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Anyone Else Tried This?

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Topic: Anyone Else Tried This?
Posted By: Freddie
Subject: Anyone Else Tried This?
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 12:39pm
As you may know I am an off-break bowler, and because I've never really been able to extract a lot of turn form my off-breaks I've decided to mess about with how I grip the ball, so instead of using a normal grip I've come up with a new style of grip (I've called it the fork grip).
 
Basically by the fork grip I mean you basically grip the ball in the shape of a fork, you put your middle finger on the seam and your other two fingers on either side of the seam on the sides of the ball, I've tried it and managed to extract quite a bit of turn with the ball on concrete, so I don't know how much turn I can get from it on a normal wicket but I'm fairly confident of it being a decent way to grip the ball.
 
Because of the way the ball s gripped as well you could in theory use it to bowl off break, leg break, medium pace and maybe even fast bowlers could use it, but I've never seen it used by anyone else and I was wondering if anyone else used it. I think it's a fairly effective way to bowl so try it.
 
Your views on the 'fork grip'....


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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 12:54pm
I might give that a try next time I bowl. 

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Posted By: Shane Warnabee
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 6:54pm
i used to have that exact same grip a few years ago.
But eventually i lowered my 3rd finger bit.

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Posted By: benkola13
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by Freddie

As you may know I am an off-break bowler, and because I've never really been able to extract a lot of turn form my off-breaks I've decided to mess about with how I grip the ball, so instead of using a normal grip I've come up with a new style of grip (I've called it the fork grip).
 
Basically by the fork grip I mean you basically grip the ball in the shape of a fork, you put your middle finger on the seam and your other two fingers on either side of the seam on the sides of the ball, I've tried it and managed to extract quite a bit of turn with the ball on concrete, so I don't know how much turn I can get from it on a normal wicket but I'm fairly confident of it being a decent way to grip the ball.
 
Because of the way the ball s gripped as well you could in theory use it to bowl off break, leg break, medium pace and maybe even fast bowlers could use it, but I've never seen it used by anyone else and I was wondering if anyone else used it. I think it's a fairly effective way to bowl so try it.
 
Your views on the 'fork grip'....
 
It might not work on a normal wicket because concrete grips a ball better than grass/ normal wicket. Hope it works out for you, but i'm going to stay with my same grip.


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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by benkola13
 
It might not work on a normal wicket because concrete grips a ball better than grass/ normal wicket. [/QUOTE

 
Rubbish! Concrete doesn't grip at all! If you can turn a ball on concrete thn it will spin much more on a
 
Rubbish! Concrete doesn't grip at all! If you can turn a ball on concrete thn it will spin much more on a decent grass wicket.
 


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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:06pm
And I clearly haven't mastered the quote thing either.... LOL

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Posted By: Whitheand
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:16pm
don't you generally grip across the seam, which allows you to impart more spin on it.
Interesting theory, but I'll stick to the orthodox grip for my off-breaks. Might give it a quick try, though.


Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by Whitheand

don't you generally grip across the seam, which allows you to impart more spin on it.
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That is the general coaching method, although some people don't feel comfortable holding the ball across the seam, and a scrambled seam allows for more disguise.


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Posted By: revolutions
Date Posted: 11 April 2007 at 8:47pm

I know some one who bowls leg breaks like that he does not get alot of turn but gets enough, he uses his fingers rather than his wrist



Posted By: RubberWrist
Date Posted: 12 April 2007 at 7:46am
If your not getting alot of spin try spreading your fingers less over the seam.  If its uncomfortable to hold then bring your fingers in more.  I practise on grass and when i go to the nets which are concrete i have to turn it up a bit to get spin.


Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 12 April 2007 at 4:15pm
thats how bedser bowled his leg breaks

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Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by fishcake14

Originally posted by benkola13
 
It might not work on a normal wicket because concrete grips a ball better than grass/ normal wicket.
 
Rubbish! Concrete doesn't grip at all! If you can turn a ball on concrete thn it will spin much more on a decent grass wicket.
 
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concrete spins a mile
 
concrete spins a mile


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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:38pm
Sorry, unless the English concrete is different to Scottish concrete, it doesn't spin.

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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:57pm
Some concrete spin more than some. I have played on 2 type of concrete surface and one turned more than the other. One was a bit rougher and the other had like a sheen so the ball skidded. I had real hell batting on it saturday!

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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:08pm
That clears it up. We must ahve stupid concrete in Scotland because it has no spin whatsoever. LOL

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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:09pm

Is it like I described - skiddy?



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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:13pm
Nah, it's just rubbish! LOL

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Posted By: TheOldEnemy
Date Posted: 17 April 2007 at 10:51pm
i have to say to stop your row Tongue i think it depends completly on your delivery if your somneone who tosses it up alot normally finger spiners you are likely to get more turn on grass well short grass and wrist spinners who tend to send it at a more reasonable pace down the pitch i would have thought it would have turned the same depending on the net and grass i suppose.


Posted By: 70_degree_spin
Date Posted: 19 April 2007 at 10:21pm
i agree with fishy, concrete doesnt spin much at all but you still get plenty of wickets from the weird bounce

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Posted By: Pietersen Fan
Date Posted: 19 April 2007 at 10:35pm
can we open up a new thread called "the joys of concreat in cricket" i think it would be a real hit


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Posted By: benkola13
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 4:09pm
By concrete do you mean "all-weather"?

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Posted By: Freddie
Date Posted: 07 May 2007 at 4:16pm
No I mean my garden patio.

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