Beamers
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Topic: Beamers
Posted By: wrong un
Subject: Beamers
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 6:18am
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A beamer ball was delivered and Batsman got undreneath it,unfortunately it hit the stumps.it was bowled by a slow bowler.whts the opinion abt tht,batsman can be given out or notout. Cheers |
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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 6:36am
| If the ball passed the batsman above his shoulders in his normal stance, then it's a no ball, if it was below then it's a fair ball. |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 6:48am
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Takes some doing to 'get under' a ball hitting your stumps - I think you'll find it's a full tossnot a beamer.
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: wrong un
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 9:14am
| Above the waist will be considered as a Beamer,hence it will be called as a no ball. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 9:26am
Incorrect!
If the bowler was judged by the umpire to be a fast bowler then it would be a no ball, but for a slow bowler a no ball is call above the shoulder.
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Posted By: Pietersen Fan
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 11:08am
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its like on cricket 07 when you bowl a loopy one, and you can actually bowl the batsmen over his head
im pretty sure thats a no ball ------------- check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 12:33pm
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I think he is talking about a slower ball yorker that Chris Read ducked
that hit his stumps, should be able to find it on you tube.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:33pm
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JzNQQs1E00 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JzNQQs1E00 ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:55pm
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:57pm
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Depends how small you are. ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:57pm
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:01pm
Read the thing properly. Honestly lad....  ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:15pm
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:16pm
This 'thing'? ...........
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 27 February 2007 at 4:27pm
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Got it in one WG. Well done. ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 27 February 2007 at 9:35pm
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You misread it ehh? Never mind, one day you'll learn not to open your mouth for fear of sticking your feet in it.
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 27 February 2007 at 9:49pm
| LOL.. Don't mess with W.G. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 27 February 2007 at 10:38pm
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I assumed that was discussing a foreign cricketer called Undre Neath =p
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 6:21am
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**groans**
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 7:05am
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If a ball hits the stumps directly its not a no ball, so no matter how the batsmen evaded it, under, over, besides, along, behind, beneath, around ,towards, bacwards, etc etc etc, he is out by cricket law. ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:57am
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I have to disagree there wiseguy, I know it's unlikley scenario but if a ball is lobbed high by a slow bowler and it's passes above a batsmens shoulders in his normal stance and lands on the top of the stumps, it is a no ball. The old donkey drops we used to call them, not seen very often these days. |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 10:08am
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But initial question was regarding a beamer, and obviously if a ball hits the top of stumps straight, its not a beamer, not a no ball and the batsmen has to go back. IF I remmeber exactly the ball is declared a no ball once it has passed the stumps without hitting them offcourse! ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 10:19am
Someone lacks a real sense of humour, or perhaps your just thrown off by the fact I made a joke about a spelling mistake rather then trying to make that person feel insignifigant and stupid. ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 10:49am
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Interestingly I wondered how the ruling would be if a batsmen charges down the wicket three or four steps to a bowler, and he scoops the ball very high but it lands before the stumps and hits them. ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 10:51am
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Well I imagine it would be the batsmens shoulder height from the crease
so as long as it loops down before then it might be acceptable, I
wouldnt want to try accuracy with a ball like that however.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 3:14pm
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 3:17pm
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 5:07pm
That enough for you? ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 5:22pm
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It's OK Fishy, no-one could make you look any more insignificant and stupid
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 5:24pm
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Perhaps so, but I'll live longer than you. ------------- |
Posted By: W.G.
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 5:34pm
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Congratulations, use your time wisely.
------------- When you win the toss - bat. If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 7:26pm
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Right well can we get back to discussing the cricket now, something
that isn't done nearly enough on here. Saying that i'm not sure
there is much that can be added to this subject, could be time for a
close unless anyone can bring any new impetus to the subject.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:19pm
Initial question was bowled by a SLOW bowler, that is what I based my answer on.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:28pm
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fishcake LOL you make me laugh.
The issue surrounding beamers for me is whether there intentional or not. Often they aren't except ruffing up a batsman with a beamer means they can often lose confidence and it disrupts their innings. A ploy used by some, rather than no other.... ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:31pm
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I bowled one today, wasnt entirely intentional, ball was a bit wet,
luckily for the batsman it was a training ball so it didn't break
anything =p
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:36pm
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wasn't entirely intentional???
