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Topic: Stump The Guru
Posted By: One Hammer
Subject: Stump The Guru
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 1:53am
Saadadvanced.
Hi m8
What about starting a stump the guru.
Someone starts with a question and when a person gets the correct answer he then takes over the guru title?
Then he posts a question and so on?
What would you reckon the chances of kicking this of are?
ps i now have a teaser for yourself!!!
How many ways can a batsman be given out and what are they?

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 2:06am

Definitely a good idea, One Hammer, I'll make this a sticky topic. So there it is people, question number 1:

How many ways can a batsman be given out and what are they?

OK, some basic rules:

  • If a question isn't answered in one week, the guru tells the answer and sets the next question.
  • You are allowed one answer per post and you have to wait for someone else to post before you can post another guess.
  • Try not to think of ridiculous, obscure questions that no-one will get - the object of this is a bit of fun, there aren't any prizes involved.


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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 2:55am
Originally posted by -JP-

Originally posted by One Hammer

Thanks JP,im now with you,I didnt see your post here before the other post,I could have put the rules question in to this as well,Sorry m8 and yes a time limit or say 10 guesses and if not the right answer by then a new question can be given? I dont know m8 what do you think i am unfamiliar with the workings on this as im in the new stage hahaha


OK, some basic rules:



  • If a question isn't answered in one week, the guru tells the answer and sets the next question.

  • You are allowed one answer per post and you have to wait for someone else to post before you can post another guess.

  • Try not to think of ridiculous, obscure questions that no-one will get - the object of this is a bit of fun, there aren't any prizes involved.

 




That sounds Excellent.
Only thing JP is if im not on when someone gets the answer
Can there be a way ,that if they are sure they have found the answer ,like in a post,they can post the correct Answer and ask a question themselves rather than wait for the timezones to cross?
I like the idea of making it not easy but also not impossible to get the answer as it is for fun .
What do you think?

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 3:00am

Yup, that idea sounds fine. So long as it's not something super obscure then post the answer (cross-reference if necessary) and post a question.

Alternatively, and this is possibly a better idea, the question setter should PM me the answer to the question so I can then answer if they're not around. Obviously this would mean I can't take part if this is done, but that's fine by me.



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 6:35am
Good idea Hammer !!

I think the answer is 9

they are - 1) Bowled
               2) Caught
               3) LBW
               4) Run Out
               5) Stumped
               6) Hit Wicket
               7) Obstructing the field
               8) Hit ball twice
               9) Timed out

   Hope this is okay , if it is , then I'll post one pretty sharpish!   

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:08am
Sorry sledger ,ive just saw your post ,and now ive lost my list hahaha,i will find it in a few minutes and see how you went.

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:19am
Originally posted by Sledger

Good idea Hammer !!

I think the answer is 9

they are - 1) Bowled
                2) Caught
                3) LBW
                4) Run Out
                5) Stumped
                6) Hit Wicket
                7) Obstructing the field
                8) Hit ball twice
                9) Timed out

   Hope this is okay , if it is , then I'll post one pretty sharpish!   


What i can say sledger is back to the drawing board mate as i can thoink of at least 2 more to your list,but i will find the definative answer,soon,you reckon i can find the bugger?hahaha,i had it and lost it again,,

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:24am
Right mate , I'll have another head scratch and see if I can find 'em !!

It's still early here and i've not really come around yet!

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:25am
Handled the ball is a 10th!!!

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:31am
Well done,and on my list it has 11 and possibly 12,but will pay 11,as the 12th has something to do with the same.Although it is in the book as a different dismissal.

That seems the only time i will get you,when you are waking up hahaha,your to good,

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:43am
Actually sledger,It is clear that it is a dismissal,or so its telling me,so there are 12 ways for the batsman to be out/or dismissed.I hope to god im reading it right hehe
So we need 2 more dismissals,i thought along the lines of a mankad or a runner would find another form of out but it wasnt to be.
Do you have mankads in Barbados or is it called something else?

