Brett Lee
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Category: Letter To The Editor
Forum Name: Player Discussion
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Topic: Brett Lee
Posted By: garrywarne
Subject: Brett Lee
Date Posted: 25 November 2007 at 7:42am
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Is he in career best form? Better at ODI or tests in New Zealand 2 year ago he couldn't bowl in ODI's now he's good, at it but more importantly, he's takin 16 wickets in the past 2 tests!
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 25 November 2007 at 8:21am
he's form of late has been well documented and I felt with the new responsibility it was time for him to shine- he has, now he has a series against India to test his character.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 25 November 2007 at 10:32am
Its the first time in his career (to my knowledge) that he has gone a good period without a worrying injury, so of course hes bowling better than ever, not having to worry about injuries he just recovered from.
I will give it to him though that he did seem in the mental mindset of being the leading man now.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 12:27pm
Good lad , Brett Lee ,I'm glad he's doing the business.
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Posted By: garrywarne
Date Posted: 26 November 2007 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by Sledger
Good lad , Brett Lee ,I'm glad he's doing the business.
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Same here, don't think he's a long term option though.
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Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 7:42am
I think he is, why wouldnt he be?
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 30 November 2007 at 8:06am
I think he means that he's over 30 Sam. That really isn't
relevant as Lee is very fit and with good luck could still be playing
in 6 years time.
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Posted By: michaelclarke
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 12:00pm
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what was Brett lee's fastest delivery.....i wanted to knowthis for a long time
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 9:23pm
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I think Brett Lee needs to slow down into Fast/Medium and use his faster ball as a surprise delivery, now that he's into his thirties, it will reduce wear and will have higher consistency, plus it will give him a deadly variation.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 5:35am
It'll give him plenty of time at home - if he can't bowl quick , he can't bowl for Australia.
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 8:45pm
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 11:49pm
They're completely different bowlers - you really have no clue, do you?
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:01am
Yes they are clearly completely different bowlers, thank you for that brilliant assertion. Now go and tell me that Warne and Murali are different bowlers to continue your streak.
Of course if you had actually read and considered the response you would have realized that I'm arguing for Brett Lee to vary his game to compensate for aging, and yes, become a different bowler. But reading goes a long way.
But I guess you must be an expert of the game....
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Posted By: The Tyke
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:41am
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Maybe you haven't realised something mate. Brett Lee is the Aussie's EXTREME PACE bowler.
They have Clark to do what McGrath did and if Lee can't keep his pace up then Aus will more than likely look for a replacement, and they normally have one or two waiting in the wings ready to grab that chance.
A good bowling attack is all about variation and as it stands the Aussie's have that.
Lee - Extreme Pace
Clark - Metronome Bowler
Johnson - Left Arm Pace
Add whatever 4th bowler you want to that and you have a pretty varied attack. That's why the Aussie bowling attack is successful and hard to play against.
All of them are good bowlers but the key is that they're different styles of bowlers. It's very hard to settle in against the bowlers because they're so varied.
------------- Minn hugur er minn sverš (My mind is my sword)
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 1:13am
Originally posted by TKORL
Yes they are clearly completely different bowlers, thank you for that brilliant assertion. Now go and tell me that Warne and Murali are different bowlers to continue your streak.
Of course if you had actually read and considered the response you would have realized that I'm arguing for Brett Lee to vary his game to compensate for aging, and yes, become a different bowler. But reading goes a long way.
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Ok. Let's change everything about Lee's bowling action and impetus he gains from consistent pace, accuracy, variation and swing. Let's remodell his action after the most successful summer he's ever had. Ever.
McGrath was never quick. He never had to be quick as he extracted seam movement from almost all surfaces - his action also enabled him to be considerably accurate. They're completely different bowlers.
Given the action of other forum members I think you should reconsider who and what you say before you make yourself look like even more of a fool.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 6:30am
Originally posted by The Tyke
Maybe you haven't realised something mate. Brett Lee is the Aussie's EXTREME PACE bowler.
They have Clark to do what McGrath did and if Lee can't keep his
pace up then Aus will more than likely look for a replacement, and they
normally have one or two waiting in the wings ready to grab that
chance. |
My sentiments exactly Tykey. Another thing too , nothing
to back it up , but I believe Lee would rather stop playing than
trundle in as a Shaun Pollock type bowler. He's an out and out quickie
and that's what fires him up.
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by The Tyke
Maybe you haven't realised something mate. Brett Lee is the Aussie's EXTREME PACE bowler.
They have Clark to do what McGrath did and if Lee can't keep his pace up then Aus will more than likely look for a replacement, and they normally have one or two waiting in the wings ready to grab that chance.
A good bowling attack is all about variation and as it stands the Aussie's have that.
Lee - Extreme Pace
Clark - Metronome Bowler
Johnson - Left Arm Pace
Add whatever 4th bowler you want to that and you have a pretty varied attack. That's why the Aussie bowling attack is successful and hard to play against.
