Super Eights
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Topic: Super Eights
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Subject: Super Eights
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 4:13am
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Guess its time to make the topic for the super eights ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |
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Posted By: BOBBI
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 4:06pm
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Bring on the business end of the cup ------------- Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition. |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 8:50pm
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The schedule for the super eights are seriously messed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tomorrow the west indies is supposed to play the aussies but I don't think that's how it is supposed to be according to the ticket brochure......or the fixtures that was posted up in the "fixtures" thread. Since when does the winner of one group play the winner of another group?? That's really wrong....why should the winner of group D which is west indies be playing the winner of group A which is Australia??? ------------- |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 9:36pm
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Not really Daisy! Remember, the Windies have to play everyteam except the Irish so it doesn't matter in which order they play the 2nd place of this group or the 1st place!
And for some people, you might see d2 on the fixture for the windies and they are playing the Aussies. D2 doesn't mean the team that finished 2nd in group d. The ICC had already given the seeded teams a tag. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 11:33pm
| Anyway, http://www.cricketworld.com/media_centre/article/?aid=10307 - here is my preview of the Super Eight stage. |
Posted By: IbiZZle
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 12:38am
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Well done Jp. That is an exciting read.
------------- !~Where Ever You Go, There You Are~! |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:46am
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This is what i've been waiting for, the super eights! Bring it on! ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 7:15am
Hey Bondy, must thank you for breaking your team mates bones! It will just make it that little more easier for the Aussies to thump the Kiwi's! ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 7:39am
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What a disaster that was!!! Vincent was in form after his hundred against Canada, and was high on confidence after his return to international cricket.
Finally we find a decent opening partnership and its broken. Let's hope Marshall can do the job he's intended to do. ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:10am
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Injuries were always going to play a part in such a long tournament ,
but the Black Caps seem to have copped a lot ! Vincent can be
very destructive , Marshall just isn't the same sort of player.
Fleming's role will take on extra significance now if they're to get
the fast starts we've seen from them in 2007. So the tournament proper gets underway today. West Indies are up against the form side in Australia - if they were to spring a surprise it could open up the entire competition and give hope to all - even England! Not such good news for South Africa though. Apparently the ground hasn't power and the pitch is awful after heavy rain. They've also been unable to practise, so tomorrow's toughie against Sri Lanka will have them rather worried. A big game for both sides then , but that extra 2 points give some breathing space to the Lankans. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:42am
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SA vs SL will be a huge match for the Proteas. If they lose, then their confidence will be severely dashed, and their performance against the other Super 8 teams will certainly be affected. Sort of a make-or-break for SA, while SL haven't really come up against tough opposition as yet in the tournament. If SL lose, they can bounce back far easier than SA can. (note the disclaimer again) ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:50am
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Big match today, West indies have a good history going in their favour, they have been competitive in cruntch games against ausies, so a real exciting game at hand.
Lara's role so far has been subdued, now being a big match player it will be a match winning performance required from him. Only formula that works against ausies is attack, so we have to see how much pressure windies put on the ausies tonight! My Money for sure on ausies in this match! ------------- so far so good! |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:50am
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Do agree with you there Mojo. Mind you, if by some miracle the Aussies lose tonight, they still have to beat NZ, SL and SA and that could prove difficult for the Aussies if they lose one or more of these matches to progress through to the finals. Boy, i dont hope any of that happens! ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 9:17am
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No tonks , Australia don't play SA in the super 8's - you've an easier passage than most matey!
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 10:36am
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It strikes me that some sides have been dealt a better hand than
others when you consider the venues for each fixture in the super 8's.
Just look at the number of times each side plays at a certain place and
comment on who you feel has been looked after well or not so well. Team Antigua Guyana Grenada Barbados Australia 3 0 2 1 West Indies 2 1 1 2 South Africa 0 3 2 1 Sri Lanka 1 2 3 0 New Zealand 2 1 3 0 Ireland 0 3 1 2 England 2 1 0 3 Bangladesh 2 1 0 3 It seems to me that SA have drawn the short straw. Guyana's weather must be a major concern , a few no-results could seriously damage SA's chance of a semifinal birth. Australia , on the other hand seem to have the best of it - that win over SA might have been worth a lot more than just the two points. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 10:48am
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I think Aus ,Nzl ,Srl and Win will go through .SAF are strong contenders but they lack a slow bowler and their bowlers havent been good enough at the death . ------------- |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 1:02pm
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I fancy Australia, South Africa, Sri Lanka and the Windies for the semis. They have stood out as teams on form so far, althoguh of course its hard to say at this stage where each team has had only one serious test at most. Unfortunately i can't see England finishing above any of the proper test nations, and I wouldn't be all that surprised to see them beaten by Bangladesh either.
------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 1:42pm
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Weather could play a significant part CM - SA playing three matches in
Guyana could cost them dearly , rain is a constant threat.
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 3:08pm
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Australia 40-1 and that gentleman , Adam Gilchrist walks again.
8 overs gone and already Ponting has cleared the ropes - they look a
confident side and the hosts must put the ball in the right areas if
they're going to chase a reachable total.
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 3:40pm
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Ponting has just run himself out, windies are looking like a confident team. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 4:18pm
| Was it only me that heard a little sound when the ball went past hayden's bat down the leg side?? |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 4:22pm
| Didn't sound like bat on ball to me, more like bat brushing pad. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 4:24pm
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sounded like one of those sneaky fielders clicking their fingers ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 4:31pm
| Cant tell.....this video quality isn't great!!! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 4:37pm
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Playing on a full size ground is certainly making a difference to the way we are batting, there is a lot more working of the ball. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:06pm
| I've been absolutely aghast at Samuel's action in his last few overs |
Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:07pm
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well hayden's played magnificently already passed the 150 mark in just about 140 balls! He's been in fine form lately. ------------- What goes around comes around! |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:16pm
| Boo. Rain, go away! |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:28pm
| I thought Samuels chucked that quicker one he sent down outside off which Hayden guided to the third man boundary. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 9:00pm
| Certainly looked like a chuck to me, too. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 11:11pm
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Yeah some of deliveries looked very suss. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: The unDerDOg
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 12:00am
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SAF and SL contest seems to be very intresting...SAF is in form (despite the loss to Aussies, where they put up a resonable fight). SL is red-hot and i am sure nobody want to face em right now. But here we go again...SAF reverse the curse!!!
------------- South Africa & Pakistan...the "Gang Green Gang"! http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/72900/72930.jpg |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:21am
An easier passage because we have already thumped the so called number one side in the world Sledge? ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:12am
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I''m expeting a SA, Aus, SRL, NZL semi-final with a hopefully AUS-SA final if they don't play in the semi-final(would want SA winning by 1 run then). Want SA to win the cup as they were always my 2nd favourite team and almost favourites since India performed so badly. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 5:57am
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Great pity that the weather seems to be playing a more important
role as this tournament progresses. What are the chances that the team
that finishes 5th will have been eliminated because they shared the
points with Ireland and maybe Bangladesh? The extra day for each
match is some comfort , but doesn't guarantee that matches will be
completed. The Windies wouldn't be devastated if it rains all day in Antigua today , but the Aussies and their fans certainly would! Nice to see a big ground too - it plays into the hands of sides like the Aussies , they have so many batsmen who are quick between the wickets. Fine effort again by Hayden - he's in a rich vein of form , although Sarwan went from hero (Ponting run out) to zero after that missed catch on the boundary. It never fails to amaze me how what would be a waist high catch on the fence sails over the fielder's head because he's 10 yards infield! As mentioned by others in this thread , Samuels has a suspect action and really should have been reported. As far as I'm aware , that hasn't happened. 322 is more than competitive , to have a chance Gayle and Chanderpaul need to give them a century start at the very least and that still might not be enough. Lara is crucial , he must bat higher and take it to the world champions. Lastly , and I don't like harping on a about it , but just where are the fans?? When the hosts play the champs the ground should be packed to the rafters - it looks like a marketing mistake , the ticket prices just are out of reach for the average local , sad that. If the horrible weather persists today and tomorrow I think the South Africans will happily settle for a point - they are running scared of Murali - the local papers are panicking already! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 9:57am
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Should be a cracker of a game tonight if Chris Gayle and Chanderpaul fire at the top of the order and get the Windies off to a flying start, but then of course Australia winning in the end. xD
------------- "His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:21am
they did say in commentary that in terms of ticket sales the match was all but a sell out, though you are right about the large empty spaces. They did speculate that maybe people had bought seats but then took occupation on the grass bank instead. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:28am
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Let's hope the locals turn up today Clobs , the hosts will need all the support they can get.