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:45am
One more huh , blimey , I'll have to have a good head scratch mate!!

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:48am
I'm actually in Cape Town Hammer - I just put Barbados to keep the taxman off my back!   two to get huh.....trod on wicket ??? (I'd class that as hit wicket)

what's a mankad - he was a fine Indian batsman in my youth!!

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 8:05am
Ok in Melbourne here i have played in 2 games where the mankad dismissal has been given out,It is most likely known as something different in SA But its when a bowler comes into bowl,the non striking batsman leaves the crease as the bowler is about to release the ball,then he dont release the ball non striker is on his way half way up the pitch only to turn and see the bowler whipping of the bails at the non strikers end and waving him goodbye.
Normally the bowler will give a warning but in both games i have saw it happen there was no warning and the umpire on appeal had to give it out,it generally (well both times) has had a couple of team mates come to blows with the opposition
Im sure you have it under another name,And yes it was named after Mankad the indian as he was the first to dismiss someone with this method.


oops sorry mate,no wasnt trod on wicket.

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:08am
Okaaaaaaaaaaay!! That's a form of dismissal , but I've only been thinking about the removal of the striker!

There was an incident here in SA involving Peter Kirsten a number of years ago - he was run out for backing up too eagerly but he HAD been warned !! It still caused a major sensation with the public and in the papers though ! Personally , I had no problems him being out , he was chancing his arm!

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:17am
Can you be dismissed from the field for, say, foul and abusive language (perish the thought)? That would be a 'dismissal' of sorts.

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:22am
JP ,I would say you would get reported or something more harsh,but it isnt in the form of getting a batsman out.
a clue is the final 2 that is stated are around the same thing,but marginally different.
Both the batsman and non striker can go this way!!!!!

Good to see you back awake JP,little sleep though mate,no sleeping in the class today hahaha

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:28am
how about persistent running down the pitch Hammer? If they get warned enough , they could be dismissed for it?

I've never seen that happen - but I'm getting desparate !!

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 9:49am
No not that one buddy,
I have to take the kids to cricket training mate so what i will do is leave you with the answer as you were close as can be to it,well near enough,You will have to put the thinking cap on and post a top line question on cricket.
something other posters wont be able to resist.
Ok i will post the link to the answer as well as the answer page in case it dont let you go to link,Cheers mate and i will see you if your still on in a few hours.
Thanks for the fun Sledger,i have you in my buddy list so i will catch up again,make the question a good one bud,
Cheers


Dismissal of a batsman
For more details on this topic, see Dismissal (cricket).

A batsman is allowed to bat as long as he does not get out (also known as being dismissed). There are ten ways of being dismissed, some of which are credited as wickets to the bowler, some of which are not credited to any player. If the batsman is dismissed, another player from the batting team replaces him until ten batsmen are out and the innings is over.
DONT GET TO CARRIED AWAY AT THIS BIT SLEDGER WITH THE 10 DISMISSALS,READ ON AND YOULL FIND WHAT THEY ARE GETTING AT.


