Best Test Opener At The Present Time
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Topic: Best Test Opener At The Present Time
Posted By: Matthew Hayden9
Subject: Best Test Opener At The Present Time
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 6:02am
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Posted By: THE CHAMP
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 6:38am
For me I say Langer he has been great for Australia and what a way to finish his career with a 5 nil Ashes white wash you cant get much better then that
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 10:48am
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don't the West Indies play Test cricket any more then?
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 12:10pm
Just noticed that Gayle isn't on there, and who on earth is jamie how???
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 12:10pm
Posted By: prasmp
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 2:21pm
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wasim jaffer is the best opener playing now.he got hundreds against england,west indies,south africa.he is very consistant for an opener.he is better than hafeez,farhat,jamie how.
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Posted By: Vipera russelli
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 2:42pm
Where's Chris Gayle? I did not hear his retirement.
Shariar Nafees from BAN is also better in tests than some like Jayasuriya or Sehwag on current form.
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Posted By: Matthew Hayden9
Date Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:15pm
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thankyou for the help next time i will put them in
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 6:11am
When starting a thread it's expected that you'll have some
comments of your own - if you don't , then they usually get closed
pretty quickly. I'm still thinking about that!
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 1:58pm
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It's Alastair Cook my cat's whisker over Hayden. Don't know why you's are considering Gayle his highest score is 91 or something for the whole of 2006 and averaged only 39.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 10:46pm
Virender Sehwag without a doubt.
Actually I would go for Graeme Smith because I think that he was the best of the lot last year.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt.
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SEHWAG!? He's in terrible form, and I don't think he'll ever get back into form. I mean, his bowling looks a lot better then his batting now.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by RightHandBat
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt.
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SEHWAG!? He's in terrible form, and I don't think he'll ever get back into form. I mean, his bowling looks a lot better then his batting now.
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Everyone has bad form, you should think to the future and realise he will be good in a few months. Maybe you are unable to do that though..
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Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 5:35pm
I doubt a few months are going to sort out Sehwag's problems, his technique has fallen to pieces and he doesnt seem to be putting any effort in.
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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 7:58pm
He might come back into form, but he just looks so bad at the moment
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 8:17pm
Langer and Hayden are the best at the moment. Can't really see no others!
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Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 8:17pm
Sehwag can't be the best opener right now, whoever says must Sehwag must be high. Even tailenders are better than him.
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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 6:35am
Originally posted by 70_degree_spin
Originally posted by RightHandBat
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt.
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SEHWAG!? He's in terrible form, and I don't think he'll ever get back into form. I mean, his bowling looks a lot better then his batting now.
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Everyone has bad form, you should think to the future and realise he will be good in a few months. Maybe you are unable to do that though..
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Hmm, no half-centuries for 60 odd ODI matches?
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 9:09am
the whole point of the thread is AT THE PRESENT TIME - not "should he happen to rediscover his form somewhere down the line".
Langer isn't a Test opener any more either so doesn't belong in the poll.
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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 10:30am
Originally posted by 70_degree_spin
Originally posted by RightHandBat
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt.
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SEHWAG!? He's in terrible form, and I don't think he'll ever get back into form. I mean, his bowling looks a lot better then his batting now.
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Everyone has bad form, you should think to the future and realise he will be good in a few months. Maybe you are unable to do that though..
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If you do manage to see into the future RHB, could you please let me know next saturday's lotto results please.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt. . |
Do you want me to believe that ?
Dont ever make me because i wont . 
Hayden is the best at the moment surely .
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by dips_december
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt. . |
Do you want me to believe that ?
Dont ever make me because i wont . 