------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:41am
| let's hope the sun turns up as well |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:48am
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I can't believe the price of tickets, its an absolute nitemare that they don't have big crowds.
The cricket WC is meant to be the most prestigious of one-day cricket and the ICC make the prices of tickets out of reach for the average consumer...
What is WRONG with the ICC!!? Big crowds = atmosphere, more money in the long-run and entertainment for not only those watching at the ground but television viewers too. ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:02am
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I'm with you all the way Bondy , but when has sound commonsense
ever influenced the ICC? Today I read that the top man running
the WC says that the semis and final are sold out and he's happy with
the crowds so far. I'm no marketing man , but I could've sold out the 2 semis and the final by standing on a quiet street corner here in Cape Town - not much savvy needed to do that! That he's happy with the attendances is disconcerting . In a cricket mad part of the world the masses are priced out of the showpiece , that's a disgrace. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:18am
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I'm majoring in marketing and the principle behind it is numbers. Not only is it disappointing from a fans perspective, but from a marketing perspective its ludicrous. Firstly, bringing people to the games at a lower price means that although there making less for each ticket they have consumers who will pay a premium for drinks, food, ect. I wonder how the people at the top get there sometimes. On another note. The loss of Vincent is HUGE for NZ. Not because Marshall will be playing (because he won't) if Taylor is, but because he was the key to our opening partnership. For once the pressure was off Fleming to score freely with Vincent ticking the score over at the other end. I feel sorry for the guy. Finally gets his opportunity to shine on the world stage and its shot down by Bond who ironically has had a horror run with injuries himself...as we all know! ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 1:54pm
Spot on as usual Sledge!! SA and Ireland are in for the worst. Rain is always a threat in Guyana even in the heart of the Dry Season. It's always a great batting track over there......
Aussie will benefit a lot from the fact that they are in Antigue were conditions are very good for batting. All the teams now have an advantage over SA, SRI and Ireland. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 1:57pm
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Well, I know see a lot of persons questioning Samuels action. I remember some months back I clearly said it that he chucks big time. I am just surprised he hasn't been reported as yet. It's mainly all his balls and not his quicker ones. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:02pm
OK.....so the windies have to play all the other teams in the super eight except for the one that is in their group that is Ireland????? Thanks for telling me.... ------------- |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:06pm
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Spin he probably has not been reported yet because he has not gotten that much wickets yet...LOL. I mean if he was making a great impact with the ball then you may have gotten the complaints....but what's the use of reporting an illegal action when it's not effective anyway...I mean since it's not affecting you why bother to waste your time and report something like that.... ------------- |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:13pm
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Well, it's rules! I don't know how in the world they haven't reported him as yet whether he is good or bad with the ball. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:22pm
Words fail me..............cricket has been haunted with chucking controversies for years Daisy - if his action is illegal , then he must be brought to book. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:27pm
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Problem is, he can't be called, so if it affects the outcome of a game, it will be too late when he gets sited. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:34pm
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Yep 143 , the new rules are that he can only be reported after play has ended - what a cop out that is! Anyway , SL win the toss and elect to bat on a dry looking pitch. No-one knows how this wicket is going to play , but even SA have drafted in Petersen , replacing Prince , so it looks like a great track for the Lankans! Expect 30 overs of spin from the Lankans fellas , they just have to be favourites . Smith and company must be hacked off - a grassless pitch and they've three games to play here! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:35pm
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No surprise there really! Guyana is always a beauty to bat on! The short stuff from the proteas won't work on these surfaces! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 2:50pm
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Brand new stadium , brand new track SW - who knows how it'll play. Tharanga gone for 12 and SL are 13-1 , caught by Kemp at 1st slip off Ntini. That'll give the South Africans a lift , all they need is Pollock to stop being carted to all parts of the Caribbean! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:00pm
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There is a lad back here and he says all the track in Guyana plays the same. They are flat and grassless - makes you toil all day long. He was speaking from his experience with the Windward Island U-19 side so......