Many modes of dismissal require the wicket to be "put down". The wicket is put down if a bail is dislodged from the top of the stumps or a stump is struck out of the ground either with the ball, or by a fielder with the ball in his hand. Of the following ten modes of dismissal, the first six are common, while the last four are technicalities which rarely occur. Briefly, the ten modes are:
Caught — When a fielder catches the ball before the ball bounces and after the batsman has struck it with the bat or it has come into contact with the batsman's glove while it is in contact with the bat handle. The bowler and catcher are both credited.
Bowled — When a delivered ball hits the stumps at the batsman's end, and dislodges one or both of the bails. This happens regardless of whether the batsman has edged the ball onto the stumps or not. The bowler is credited with the dismissal.
Leg before wicket (LBW) — When a delivered ball misses the bat and strikes the batsman's leg or pad, and the umpire judges that the ball would otherwise have struck the stumps. The laws of cricket stipulate certain exceptions in favour of the batsman; for instance, a batsman should not be given out LBW if the place where the ball bounced on the pitch is to the leg-side of the area strictly between the two wickets. The bowler is credited with the dismissal.
Run out — When a fielder, bowler or wicket-keeper removes one or both of the bails with the ball by hitting the stumps whilst a batsman is still running between the two ends. The ball can either hit the stumps directly or the fielder's hand with the ball inside it can be used to dislodge the bails. Such a dismissal is not officially credited to any player, although the identities of the fielder or fielders involved is often noted in brackets on the scorecard.
Stumped — When the batsman leaves his crease in playing a delivery, voluntarily or involuntarily, but the ball goes to the wicket-keeper who uses it to remove one or both of the bails through hitting the bail(s) or the wicket before the batsman has remade his ground. The bowler and wicket-keeper are both credited.
Hit wicket — When the batsman accidentally knocks the stumps with either the body or the bat, causing one or both of the bails to be dislodged, either in playing a shot or in taking off for the first run. The bowler is credited with the dismissal.
Handled the ball — When the batsman deliberately handles the ball without the permission of the fielding team. No player is credited with the dismissal.
Hit the ball twice — When the batsman deliberately strikes the ball a second time, except for the sole purpose of guarding his wicket. No player is credited with the dismissal.
Obstructing the field — When a batsman deliberately hinders a fielder from attempting to field the ball. No player is credited with the dismissal.
Timed out — When a new batsman takes more than three minutes to appear on the field to replace a dismissed batsman. (If the delay is even more protracted, the umpires may cause the match to be forfeited.) No player is credited with the dismissal.

Additionally, a batsman may leave the field undismissed. For instance, if he is ill or injured, this is known as retired hurt or retired ill. The batsman is not out; he may return to bat later in the same innings if sufficiently recovered. Also, an unimpaired batsman may retire, in which case he is treated as being dismissed retired out; no player is credited with the dismissal.

link   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket

this was the missing part of dismissals

Additionally, a batsman may leave the field undismissed. For instance, if he is ill or injured, this is known as retired hurt or retired ill. The batsman is not out; he may return to bat later in the same innings if sufficiently recovered. Also, an unimpaired batsman may retire, in which case he is treated as being dismissed retired out; no player is credited with the dismissal.

I was originally saying they both were the same but on closer reading it not.
You can retire injured or ill and comeback to bat later,but and they have no history of this as it says,a batsman can just retire and on doing this he is classified as out,why someone would do that?god knows but the rule is there ,you would most likely say your feeling ill and come back if needed,Maybe in a ODI and a team are chasing say 200 to win and are 1 for 170 in 25 th over and someone wants a teammate to have a hit and get the eye in ,i suppose it could happen but i dont think we will see that in our time.Although the rule is there mate,so we have 12 forms of getting out..
They arent as easy as first thought are they?
The mankading situation must just go down as run out or stumped hey?

Ok cheers mate talk soon,,,,




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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 10:25am
Bloody hell !! You can tell the rules of cricket were made by the old gits at Lords !!!


I must put on my deviously sinister thinking cap and come up with something hideous!!

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 11:11am
You're right One Hammer, mankading is recorded as 'run out'.

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 11:44am

An important thing to know about retiring is that "Retired Hurt" counts as "Not Out" so it doesn't muck up your average, whereas "Retired Out" definitely does.

 

 



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 2:17pm
You're the man Swerve !!! Can you post a viscious one - I'm working here!!

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 3:43pm

I'm working too, but the boss isn't here today!

How about this for a start:

It's getting towards the end of the innings, and one of the batsmen (Jim) is well in and is having a wonderful time.  On the last ball of the over, he hits the ball quite well, but it stops short of the boundary. 

The batsmen have crossed for the third run, and the fielder realises that three runs will put Jim on strike for the last over of the match, so he kicks the ball over the boundary.