I wouldn't want to face you in the nets! ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:40pm
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It was my mate and he kept despoiting my to far parts of a muddy field... it was only a soft ball so it didn't do any serious damage which is more then can be said for a crafty little leg break i threw in that hit him where you wouldnt wish to be hit while not wearing a box... ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:43pm
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Ouch! ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:46pm
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I personally dont wear much protection, just pads, gloves and box, I
always felt that it gives me more reason to hit the ball, where there
are people with thigh guards and chest protectors, armguards and all
the rest, each to their own I suppose. Maybe I'm strange but the feeling of getting hit in the body by a cricket ball isn't pain as such, just feels dull, and reminds me that i screwed up and missed one. ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:31pm
| I get the feeling you have never been hit by anyone sharp kerm. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:36pm
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I've been hit by both fast bowlers and bowling machines, maybe I just
have good pain tolerance, it bruises a little but it doesnt do any
serious damage. Maybe one day I'll take a ball somewhere that does hurt
me quite a bit, like the head. But until then i'm ok with the
protection I have.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:42pm
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Thats a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. I have a few mates that started wearing helmets after they they were hit. I don't always wear one in a game, but I always do at training, bowlers always seem to try a bit harder trying to impress the skipper. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:51pm
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Well where I play the ball tends to keep pretty low so the chances of
getting hit in the head are pretty low unless the other team has a 7ft
bowler. Only a few times has the ball gotten to head height when i've
been at nets and the few times it has I've played it competantly. Anyway i'd go by the argument that anyone who doesnt wear a helmet is probably silly enough that there isn't much in there to damage but I like the Sachin Tendulkar quote of "it gives you more reason to hit the ball" and while I dont claim to be a millionth of the batsman he is he has a point. if you dont have a helmet on (or maybe if you do I dont know) and the ball is heading for your face then your body plays the shot for you, which gives some interesting results and are often good shots. I've never been a fan of helmets just because they tend to give you a bad field of vision, if they ever design one with a perspex panel on the front then maybe but until then i'll keep trying my method of duck and hit until I take one in the face. ------------- Kerm |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 3:15am
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I always were a thigh pad, gives me more confidence as a batsman. ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 3:46am
| It's the top edge that has always worried me, not so much getting hit by a bouncer. Does Tendulker wear a helmet? |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 4:05am
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are you joking? ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 11:01am
| about what? |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 March 2007 at 8:29am
Of course Tendulkar wears a helmet 143no ------------- |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 03 March 2007 at 9:08am
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I've never seen Sachin not wearing a helmet ever. Whenever he's batted, he's always wore a helmet.
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 12:03am
| My point was it makes his quote about if you dont wear one it makes you watch the ball closer, seem a bit silly. |
Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 12:07am
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It was when he was a kid and he didn't wear any pads at the time I believe, brave boy.
------------- Kerm |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 12:10am
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Yet another bizarre method of how you become an excellent batsman.
Some I think, work funnily enough. ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Jonnyscricket
Date Posted: 29 April 2007 at 10:22pm
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hehe, lol. Funny but harsh.. ------------- new season starting in a week!!!!!!!!!! :D |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 5:39pm
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Im an opening bat so I always wear a helmet in games but I have now also started wearing them at practice since it better simulates the field of vision I would have during a match. The Flicx mat we use can be a little unpredictable. One of our middle-order bats was getting ready to drive a good length ball a few days ago, it shot up and hit him in the shoulder. He never wears a helmet, which I personally think is a bit silly on this pitch.
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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 5:45pm
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Maybe the surface that the Flicx is laid on made the ball jump. If the surface underneath isn't somewhat good, the mattings won't play good. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 5:52pm
| Its laid on a hard gravel track. It isn't ideal but its all we've got. :-) |
Posted By: Vaughansashes09
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 8:51pm
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Snapes moon ball perhaps?
Could happen in the 20T WC final.............
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Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 8:14am
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Beamers are very dangerous things...the sight of a cricket ball hurtling towards your head at speed - frightening. My mate used to bowl to me in the nets and if the ball was wet it slipped pretty badly. Enough said. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 11:04pm
Since the ball the hit the stumps, he should be given out. I wouldn't call it a "BEAMER". It must have looked like a beamer but I guess it wasn't too high. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 23 August 2007 at 11:27pm
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The only beamers that scare me are the ones coming head height and to the balls. Other than that, I'm fine. The other day, I hit a fast bowler ball over waist height for six over extra cover. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 04 September 2007 at 4:47am
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Yeah, your reaction time has to be very quick otherwise you'll be seeing stars. A basic full toss is easy to put away in most circumstances. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 7:07pm
A basic full toss can be put away , a full toss at the brain puts you away.
Something like that might sum up the reaction time for a beamer, mate?   ------------- |
Posted By: sandeepmjd
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 5:18am
| Under any circumstances, if the beamer is bowled with fair action and release and legal(bowling action), that is out. |
Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 5:44am
| are you sure you know what beamer means. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 23 November 2007 at 5:52am
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It's obvious that he doesn't .
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |