bit of monotony, secondly this system tells us that the opening batsmen is the best well thats usually not the case! I believe use all three forms, batting, bowling , fielding, and eventually get a few legends names into the fold, can have more slabs, and may be we have admin group also nammed into the system, I am working on that too! ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 11:53am
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How about this one
0-50 posts: Twelth man
50-100: New cap 100-250: Third man 250-500: Extra cover 500-1000: Ist slip 1000-2000: wicket keeper 2000-3000: Oppening batsman 3000-5000: Middle Order Batsman
5000-7500: Number 3 batsman 7500-10000: Opening bowler 10000+: Spearhead 10000-15000: All rounder
15000-20000 : skipper
20000- 50000: legend
50,000 or more: Bradman
------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 12:19pm
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I like that wiseguy - anyone else have any objections/suggestions, else I'll go with that. I'll give everyone 24 hours to decide. |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 1:06pm
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Isn't 50,000 little more? Nobody is above 10,000, AK would have been there if he comes to the forum.
My suggestion: drop some of the names from middle and add the ones that are last on the list. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 1:07pm
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No, we'll keep that upper limit, I reckon. After all, wouldn't you have said that 99.94 is bordering on the impossible? |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 1:12pm
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Ok, fine with me. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:01pm
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How about we fit in skipper somewhere in between those JP. I'd say between 400-500. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:16pm
| Yeah, sounds good! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:32pm
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As an alternative you could have names of players allocated for each stage - starting off with the worst player in Test history, whoever he may be, getting better and better until you hit 50k posts and you then are Don Bradman. On the flip side my one concern with having high post counts necessary for some levels is that it will encourage the post boosters ever more. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:40pm
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I think that could get a bit messy - what if someone, for example, takes exception to being labelled 'Allan Border' instead of 'Sachin Tendulkar' or something? And yup, the post-boosting would be horrific. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:45pm
Think of the poor sods stuck as "Ashley Giles" between 50 and 100 posts  We could have a vote for the name of each rank. And make post boosting a banning offence \o/ |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 4:25am
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Ill go with either of -JP- or wisey
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 7:50am
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I say Ian Salisbury or Mick Lewis as 12th man (0-50 posts) ------------- |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 8:26am
Agreed! Put that in the forum rules. ------------- |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 9:52am
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I think 50,000 posts is a bit too much . ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 11:02am
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OK, the new rankings are in place, and I don't envisage changing them too much from now on: 0: 12th Man 20: Test Debutant 50: Short Leg 100: 3rd Man 250: Extra Cover 500: First slip 750: Captain 1000: Wicket-Keeper 2000: Opener 3000: Middle-Order Batsman 5000: Number 3 Batsman 7500: Opening Bowler 10000: All-rounder 20000: Cricket Legend |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 11:59am
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Admins --> Match referees Mods --> Umpires Any better ideas? |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 12:58pm
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I don't want to be an Umpire or indeed the ICC for that matter. Captain has a nice ring to it, but you'd need to remove that from the post bands then |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:12pm
| Yes, captain - coach - manager kind of thing then? |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:18pm
| I'd say that works yeah |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 1:58pm
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Mods = captain, Admin = Manager Done. |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 5:11am
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Good hope ths wont change now . ------------- |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 6:09am
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I like this new ladder system. Although how many post to you need to be square leg? ------------- |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 7:04am
Well if new members don't see this trhead then they will not know who the moderator and admins are. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 8:47am
Pity I've been away JP !! Can't we take some of the names thrown at us over the years? A western theme such as "Sheriff" of "Lawman" would be pertinent. But is it ruthless enough? Personally I'd prefer something with a little more venom .... "Dictator" or "Despot" has a nice ring to it . "Caesar" would get the message across to the more argumentative members.... Best of all though must be "The Terminator!" ....something very sinister in that title mate!! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 9:27am
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That would be great Sledger ------------- |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 9:52am
I don't see that as a bad thing as I think it helps them interact more naturally without the fear of thinking "best not say that to a mod". If they need help from a mod or admin it isn't to hard to figure out how to get it, even for a noob. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 4:49pm
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I like the sheriff idea! It's fantastic me thinks! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:26am
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This new ladder system might make post-boosting popular again. ------------- |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 4:14am
I think that looks very much Ok to me, but why the captain before opener , middle order, bowler and all rounder, just switch captain a little higher. Otherwise this reminds me of times in pakistan cricket where a few players only played as captain as they could not find a place as a bowler or batsman! ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 5:10am
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True.
