Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire
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Topic: Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire
Posted By: Clobber
Subject: Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 5:14pm
I have to say I am utterly bemused by the news that Rudolph has signed a 3 year contract with Yorkshire as a Kolpak player.
As I understand the ruling the player must either not have played for at least 12 months at First Class level or higher (which Rudolph has, having played a Test as recently as August), or give up playing as a domestic player in his own country. Given that Rudolph has signed for Yorks after negotiations with the SA cricket board, who give their full support with a view to the player developing from the experience, it is clear that he is still in their plans to play internationally and thus remains a domestic player.
So unless I am missing something here, this is a blatant abuse of the system by all concerned - Yorkshire save an overseas player spot, SA get a player improving at someone else's expense, and Rudolph makes a nice salary that could have been used to bring on home talent - and no doubt when it suits 2 of the 3 parties he'll be back in the SA side renouncing his Kolpak status.
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Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:40pm
a classic case of how corrupt cricket is, thi kolpak business is ridiculous and if you havnt got a citizenship then youre overseas pal, that simple.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 6:18am
70DS the Kolpak case set a precedent allowing non-English players
to play for counties , but not classing them as foreigners. Whether
that's right or wrong , it was the high court that made that decision
and not English cricket.
That the counties have been quick to take as
many overseas players that qualify , as they have is definitely a
reason for concern.
Clobs is right , when the Kolpak players first
signed for county sides , they effectively gave up international
aspirations completely.
Paul Harris played county cricket last season and
was supposed to return this season. But he was called up by SA and just
chucked his kolpak contract into the bin!
The players and their respective countries are
seeming to have it both ways. You have to ask , do Cricket South Africa
compensate the counties when the player reneges on an existing
agreement? I suspect they do , because the counties don't seem to
be making much fuss over the reversals being taken by certain players.
Before Harris got the call , Claude Henderson
was approached and the only reason he didn't play in the Indian series
was because he asked cricket SA for a central contract - this they
refused and for security reasons he's staying with his kolpak contract.
It strikes me that it's a juggling act.
Cricket SA save on a central contract for a fringe player by allowing
him to play in England , but if they need him back , they pay some
level of compensation and have him released.
If I'm right , the ICC should act.
Contracts should be honoured , but I'm old fashioned and believe if you
put your name to an agreement , it's set in stone.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:01am
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That is how it seems to be Sledger, and as I said, it is a total abuse of a system. It was bad enough as it was with players realising their international days were over and taking money out of our county game instead, and if clubs are now going to knowingly sign up players in the almost certain knowledge that contracts will not be fulfilled (all the while aiding the development of the SA national side) there has to come a point where we say 'no more'.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:12am
Dead right Clobs. The only loser in this whole sorry saga
are young (and maybe not so young) English hopefuls. Where is the
benefit to English cricket , either at test or county level , if these
guys can come and go as they choose?
How to combat it , I'm not sure. The ECB can't ban
Kolpaks , the lawsuits for restriction of trade would be numerous , but
surely there must be some way of securing the futures of English talent?
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 10:06am
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Certainly there is nothing in law to prevent this. A gentleman's agreement could be put forward but that wouldn't last, so it may come back to the old suggestion of ensuring clubs are generously rewarded in financial terms by the ECB for bringing through players for the England team.
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Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 24 January 2007 at 10:32am
Just be thankful there isn't great interest in cricket across the wider European Union, particularly newer member states!!
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 5:58am
Yes Clobs , the ECB has to continue to shell out when counties
bring on their youngsters , giving them county exposure and hopefully
then into the international arena.
No facts to back this up , but I'd think that Durham
have probably brought on more youngsters than any other county in
recent years. Harmison , Collingwood , Plunkett and Pratt!
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Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 25 January 2007 at 10:13am
Maybe if they stopped producing so many internationals they would win some games =P
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Kerm
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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 January 2007 at 12:20pm
Good call Sledger - if I remember correctly, Somerset have only ever had 1 Kolpak player, and that's Charl Willoughby. We've produced lots of youngsters, but they haven't set the world alight. Yet!
PCA are now demanding some answers:
http://www.cricketworld.com/england/county/yorkshire/article/?aid=9283 - http://www.cricketworld.com/england/county/yorkshire/article/?aid=9283
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 6:25am
Good on the PCA , this should shake up the ECB ! It's
about time the ECB supported it's own - if they're going to turn a
blind eye on Kolpaks that have every intention of returning to the
international fold , they're badly letting down aspiring England
hopefuls.
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Posted By: Bettis91
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 7:47pm
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he has got to a reet start
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Let's Get Down To Business
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