From what I heard, this one looks like a sub continent track.  ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:03pm
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Oh dear, Pollock is being carnaged! Poor SA, if he doesn't contain, I don't think any other will!!! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:23pm
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Samuels dismissal was absolutely disgusting, no ticker what so ever. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: Freddie
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:33pm
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West Indies are playing appaulingly, they are capable of doing a lot more than they are currently, it's a terrible batting performance, I've actually turned the TV off I'm so annoyed at their scoring rate. Sri Lanka look to have made a decent start against the South Africans and we could be in for a good game here. ------------- On extended leave... |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:43pm
| Has Langeveldt come to the party or what? I am not sure if he is taking the pace off the ball now and then or if the pitch is just making the ball stop on the batsman a bit. Jayasuriya and Jayawardene both played their shots way too early. didn't read the pace of the ball. |
Posted By: Freddie
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 3:48pm
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I've worked it out that to qualify for the semi-finals England will need to win at least 4 of their 6 Super Eight games (including 2 against teams which have carried points forward) and hope that luck goes their way in the other matches.
It seems that the best way for England to qualify is by beating Bangladesh, Ireland, Sri Lanka and the West Indies (all of which are fairly achievable) and hope that the Sri Lankans and West Indians can only beat Bangladesh and Ireland and then win one of them wins the game they play each other in.
Then providing New Zealand, South Africa and Australia only take points off each other and all beat England, Sri Lanka, the West Indies, Bangladesh and Ireland then England hvae a chance of making it through, 3 wins in the Super Eight stage won't be enough unless Bangladesh and Ireland can both upset Sri Lanka or the West Indies.
If this does happen then it would leave the table like this:
Australia: 14 points
South Africa: 12/10 points
New Zealand 12/10 points
England: 8 points
Sri Lanka: 6/8 points
West Indies: 6/8 points
Bangladesh: 0/2 points
Ireland: 0/2 points
The only possible drawback could be net run rate, but West Indies current performance could help us if they beat Sri Lanka, but if Australia, South Africa and New Zealand play to their current form then it will be difficult to see them getting beaten by the next 3, this way would be our best hope, although it will be a bonus if England can beat South Africa as it would be taking points off them too.
But at the moment, this seems to be the best way of qualification.
For those who found my explanation very complicated then I've given the results to the possible way of England's qualification in all the matches involving England, Sri Lanka and the West Indies below:
Tue: Australia v West Indies March 27 Antigua - Australia
Wed: South Africa v Sri Lanka March 28 Guyana - South Africa Thu: West Indies v New Zealand March 29 Antigua - New Zealand Fri: England v Ireland March 30 Guyana - England Sun: West Indies v Sri Lanka April 1 Guyana - Either Wed: England v Sri Lanka April 4 Antigua - England Sun: Australia v England April 8 Antigua - Either Tue: West Indies v South Africa April 10 Grenada - South Africa Wed: Bangladesh v England April 11 Barbados - England Thu: New Zealand v Sri Lanka April 12 Grenada - New Zealand Mon: Australia v Sri Lanka April 16 Grenada - Australia Tue: England v South Africa April 17 Barbados - Either Wed: Sri Lanka v Ireland April 18 Grenada - Sri Lanka Thu: Bangladesh v West Indies April 19 Barbados - West Indies Sat: England v West Indies April 21 Barbados - England ------------- On extended leave... |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 4:30pm
| Was that Jonty Rhodes???....Oh no Im sorry it was Herschelle Gibbs!!!!!!! Brilliant!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Rifat
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 4:46pm
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WI 95-4 I am having doubts about WI reaching the semi-finals |
Posted By: Chin Music
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 4:53pm
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Hmm, me to. I had tipped them but maybe New Zealand are a better bet. Still, there's a long way to go still
------------- Turnham Green CC Fast bowler & middle/lower-order bat |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 6:11pm