I would prefer it if we used non-cricketing jargon, or of we used actual players. Like for someone with 2 posts they would be Giles. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 6:48am
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Ouch Mik !!! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 7:00am
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That's what you get for embarassing 60 million plus Englishmen and women. ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 3:49pm
The captain issue has been solved now, as now mods are captains, admins are managers. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 4:07pm
Which in turn will make deleting posts and dishing out warnings popular again among the Captains and Managers |
Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 08 December 2006 at 7:11pm
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I like the Bradman idea, you should keep that just in case someone reaches it by the 2012 olympics or something
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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 9:09am
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I'm not a massive fan of ladder systems - they do encourage spamming. However I suppose they work in a few ways. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 9:33am
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JP is it possible whereby a post that we feel is rubbish can be
scored as MINUS 1 ? (we'd have to be able to make that input) Instead of just deleting the daft ones , the post booster actually loses out? ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:15am
| Nice idea Sledger. I'm not sure that it could be done in an automated fashion, but we do have the ability to change users' post counts, I know that much. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:16am
| When a post is deleted, the post count is also lessened by 1. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:41am
| Yes but I think Sledge meant they also get an additional one taken off their count. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:59am
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How much work do you guys want to make for yourselves!! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 12:20pm
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Initially it might create a little more work JP , but the members will think hard before posting dross. Ultimately I believe the forum will benefit - in a perfect world ALL the posts will be worth reading!! (cue musical crescendo and amazing sunset as John Wayne waddles into the sunset) Sighhhhhh I'm an incurable romantic at heart lads... ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 12:30pm
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OK, if you want to go for it, do it. At your own discretion though - if something is utter dross, I'd be inclined to take 5 or more posts off, never mind 1. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 12:48pm
| one or two of them will end up with minus numbers as their post counts |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 12:56pm
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Sorry , as the tech-tard can someone explain how I dock someone's post count please?
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 1:23pm
| Go into their profile, then take the edit option - that will bring up a list of choices including moderator functions. Click that one then you can manually adjust the post count. To zero if you are feeling mean. |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:31pm
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That lessening of post counts sounds an excellent idea - it'd certainly make post-boosters think twice before spamming through posting total drivel. I also really respect people (eg Spin Wizard) who have been on this forum a long time yet don't have an enormous post count - his posts are always contributing something, and that's what this forum should be promoting. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 10:41am
I think these new rules have got AK away from this forum, I haven't seen him post for quite some time!
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Posted By: Freddie
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 10:37am
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I know there is already a ladder system in place, but I've just come up with an idea of a ladder system if you wanted to change it in the future, the one I've done is with teams.
Here it is:
Teams Ladder System
0-25 posts = Marylebone Cricket Club
25-50 posts = Sussex
50-75 posts = New South Wales
75-100 posts = Kenya
100-150 posts = Zimbabwe
150-250 posts = Bangladesh
250-500 posts = West Indies
500-1000 posts = New Zealand
1000-2000 posts = India
2000-3000 posts = Pakistan
3000-5000 posts = England
5000-7500 posts = South Africa
7500 + posts = Australia
What do you think?
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 11:34am
| Nice idea, but I can see people getting annoyed about being portrayed as another country aside from their country of origin. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 11:47am
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How about after 10,000 posts;
10,000-10,999 - Sachin Tendulkar
11,000-11,999 - Sir Vivian Richards
12,000-12,999 - Malcom Marshall
13,000-13,999 - Shane Warne
14,000-14,999 - Sir Garfield Sobers
15,000-15,999 - Sir Donald Bradman
Something like that Bradman would be 20,000 and over though im trying to by greatest ever players but thats just a quick list name of names I don't know who is the best though...Do you????.......
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 11:50am
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Way too subjective to work. We're keeping what we've got. There's no reason to change. |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 04 January 2007 at 9:10pm
You just want that because you'll be the first to get there ------------- |