How many runs are scored, and who is on strike at the start of the next over?

 



Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 3:46pm
It is four runs only, and Jim's partner is on strike. 


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:03pm
Wrong.


Posted By: moongoat
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:06pm
7, counts as 4 overthrows plus the three


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by swerveman

How many runs are scored, and who is on strike at the start of the next over?

 



Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:11pm
so it is seven runs, and Jim is on strike?


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:18pm

Absolutely correct.

It all hinges on the fielder's act being deliberate.  If it had been accidental, you would have been right the first time (normal boundary, batsmen return to where they started).

Law 18.6. Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

If the boundary results either from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder the runs scored shall be

(i) the penalty for a No ball or a Wide, if applicable, together with any penalties under either of Laws 18.5(b) (Deliberate short runs) or 42 (Fair and unfair play) that are applicable before the boundary is scored
and (ii) the allowance for the boundary
and (iii) the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they have crossed at the instant of the throw or act.

Law 18.12(a) (Batsman returning to wicket he has left) shall apply as from the instant of the throw or act.

 

Law 18.12. Batsman returning to wicket he has left

(a) If, while the ball is in play, the batsmen have crossed in running, neither shall return to the wicket he has left, except as in (b) below.

(b) The batsmen shall return to the wickets they originally left in the cases of, and only in the cases of
(i) a boundary;
(ii) disallowance of runs for any reason;
(iii) the dismissal of a batsman, except as in 9(b) above.

 

That was obviously far too easy!  Now it's your turn.

 



Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:30pm
Is it possible to not concede any runs, but at the same time not bowl any maidens?


Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:33pm
Yes, by not bowling any overs.  Couldn't resist that one, sorry!

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Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:34pm
yeah, not the answer I was looking for. Perhaps my phrasing of the question is a little ambigious!


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:35pm
It depends on your definition of "Runs".  You can bowl wides and no-balls but not concede any runs off the bat.


Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:43pm
yep, but wides are attributed against the bowler.

Can a bowler have figures like 10 overs 0 maidens 0 runs 2 wickets?



Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:50pm

I look forward to finding out!

I'm going home.

 



Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 5:34pm

 Maiden - An over where no runs that are attributable to the bowler are scored (byes or leg-byes may be scored in this over, though, as these don't count against the bowler)

 Maiden over : an over in which no runs are scored, and no wides or no balls are bowled.

It is therefore impossible to not concede any runs, and at the same time not bowl any maidens.



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Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 5:38pm
Good going Kruppel. Byes and Leg Byes may be conceded in an over, but it is only no-balls, runs off the bat, or wides which go against the bowler.

It is perceivably possible that after 10 overs, there could have been ten maidens, but the score could be on 50, all from byes or leg-byes.


Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 5:39pm
Your turn to post a question



Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 5:48pm

i remembering watching the super series, and during one of the one day games,i am not sure who the player was, a run out occured. The question was weather the bails had to lift clear from the wickets.

What is the rule?When does a run out occur?when the bail completely lifts from the wickets,or when the bails fall on the ground?Or is it when the bail is lifted marginally?



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by One Hammer

Saadadvanced.
Hi m8
What about starting a stump the guru.
Someone starts with a question and when a person gets the correct answer he then takes over the guru title?
Then he posts a question and so on?
What would you reckon the chances of kicking this of are?
ps i now have a teaser for yourself!!!
How many ways can a batsman be given out and what are they?


is there any reason for why this was specifically regarded to me (not that i mind or anything, just curious).

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 7:24pm
the answer to the question is when the bail is lifted marginally.

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 10:09pm

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Originally posted by One Hammer

Saadadvanced.
Hi m8
What about starting a stump the guru.
Someone starts with a question and when a person gets the correct answer he then takes over the guru title?
Then he posts a question and so on?
What would you reckon the chances of kicking this of are?
ps i now have a teaser for yourself!!!
How many ways can a batsman be given out and what are they?


is there any reason for why this was specifically regarded to me (not that i mind or anything, just curious).