Hayden is the best at the moment surely . |
No, he wants you to kick his butts actually
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 3:24pm
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Darren Ganga has had a successful test year in 2006 I reckon he's pretty close to best at present but Hayden & Cook still beat him.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 4:54pm
To be honest, there arent many decent openers anymore. Hayden probably edges it and I trust that Sehwag will come back soon after maybe a year or so off? He should play more domestic stuff, get his confidence back, get some intensive training done and then return.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 6:12pm
Sehwag's sweat spots have been spotted by the bowlers, pretty big technical flaw, isn't it. I mean you cann't be serious to face the express bowling with your bat and pad miles apart. He doesn't have a extraordinarily eye either and even if he does, it's eclipsed.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 6:16pm
And by the way, Chris Gayle deserves to be on the list.
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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 9:47pm
Chris Gayle for me definately.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 18 January 2007 at 3:45am
Originally posted by shan
Originally posted by dips_december
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Virender Sehwag without a doubt. . |
Do you want me to believe that ?
Dont ever make me because i wont . 
Hayden is the best at the moment surely . |
No, he wants you to kick his butts actually |
Ill be happy to give him atleast a dozen!
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 19 January 2007 at 2:06am
Chrs Gayle???? You guys can't be serious!!
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Posted By: Matthew Hayden9
Date Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:26am
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thanks for the opinions am keep them comin with the votes
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Posted By: burmesedays
Date Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:31pm
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He would not be my choice for sure, but if How, Farhat and Hafeez make the list, then Chris Gayle must be there.
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Posted By: Tom_da_Cat
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:22am
I voted Mat Hayden.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 8:40am
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I can't believe the lack of decent openers in world cricket.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 1:48pm
Not really the lack, just mean a lot of them are out of form. Sehwag, Smith - well until recently - De Villers, Cook, Strauss are all good players but are struggling at the moment.
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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 5:17am
When you look for a test opener, you want a solid defence, consistancy, and confidence, so to my mind only one player who had everything was justin langer, all others have been corrupted by shorter version tend to play a shots too many and unnecessarily. Cook and strauss probably will come after him but they have a lack of consistancy and seen them unnerved by quick bowlers!
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 5:57am
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There is a lack or quality best openers in comparison to previous decades. In saying that we are going through a new era in cricket. So come on Alister Cook.
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Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 3:06pm
For some months I have argued with you on many things, mainly Bond vs Lee but I agree totally here. I am fine putting together a world XI from 3-11 but two openers I struggle to find. Look back to the 90's, 80's etc, they were numerous but today the fact that Hayden is probably the pick is not good.
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Posted By: Ricky Ponting
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 8:46am
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 9:04am
Are you serious? Your bias is unbelievable! Langer has retired for one! Secondly Hayden has only been performing recently in the one day era. I still maintain that no opener has performed well lately and this thread should be scratched until someone does!
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Posted By: Ricky Ponting
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 9:27am
being retired don't mean a thing opening is very challenging, so I wouldn't expet openers to do as well as over batsmen
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 9:43am
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If you look extra carefully you will notice that the thread is a 'present time' thread meaning players that are currently playing. Langer has retired meaning he is not a current player.
Your grammer makes it hard to understand your point also. You mean other batsman? I doubt Hayden agrees with you. A couple of years ago he was making batting look a lot easier than the likes of Ponting and Martyn.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 10:13am
Save your breath Bondy , he's had 21 posts to date and all a waste of time.
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Posted By: Ricky Ponting
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 10:16am
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his in the poll so I would think I can vote for him does that make sense?
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 10:20am
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I'm going to take Sledger's advise.
Your choice as to who you vote for.
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Posted By: Bettis91
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 8:38pm
Hayden most be one of the best openers ever for both test and one day
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:54pm
Don't let form cloud your mind or stats for the matter.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 11:56pm
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Considering the thread says 'present', then I'd be inclined to agree.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 12:10am
He said one of the best openers ever
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Posted By: Bettis91
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 3:51pm
thank you
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Posted By: Jacob Oram Fan
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 6:09pm
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Graem Smith, always has been and always will be.