yeah well let's see how long it will take before he is reported ------------- |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 6:16pm
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Comprehensive victory by the Aussies!! They have proved why they are one of the best teams in this world cup!!!!! The west indies batsmen really failed us. Only 2 windies batsmen actually performed ~ Lara and Ramdin. A nice bit of batting by Lara. I think Chanderpaul was given a bad out though. He was given LBW but I don't think that ball was going on to hit the stumps though. Oh well.....add salt to the wounds of the windies!!! Anyway the aussies really outplayed us. It seemed like a batting wicket and our batsmen were supposed to get in on the runs which they didn't do. I don't know what Gayle was doing today though. If anyone knows please tell me.....his innings today didn't make any sense! ------------- |
Posted By: Jayasuriya
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:32pm
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my goodness, that was one cracker of a game, good job SA for keeping SL batsmen on their heals, good job to Murali and MALINGA for creating an turnaround that coudlve been one of the best ever, and wow, Malinga 4 balls, 4 wickets, amazing, And WI really need to fight harder than they did today, thats all i can say, or else they have no chance ------------- Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07 |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:11pm
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Yeah you are right about West Indies...they DESPERATELY NEED to fighter harder than they did today if they want to make it to the semis and hopefully the finals. Good game today for SA. Amazing bowling by Malinga. Those South Africans were probably sitting at the edge of their seats while Malinga and Vaas were bowling the overs to the end of the match with a number 11 and Robin Pieterson at the wicket. 4 wickets in 4 balls was true AMAZING !!!!!!! I have to say that Malinga's hair looks awful but the man can definately bowl!!!!!!!!! I know a hattrick is 3 wickets in 3 balls but what do you call 4 wickets in 4 balls??? LOL Has anyone in the world cup ever done this before????????? I highly doubt it... ------------- |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 1:12am
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To my knowledge i dont recall anyone taking 4 wickets off 4 balls in the WC but it may have happend. It is actually called a double hat trick. The name doesnt make sense, i know, but thats what they call it.......And while im here, i might send out the challenge: Can anyone stop the Aussies? Here we go for 3 in a row! ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 1:57am
| Oh you'll be stopped sooner or later. ;-) |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 2:07am
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And who is your tip to do so scuudz? ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 2:24am
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My predictions have been mostly wrong this WC but I am going to say New Zealand/Sri Lanka would give Aus a run for their money.
Not to mention the threat Ireland and Bangladesh pose ;-) hehe
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Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 2:29am
But, read my signature and it might happen! I dont think NZ have a hope in hell against the aussies but i do believe that Sri Lanka can win the world cup and they are the biggest threat even after losing to SA. Although i hope they dont!------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: scuudz
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 2:34am
| Yea buddy. This wc is so unpredictable take it from an Indian. NZ look just as good as SL to me. |
Posted By: Rifat
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 4:44am
Underestimate them at your own peril  India and Pakistan already learned their lessons, who will be next? |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 5:23am
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Tonights game between NZ and West Indies will be key to the outcome of the tournament. NZ are carrying a few key injuries with Taylor and Vincent out, two of our best batsman of late. West Indies have the ability to win, however on 7 out of 10 occasions i'd back NZ. Go the BLACK CAPS!! ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 5:52am
Before Malinga's heroics no-one in international cricket had
taken 4 wickets in 4 balls Tonks. Some effort huh? South
Africa do choke , no doubt about it. He almost got 5 in 5 as he beat the edge of Langeveldt's nervous prod. Sri Lanka will look on this as a game given away.