Because originally One Hammer posted it as a response to one of your posts. I moved it, creating a new topic but was unable to edit out what he'd written. Hope that clears things up.



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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 26 October 2005 at 11:47pm

Originally posted by Wolfman


Can a bowler have figures like 10 overs 0 maidens 0 runs 2 wickets?

So the answer to this question is "No".

 

 



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 12:13am
Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Originally posted by One Hammer

Saadadvanced.
Hi m8
What about starting a stump the guru.
Someone starts with a question and when a person gets the correct answer he then takes over the guru title?
Then he posts a question and so on?
What would you reckon the chances of kicking this of are?
ps i now have a teaser for yourself!!!
How many ways can a batsman be given out and what are they?


is there any reason for why this was specifically regarded to me (not that i mind or anything, just curious).


well, thanks JP.





PS. nobody told me if my answer is correct to the question regarding the run out.

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:00am
Thanks for clearing that up JP.
The thread was left without a question....
Can we make a ruling if someone comes on and there is no Question asked they can leave a question?
Just so the thread dosnt die to quickly.
May i now enforce that ruling please?

Please can you help to solve an ongoing dispute at my cricket club. Obviously the laws state that a batsman should not be given out lbw if the ball pitches outside the line of leg stump. However, if the batsman is hit on the full toss outside the line of leg stump, and the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps, should he be given out?

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:00am

No, he shouldn't be given out.  The ball has still pitched outside the line of leg stump, even though it's pitched on his foot.

 



Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:26am

We haven't actually confirmed or otherwise the response to Kruppel's question:

i remembering watching the super series, and during one of the one day games,i am not sure who the player was, a run out occured. The question was weather the bails had to lift clear from the wickets.

What is the rule?When does a run out occur?when the bail completely lifts from the wickets,or when the bails fall on the ground?Or is it when the bail is lifted marginally?

 



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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:28am

Law 28 (The wicket is down)

1. Wicket put down
(a) The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground by
(i) the ball.
(ii) the striker's bat, whether he is holding it or has let go of it.
(iii) the striker's person or by any part of his clothing or equipment becoming detached from his person.
(iv) a fielder, with his hand or arm, providing that the ball is held in the hand or hands so used, or in the hand of the arm so used.
The wicket is also put down if a fielder pulls a stump out of the ground in the same manner.

(b) The disturbance of a bail, whether temporary or not, shall not constitute its complete removal from the top of the stumps, but if a bail in falling lodges between two of the stumps this shall be regarded as complete removal.

 



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 10:19am
Originally posted by swerveman

No, he shouldn't be given out. The ball has still pitched outside the line of leg stump, even though it's pitched on his foot.




Hammer pm'd me the answer swerve - and you're spot on as usual !!

The ball must be bowled wicket to wicket or outside off to get an LBW - it doesn't matter if it pitches or not , if it's outside leg , it's outside leg!

   Your turn to set one Guru !

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:15am

OK, I don't have much time, so here's a simple one:

 

The Law now states that the toss must take place between certain times.

(a) What are these times?
(b) Where should this toss take place?

 



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 1:36pm
the toss is suppose to take place on the pitch.the time is right before the match .

I hope i'm right

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Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 1:51pm
The captains shall toss for the choice of innings on the field of play not earlier than 30 minutes,nor later than 15 minutes befor the scheduled or any rescheduled time for the start of play - Law 12 (innings)

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Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:02pm
Due to the fact that the ICC is trying to stop time-wasting in matches,they have imposed a law that the match referee may ban the captain for slow overrates.

How is it determined that the over rate of the team is slow(how is it calculated),and what is the maximum suspenion that can be imposed on a captain?And do the match referee take into account circumstances like the batting team wasting time,and is the captain allowed to appeal the suspension?


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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:20pm

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

the toss is suppose to take place on the pitch.the time is right before the match .