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Posted By: Colly92
Date Posted: 29 June 2008 at 12:36pm
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Verendar Sehwags got to be right up their. He's an exalent attacking batsmen. I don't know about Hayden, I've seen many times when he worked so hard to survive the opening pase attack, That he looses concentration and ends up edging the ball to the slips or the WK, In his 20's.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 29 June 2008 at 6:20pm
That's Hayden's style and it works so no need fussing about it when it doesn't pay off.
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Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 29 June 2008 at 11:30pm
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Hayden is definitely my favourite, the walk down the pitch is second to none!
Apart from him, I'd be inclined to mention someone like Cook or Smith.
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Posted By: jaysjay
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 10:59pm
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Virender sehwag , his last ten test centuries have been 150 plus scores, two triple centuries,fastest triple century against a decent attack ,excellent average ,good performance against good attacks,hes the most special batsmen at the moment as its amazing how much does he dominate a score card of india when he plays well ,FANTASTIC in every sence of the word,
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Posted By: mystery
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 11:18pm
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Sehwag is a world class player but i dont think he is reliable so for me Hayden is the best test opener at present time.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 12:39am
I thought you were banned?
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 1:45am
Ok, what's the deal here? You folks trying to rub salt in the wound for Pakistan not having any decent openers. You should've spared us from this torture by not including any opener from the Pakistan team. Especially not him...ugghhh...Farhat, anyone but him.
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Posted By: kirankri
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 5:26am
Originally posted by bondy
I thought you were banned? |
Even I thought so. He is back to (this) form.
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Posted By: zuhair_abbasi
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 6:50am
Got to be hayden currently. But i will not too far to rate him the best ever!!
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Posted By: mystery
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 9:19am
Originally posted by kirankri
Originally posted by bondy
I thought you were banned? |
Even I thought so. He is back to (this) form. |
I was in Lahore.
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Posted By: bladescape
Date Posted: 17 July 2008 at 3:12am
Sehwag,Smith or Hayden.
Take your pick.
I think that there are no really good openers at the current time but they really top the rest of them.
Sehwag:because I love to see him when he really blows an attack appart.
Hayden:cause he is quite sollid and can be explosive as well.
Smith:cause he just sits there and becomes hard to move,like a wall.
Though Jayasuria is good as well.
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Posted By: Colly92
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by bladescape
Hayden:cause he is quite sollid and can be explosive as well.
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He's not proving that point at the moment, is he? He's playing poorly against India of late. I suppose he still generally makes a very good opener though, By the way he bats eg He has got a good defence and I have seen him attack well too.
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Posted By: bladescape
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 11:57am
Thats because he is out of form.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 5:41am
Maybe it has something to do with Asad Rauf.
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 9:10am
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Well he has had a long lay off. I think he needs some time to get back into the groove. And Rauf has not helped his cause.
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Posted By: BanglaMagic
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 10:39am
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Id say Virender Sehwag is currently the best opening batsman...
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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 12:52pm
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Yea Gambhir, Sehwag and Smith all going great guns at present.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 2:31pm
Sehwag and Gambhir for sure!
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Posted By: Big_B
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 2:43pm
Looking at the current form of the players, G.Smith and G.Gambhir will be the best opening pair
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Posted By: paddlesweep
Date Posted: 01 March 2009 at 7:40pm
the best opener is Gautam Gambhir
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 12:30pm
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I dare say Katich, although being an Aussie I'm slightly bias. Smith, Katich and Gambhir are all in tremendous touch.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:17am
Andrew Strauss is back as well mate !
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:20am
Yer, right in time for the Ashes, damnit !!
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Posted By: zuhair_abbasi
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:37am
If Cook also gets back to his best or anywhere near to it, it is going to be a wonderful contest
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 8:32am
It'd be just the ticket. I just wish one of them was a right hander.