All of them are good bowlers but the key is that they're different styles of bowlers. It's very hard to settle in against the bowlers because they're so varied. |
He may be extreme now, but in two years he won't be so extreme. Essentially what I'm saying is that he surpasses the rest of the Aussie bowlers, not just in pace, but in his judgement of line and length as well, and as such is a more talented bowler.
Not to mention that after him Australia has no EXTREME place bowlers. Johnson is F/M, Bollinger is fast but not really extreme, Tait hasn't shown he has the quality yet to make an impact on the bigger stage.
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by bondy
Ok. Let's change everything about Lee's bowling action and impetus he gains from consistent pace, accuracy, variation and swing. Let's remodell his action after the most successful summer he's ever had. Ever. McGrath was never quick. He never had to be quick as he extracted seam movement from almost all surfaces - his action also enabled him to be considerably accurate. They're completely different bowlers. Given the action of other forum members I think you should reconsider who and what you say before you make yourself look like even more of a fool. |
Ok, now where did I say Brett Lee should stop swinging the ball, lose accuracy, and variation? When did I advocate changing his action? First of all you absolutely cannot read what is in front of you, and to compensate for this utter cluelessness, you make up things and say, "Look you said this!!!".
My initial assertion was that Brett Lee should focus on becoming a bowler who relies more on "accuracy, swing, and variation" as he will be losing pace as he grows older. Not to mention, due to his smaller frame, it will be more difficult for him to generate a lot of pace consistently at older ages, perhaps causing injuries.
There is nothing particularly novel about changing his game later in his career, Akram and Walsh did it without any damage.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 28 March 2008 at 3:26am
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To even suggest Lee should slow down his pace at this point in his career gives not only myself but everyone here and indication of your cricketing knowledge.
You made a mistake. I can accept that, just don't try and cover your tracks my causing an argument with your superiors.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: TKORL
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 12:04am
Superiors? Laughable. You came up with a poor response and in place of coming up with reasonable arguments, you contrived to make up things I had never said.
I still do suggest Brett Lee should slow down and focus more on swing. He will be slowing down anyways whether he wants to or not.
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Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 7:54am
Most will disagree with you tkorl, he does not do enough with the ball and his main asset is pace, there are better swing bowlers around than lee will ever be.
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Posted By: hanif
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 6:58pm
i agree his pace is what makes him dangerous and also a good cricketing brain and the desire to succeed. he is a very useful batsmen and has agood eye for the ball. he always wants to give 100% so i cant see him ever toning down he would probably rather retire then hang on till he is replaced. it is great to see him performing at his best as the game seems to be running out of great pace bowlers, bondy retiring from international, harmy never really great too eractic, flintoff injured career could be over as a bowler. malinga is probably the only good pace bowler other than lee i do stand to be corrected though.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 10:04am
Originally posted by hanif
malinga is probably the only good pace bowler other than lee i do stand to be corrected though. |
Dale Steyn is right up there with the best now.
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Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 12:00pm
He most certainly is!
He has good records against NZ, West Indies, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Against SL and England he hasn't done so well - though these test were at the start of his career- and he's come along way since then.
Let's hope he destorys England when they meet, and can continue that form to the bouncy pitches in Australia. He is well set to become a devastating fast bowler.
------------- Good one Graham!
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Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 1:23pm
Ishant Sharma's not exactly been bad when he's been bowling, although it's probably a bit early to start judging him.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 01 April 2008 at 5:37am
Originally posted by bondy
Let's hope he destorys England when they meet, and can
continue that form to the bouncy pitches in Australia. He is well set
to become a devastating fast bowler.
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I've no problems with the Australian assessment bondy , but the first bit I hope is way off beam!
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Posted By: venom2011
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 8:31am
And I agree with Bondy's first bit in particular
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 10:54am
No surprise there matey!
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Posted By: bladescape
Date Posted: 05 July 2008 at 5:19am
Brett Lee won't slow down in my opinion till a year at most before he retires!(and that's unlikly)
Steyn,Sharma and Malinga are the pace men of today as far as I can see.
I think Lee is going to be the spearhead of the Aus attack for two years at least.(hopefully more)
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Posted By: lennonmichael
Date Posted: 20 December 2010 at 9:30am
Australian cricketer Brett Lee. After breaking into the Australian Test team, Lee was recognized as one of the world's fastest cricket bowling. He is an athletic outfielder and useful lower order batsman, and hit rate of over 20, cricket.
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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 4:56am
Originally posted by lennonmichael
Australian cricketer Brett Lee. After breaking into the Australian Test team, Lee was recognized as one of the world's fastest cricket bowling. He is an athletic outfielder and useful lower order batsman, and hit rate of over 20, cricket. |
See Basil Fawltyism.
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