I hope i'm right

Well, Kruppel got it right.  The law states that the toss shall take place on the field of play.  The captains still seem to like doing it on the pitch.

 



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 2:21pm
Kruppel , are you an accountant , cos that just has to be THE most boring question I've ever se..............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz

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Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:59pm
Kruppel, you sound like a lawyer!


Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 9:46pm
Sledger,why do you think u can question other people's intellectual capability's? I was merely trying to enlighten the mental aspect of your life.Can u tell me the answer to my question not by asking me another question?

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 11:16pm

Originally posted by Kruppel

Due to the fact that the ICC is trying to stop time-wasting in matches,they have imposed a law that the match referee may ban the captain for slow overrates.

How is it determined that the over rate of the team is slow(how is it calculated),and what is the maximum suspenion that can be imposed on a captain?And do the match referee take into account circumstances like the batting team wasting time,and is the captain allowed to appeal the suspension?

The answers are all contained in this document:

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/rules/code-of-conduct-for-players-and-officials.pdf - http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/rules/code-of-conduct-for-pla yers-and-officials.pdf

The calculation is too lengthy to post here;  it's in Section J of the document.

The maximum ban is one Test Match or two ODIs.  The match referee can take time wasting by the batting side into account, and the captain has a right to appeal.

Sorry, chaps.  I quite like the legal stuff! 

 



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 7:22am
Originally posted by Kruppel

Sledger,why do you think u can question other people's intellectual
capability's? I was merely trying to enlighten the mental aspect of
your life.Can u tell me the answer to my question not by asking me
another question?


I didn't question your intellectual capability at all Kruppel , you are a sensitive soul aren't you.

Don't try and enlighten the mental aspect of MY life , I do that in more ways than you could possibly know and NONE of them involve researching the dazzling world of your subject matter.

Lastly , no , I won't answer your inane question , as I'm far too busy splitting the atom and developing the perfect cup of tea.

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Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 2:30pm
Sledger,this is a "Stump the Guru" posting, where people answer questions,and then get a turn to ask a question yourself.So if u don't answer the question,keep your opinion to yourself.


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Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:25pm
Kruppel, hows your hand? I understand you broke it in a fight, and your housemate before the previous one had to save you?


Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 5:31pm

Originally posted by Kruppel

Sledger,this is a "Stump the Guru" posting, where people answer questions,and then get a turn to ask a question yourself.So if u don't answer the question,keep your opinion to yourself.

He almost makes a good point here. If you want to have a slanging match with each other, fine, but conduct it in private - PMs, or preferably MSN or down the pub.

Originally posted by Wolfman

Kruppel, hows your hand? I understand you broke it in a fight, and your housemate before the previous one had to save you?

Sounds like another one that could be a PM. Unless of course, this is the next entry in 'Stump The Guru' in which case I'd guess his hand his okay as he's clearly able to type. No idea about the housemate though.



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 October 2005 at 8:51pm
kruppel didn't mention that he broke his hand. i am so confused.

anyway, can someone just ask a question or i will.

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 1:05am

Go on then, Saad.  Ask us a good one.

 

 



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 1:10am
i don't know any good question so i'm just going to ask this one; out of all the ODI matches australia has played how many ODI matches have been tied (scores) and how many of their matches have been no results?

sorry if the question is too easy.

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Posted By: Kruppel
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 8:12am
Wolfman,would u kindly read my posting: "This is a "Stump the Guru posting,where people answer questions,and then get a turn to ask a question yourself. So if u don't answer the question,keep your opinion to yourself".

As for your posting: Yes,I broke my hand,saving my housemate before the previous one(Adriaan) from thiefs who tied him to a chair.





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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 9:25pm

Well, Saad, it looks as though it's just you and me, just for now.

My information is that Australia's overall ODI performance is as follows:

   P   W   L  T  NR
 603 366 212  8  17

Anyone have any different ideas?