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Posted By: zuhair_abbasi
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 12:20pm
Be happy that none is!!! Right handed Cook would have been Johnson's bunny
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 3:36pm
I expect Johnson will target some of them pommie's ribs! Anyhow, Gautam Gambhir will get my pick for top opener at the moment. Wonderful against pace and spin!
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 3:37pm
Mitch broke Smith's hand twice. Smith is a left hander...
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Posted By: MalhotraRaj84
Date Posted: 16 April 2009 at 4:33pm
atm Gambhir,Smith and Shewag in the same order.Very had to pick anyone as best.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 7:31am
Originally posted by milkman
Mitch broke Smith's hand twice. Smith is a left hander...
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Indeed he did. I just hope he doesn't break my heart!
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Posted By: zuhair_abbasi
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 7:51am
English team wont disappoint you on this account Sledge
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 2:44pm
True Zuhair, Sledger has a lot to be grateful for of this English team. When I was growing up, they got mauled left right and centre. Not so nowadays, well, at least not in the longer format. 
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 17 April 2009 at 2:48pm
'Ave we been watching the same team boys!!
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Posted By: bladescape
Date Posted: 18 April 2009 at 2:32am
I'm not sure!
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 1:26pm
Andy Flower will toughen 'em up ! They'll be no nancy boys in the side that faces the Windies in the 1st test fellas.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 20 April 2009 at 2:11pm
Haha, funny you have to mention the word 'nancy'. There's a lad by the nickname of Nancy back here in one of the teams I play with and he's probably the best character of the lot. He brings a real good laugh to the team - not a bad person to have around!
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 6:47am
Lots of comedians within the England set up too SW - it's just a shame that they're not supposed to be !
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Posted By: cricket_village
Date Posted: 28 May 2009 at 8:07pm
Virendra Sehwag. He is most destructive player if he get goings. Just look at his stats whenever he get pass 50 runs in test, he went onto score 150 plus runs.
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Posted By: punterrulz
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 6:37am
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Yes sehwag must be the best. No fear of losing his wicket and an incredible dude if he gets going. One of only 3 players to score two triple centuries and thats quite an achievement.
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 29 November 2009 at 4:14pm
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If he gets going. Hasn't gotten going too much recently.
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Posted By: MalhotraRaj84
Date Posted: 29 November 2009 at 4:25pm
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2008-2009 season it's undoubtedly Gambhir.
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 29 November 2009 at 8:08pm
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 30 November 2009 at 12:13am
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Forgot about him but still 7 hundreds in 9 Tests with some in different situations and the Test Player of the Year Award show that Gambhir is probably the best opener at the moment. Followed by Strauss though.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 30 November 2009 at 12:49pm
Strauss' form has been amazing, he looks so easy at the crease and not bothered at all by the bowling. His footworks has been pretty good!
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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 30 November 2009 at 9:15pm
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I guess considering the pressure on him especially without Pietersen and with captaincy, he has handled it very well. Gambhir, on the other hand, has a bunch of legends to rely on but its always better to start your career like that. Top two at the moment.
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 12:04am
Katich hasn't been too bad either, very consistent.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 12:32pm
Yeah, Katich has been Aussie main stay lately! Made a terrific century against the Kiwis at the Gabba last year I think and Southee was really moving the ball around.
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Posted By: milkman
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 12:38pm
He's been very consistent Katich, not in the same breadth as Strauss and Gambhir, but right up there and at the moment ahead of the likes of Sehwag and Smith.
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Posted By: mystery
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 3:59pm
Problem with Katman is that he gets alot of starts but fails to go on to make big ones thats why Gambhir and Strauss are ahead of him.
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Posted By: punterrulz
Date Posted: 05 December 2009 at 11:09am
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Katman? hhhmmm consistent. Gambhir has to be up there. Strauss? hes there or there abouts. Smith? well smith produces the goods but not quite often enough although he usually leaves his best work for england. Id go for mt sehwag simply due to his monster scores. Such a pity he didn't get his third triple.
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