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Pietersen Catch

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Topic: Pietersen Catch
Posted By: diggler
Subject: Pietersen Catch
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 10:38am
I know that according to the current rules, the Pieterson catch from Symonds was not valid, but is it a good rule?  If he made the same catch anywhere else on the field and threw it in the air, as often happens, no one would question it.  I don't like the rule.  I think all you should need is to control the ball inside the boundary
 
By the way, it is not that I'm a sore loser because I'm an Aussie.



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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 10:44am
I didn't see it but Ian Chappell certainly thought it should have counted as a catch


Posted By: Kerm
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 10:56am
By the rule of the law its not out but I dont know, looked pretty decent to me.

He caught it running in from the boundary, took one step an inch inside the boundary rope, then three more steps, then tossed it back into the field of play before going over the rope.

Technecially not out but like has been said, anywhere else on the pitch and it would have been given. I think Vaughan had a bit of a heated chat with the umpires about getting it referred but they didn't.

Personally i'd say as long as you have full control over the ball i.e your not deflecting it upwards. As long as you have the ball in hand and its in safely then that should be ok as a catch but being in control of your movements is a tad ambiguous.


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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 10:59am
There was an incident a couple of seasons ago at Leics where Brad Hodge took a catch running towards the boundary and depending on who you believe either he carried it over the boundary so it should have been not out (the view of the batsman, Dominic Cork, who publicly labelled Hodge a cheat), or it was under control and he simply ran over the boundary to celebrate with the crowd (Hodge's view, one shared by the umpires on this occasion).


Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 11:23am
Changing the rules to allow players to run out of bounds under certain conditions would make them unnecessarily hard to enforce, given that this happens so rarely.

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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 10:30pm
It was clearly not out. The rule states you have to be in control of your body, as well as the ball.
 
He was not in control of his body illustrated by the fact that he couldn't stabilize his movement.


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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:47am
Right Bondy , it wasn't out.  Imagine the hoohaa though if it'd been the last wicket and not the 4th!!

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:59am
What would happen in the following case?:
The fielder catches the ball just inside the boundary rope, but is going backwards towards the rope. The fielder then throws the ball upwards and inwards before stepping over the rope. He then regains control of himself, and runs back into the field to catch the ball again before it hits the ground.
 
Is that out or not-out?


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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 8:08am
If he releases the ball from within the field of play then it would be out.

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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 4:03pm

It would also have been out if he had thrown it to another feilder.



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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 6:01am
As long as the other fella caught it 143 !!

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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 7:16am
of course sledger I just took that as read, I forgot we are talking about english feilders.

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 8:45am
We've dropped less than your mob matey - go check the thread!

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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 12 April 2007 at 3:10am
I guess that happens when a team only creates half the amount of chances.

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