 

 



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 12:25am
they have actually played 606, won 363, and lost 218 but that was not my question. your answer to my question is right!

your turn to ask a question.

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 7:58pm

OK, I know this really happened, because I trust the bloke who told me!

The striker skies the ball, and the batsmen start running.  They haven't crossed on the second run, when the ball comes down a few feet in front of the wicket and spins back, breaking the wicket.

Is the striker out, or the non-striker? How is he out, and how many runs are scored?

 

 



Posted By: GingerPrince
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 8:13pm
The striker is out hit wicket,there are no runs scored!
Thats what i think

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 9:07pm

Nope!

 



Posted By: Wolfman
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 9:11pm
If they have crossed for one run, and as long as no fielder has touched the ball, no one is out, and it is one run to the batsman that hit the ball. 


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 9:36pm

Afraid not! 

 



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 4:39am
the non-striker is out because the first run had already hapened and they hadn't crossed for the second run. one run is scored.

i hope i'm right

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 7:22am
Originally posted by swerveman

OK, I know this really happened, because I trust the bloke who told me!


The striker skies the ball, and the batsmen start running. They haven't crossed on the second run, when the ball comes down a few feet in front of the wicket and spins back, breaking the wicket.


Is the striker out, or the non-striker? How is he out, and how many runs are scored?





Swerve , if the wicket broken was that at the striker's end then I'd say he was out bowled and no runs are scored. If the wicket broken was the nonstrikers then to effect a run out a fielder will have to place the ball to a stump and lift it out - the batting side would then score a single.

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 9:25am

Sledger, that's 200% correct!  I was only looking for the case where the striker's wicket is broken, and you're absolutely right there, but you're also right for the case where the non-striker's wicket is broken.

Congratulations!

 



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 10:04am
Thanks Swerve , nice poser ! I'm off for lunch now , but I'll think of a question to post for when I return.

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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 9:30pm
Sledger, that's a mighty long lunch break!  


Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 11:20pm
Sledger you will be about the size of a house by now at your lunch,or you will know every cricket stat in the world as m8 that is without a doubt the longest lunch in history
Late edit here::: i found a post that sledger is attempting to split an atom and invent a gr8 cuppa tea,hahaha no wonder he has taken so long to return

Can i post a question on behalf of Sledger,i think he got caught up in the Sa V Nz win,hahaha
Also for saad and others who are struggling to get a question here is a good site to get a question from.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_talk/stump_bearders/4 349518.stm
Down the bottom of the questions and answers is a bit that says in this section,click the drop down and youll go to more question and ans,

Ok on behalf of Sledger may i ask this.

A bit of a change from the normal here,this is the answer i want to know the question,or more to the point what do all these 16 players below have in common that has promted this question?
MC Cowdrey , KS Duleepsinhji , GM Emmett , ERT Holmes , N Hussain , RD Jackman , JA Jameson , DR Jardine , NS Mitchell-Innes , Nawab of Pataudi, sr , MM Patel , KS Ranjitsinhji , NC Tufnell , RA Woolmer , EG Wynyard and RA Young .

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 11:36pm
All born in India and went on to play for England?

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:37am
Well done JP,I didnt think that question would last long.
Comeon m8 your go,We have a public holiday here in Australia for the Melbourne cup horse race,and Sledger will be happy to know ive backed a horse called Greys Inn ,it has been brought over from SA for the race,its paying 50 odd dollars so its a bit rough but not the roughest,Anyway thats just letting you know we all have the day off for the horse race so ive all day to find your answer HAHA
Come on JP give us a gooden.

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:43am

OK, this one might take a bit of getting:

Before his appearance in the 5th Test against Australia, Paul Collingwood had taken the same number of wickets for the same amount of runs as which other centrally contracted England player?



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Posted By: Superbokkie
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:08am

JP, I have the answer. Before the 5th test against Australia, Paul Collingwood had taken 0 wickets for 37 runs.