They blew the last three overs of their knock(although not as badly as their
opposition) and a score of 220 or so would've done the trick. If that'd
happened SA wouldn't have made the semis. But they're still in with a
shout , but they'll need better performances with the bat than this
one. Kallis was purring until victory was in sight , then he froze -
seen that before haven't we! Australia have shown their intent and for me there's
only NZ who won't back off against them. The message is clear , if you
want to beat them , you've got to take it to 'em! It'll be some game that gets more tense and exciting than the SA/SL match , that's for sure! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:03am
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So would this cause some contraversy if we mentioned the double hat trick in the same breath as Herschelle's six 6's Sledge? ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:06am
I always thought there was practically nothing separating Rhodes and Gibbs scuudz , both were/are terrific! That Jonty always fielded at backward point suggests that Cronje and management thought Jonty had the edge , but it was mighty close. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:09am
Not with me tonks - it was a bowling exhibition of the highest class ! No runs to play with , an old ball (which he reversed brilliantly) and two established , experienced batsmen in Kallis and Pollock at the crease. Truly inspired piece of bowling that could set this world cup on fire! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:13am
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Certainly not with me either Sledge! first time ever, against the No.1 side in the world and as you mentioned, an old ball and two in batsmen, i think this is a remarkable feat! ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:27am
New Zealand really need to perform this match, this match will set the tempo for them for the rest of the tournament. I'm a big fan of marshall, i hope he does well. Not to sure about Fulton opening though 
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 7:00am
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The loss of Vincent has really unsettled the NZ top order mate. Fleming
seemed very relaxed batting with Vincent and scored at a run a ball in
effortless fashion. Vincent's biffing melded well too and they got NZ
off to some rollicking starts. Fulton must play his own game though and not try to be Vincent Mk II ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:05am
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SA vs SL... My oh my, what a nailbiter. It doesn't get any more tense than that. Malinga's hattrick+1 was definitely an amazing bit of cricket, dare I say far more impressive than 6 sixes? But I believe that Langevelt's man-of-the-match award was well deserved. Not for his 5 wicket haul, but more so for the most well-played and gutsy knock of 1* that I've ever seen in my life.
It's weird how both the innings played in exactly the same way, with quickfire starts, and wickets tumbling at the end. It's a funny game, ODI cricket.
Once again I ask "Why is Kemp in the SA side?" ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:31am
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Malinga's last 3 or 4 overs today were some of the best bowling I have ever seen. Sri Lanka were desperately unlucky not to win, with about 5 or 6 balls going within an inch of the bat when they only needed one more wicket. Especially that ball of Malinga's where it missed both the bat and the stumps by a couple of millimetres. 4 wickets from 4 balls, against decent batsmen and little assistance from ball or pitch - now THAT'S a record people should take notice of. ------------- It's a long way to the shop, if you want a sausage roll. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:38am
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Actually Mojo , the adjudicators awarded the M.O.T.M to both
Langeveldt and Malinga - they just forgot to tell the latter!! I have to agree with Roscoe , Malinga's final spell was exactly that - spellbinding! Maybe because the match looked lost that he just charged in and let it rip , but just how Langeveldt and Petersen survived was miraculous . Remember too , that the winning boundary came off the edge !! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:42am
He didn't look confident last night and he never looked like getting a bowl. Smith again showed little confidence in Petersen either - waiting until the 30th over before throwing him the ball. Blimey , he bowled himself before his number 1 spinner - how crazy is that? Having said that , the pair of them looked as threatening as an English footballing forward line! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:46am
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That's true... But for an SA supporter, that edge was just as good as any cover drive. The result is still four runs, and 2 points.
SA really need to work on why they let the match slip out of their fingers so far. It's worrying that they had 2 middle-order collapses in 2 successive matches. Boucher will be kicking himself, Kemp will know that many eyes are on him, and Hall and Pollock will have to make up for their failures. ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:53am
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Yep , 2 pts is 2 pts and against one of the favourites too. They
aren't convincing though and the spin bowling problem is a real concern. The wicket doesn't suit biffers like Kemp and there's still another two matches in Guyana , maybe he will be dropped and Prince will be brought back to nurdle a few. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 8:57am
I agree! Prince seems to have a knack of taking the fight to the subcontinent teams. He was magnificent recently against Pak and Ind in SA; and even on the slow Newlands pitch, he batted well. He should have been an obvious pick against Sri Lanka. Kemp shouldn't even have been on the field. ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:03am
That's what I like about the slinging bowlers like Malinga and Tait. They just wang it down, and a lot of the time the outcome is stumps flying or a spectacular drive. Either way, it's great for the spectators. ------------- It's a long way to the shop, if you want a sausage roll. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:05am
| I know it can be said that SA did their best to blow it but looking at the bigger picture it was a fantastic victory in what were practically ideal conditions for the Sri Lankans - as a result it is the latter who should have the greater cause for concern this morning |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:13am
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Fair comment Clobs and they probably had the better of the conditions
for batting and bowling - a real missed opportunity for the Lankans.
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:19am
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On a slightly different note: Can West Indies win their match today against New Zealand? This is the 3rd day in a row that they're playing limited overs cricket. How will they cope? ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Titan
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:21am
I don't think they choked, Sledger. I just think they basically nearly messed it up by not concentrating to the end. There was no pressure on them and they just threw their wickets away in stead of going for 4 singles!But I agree with you, on the fact that it seems unlikely that they will won the the cup. The balance of the team is just not right, they have no quality spinner and Pollock,Langeveldt,Hall is basically the same type of bowlers, therefore there is no variation! Secondly I don't think anybody can stop the Aussies. ------------- I saw into the future - Ashes 2009 England 3 Australia 1! |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:27am
I think they'll be glad to get out there after yesterday's setback. Same pitch probably , so they have the advantage of knowing the conditions. They must be concerned with the form of Gayle , 2 off 23 balls was so , so unGaylelike ! It should be a fascinating contest between him and Bond , first up! NZ have their injury worries and the changed batting order , either side can take this one methinks. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: Titan
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:34am
There is a few "death weights" in team currently. Kemp, Peterson and currently Pollock also has not contributed at all. With the squad they selected who can replace them? Imaging they selected on merit, and Steyn,Harris,Boje or van der Wath was available to replace these out of form players! Now they have Telemachus, Nel and Bosman? ------------- I saw into the future - Ashes 2009 England 3 Australia 1! |
Posted By: Titan
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:41am
I also thought it was a very good performance up till 206/5 turned to 207/9! That basically made the performance "average". The strokes that Pollock, Hall and Kallis played, was outrages. I think they tried to improve their net runrate, should it end at at a tie, when the Super 8 section comes to an end.
I also could not help to laugh at Smith's post match interview! "We dominated for 95 overs of the game"haha. He is in total denail and very naive. ------------- I saw into the future - Ashes 2009 England 3 Australia 1! |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:46am
To my knowledge, Petersen had already bowled his 3rd over before Smith decided to have a bowl himself. He bowled 3 overs while Petersen bowled 5. So Petersen came on long before Smith did. ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:49am
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I missed that Mojo - must've nodded off!
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:50am
Yeah... Wasn't the smartest of comments. He wanted so much to make it look like it was an easy win, which it wasn't. He should stop deluding himself that they did well, and go back to the drawing board and find out why his middle order is doing so dismally.
I remember the days when SA's top order used to fail and get rescued by the middle order. The roles have reversed now, and the situation is not any more encouraging. ------------- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any other forum members. They are the express property of Mojo. |
Posted By: Sureshot
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 11:55am
| It'll be tough for the WIndies today as they play for the 3rd day running. I can see this being tight, home advantage to nip it though. |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 11:59am
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The bowling performance of this NZ outfit is consistent. It is how they bat that will separate these two sides. Fulton at the top of the order shouldn't be a problem, though its not ideal with the loss of Vincent. Marshall's role is key in turning over the strike and letting the other batsman bat around him. His success in this match for me will determine how we bat. Also Fleming must relax and bat how he has been lately! It will be interesting to see if they play Patel or not, I think he is worthy of a place on this pitch. ------------- Good one Graham! |