Graham Thorpe possesses 0 wickets for 37 runs.



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JH Kallis is the only player in history to have 8000 runs, 200 wickets and 100 catches in BOTH forms of the game. Only Sobers (tests) and Jayasuriya (one dayers) have achieved half that feat.


Posted By: Superbokkie
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:15am

And seeing as I know I'm right, I will Play Stump the Guru next. This is a very tough question and I'd like to see if anyone can get it.

At one point in time Jacques Kallis and Ricky Ponting had a difference of 1 run between them in test batting, with almost identical averages.

Who can tell me which one was leading by 1 run, how many runs he had and how many matches the pair had played at that time.

Just so you know, Kallis is currently leading by 11 runs.



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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:22am
16 overs 0 for 37...but cant quite find who has the same total,looking for non bowler.i will keep at it though

Gee,sorry bokkie m8,i didnt hit the refresh button before posting,ah i was just about to say him,hahaha,couldnt find him for the life of me,but now ill look for the new one<

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:30am

Ponting was leading by one run (6657 to 6656) in 2004/5 and they'd both played 85 games.



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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:43am
85 143 23 6656 189* 55.46 19 34 7    66 3 3rd Test v Eng 2004/05 [1732]
85 138 18 6657 257   55.47 21 26 7     4* 4 3rd Test v Pak 2004/05 [1731]

ArgHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you beat me by a whisker JP,
well done,i am sure you are right im positive your right,your question againm8,how remarkable is the Kallis /Ponting batting and average naer indebnticle through the years ,amazing,gee he is some player Kallis,considering he was a bowler of note as well.



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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:51am

OK, I think is quite tough, but I need to go to bed so it might take you all night to get it...

Name the 7 Australian Test captains who never won a match whilst captain.



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Posted By: moongoat
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 9:49am

horan, scott,bardsley,lindwall,booth,jarman,morris.  knew 4 but had to find rest!! good poser

 



Posted By: moongoat
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:18am
here's one for you. bizarre at that!! when, how and why did fried calamari stop play? unusual one this and i'm pretty sure it has only happened once. good luck


Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:12pm
Moongoat, Who did Fried Callamari play for?
I bet he was all at sea against the spinners.They say he was troubled by a good line and a weighted delivery,
No doubt he ran rings around them in the end though,he said the bowling was crummy,but it came in waves and he fell for it hook line and sinker,hahaha what a corny joke teller i am,,,,,,good question,this will have us all thinking for a while,Dont post the answer as it is these ones that are the best ones to try and get.If no answer its not because noone is reading or trying its cause we cant yet find the answer hahaha,

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Posted By: moongoat
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:24pm
something very fishy with this reply hammer, this is not the plaice for jokes, get your skates on and let's sea how well you do. don't get crabby if you don't get it strait away, keep trying chum!


Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:28pm

I've found the answer, but I'm not going to post it until you stop making silly jokes!

 



Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:20pm

OK, it was during a South African domestic match at Paarl, in February 1995.

Daryll Cullinan hit a six into a frying pan full of calamari.  It was about ten minutes before the ball was cool enough to remove the grease.  Even then, the bowler was unable to grip the ball, and it was replaced.

I don't know who finally ate the ball.

 



Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 9:51pm

Right, here's a picture of a famous confrontation:

Who are the people involved, and where and when did the incident take place?

 



Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 12:38am
Off the top of my head, that's Mike Gatting and Shakoor Rana, 1987 - the location is....Faisalabad?

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 1:41am
i was going to write that but you got it before me.

i've read about this incident in a book and i knew who the 2 guys were but i didn't remember the location so i was going to read the book and find the location.

-JP-, it seems you're not sure of the location but i checked in my book and you're right, it is faisalabad.

so your answer is correct.

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Posted By: One Hammer
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 2:00am
Need a question posted please,Jp or merv,or anyone?

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 2:04am
OK, how many times has Sachin Tendulkar been named Man of the match in ODIs?

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