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Is Irfan Pathan like Wasim Akram?

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Topic: Is Irfan Pathan like Wasim Akram?
Posted By: Rind
Subject: Is Irfan Pathan like Wasim Akram?
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 10:27am
I many times feel that Irfan bowl like Wasim.He has also get a little training from him and also use to get tips from him.



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:37am

Originally posted by Rind

I many times feel that Irfan bowl like Wasim.He has also get a little training from him and also use to get tips from him.

In other quotes as I have told,, u simply cant compare GOOD players with GREATS.

u cant compare anyone with Lara or sachin,

u cant compare anyone with jhonty when it comes to fielding and list goes endless ......GREAT's and GOOD's are always miles apart.

One series performance or couple of years good performance does not make a GOOD player GREAT.

GREAT players perform throught their carriers.      

Boss ,,, WASIM  is the greatest left hand bowler till date .Irfan is still very young and u cant compare him with WASIM.

Chaudhary was a great bowler with the highest wickets in ODI,Its good that he gave Irfan little tips  , but Ifran had an ear to listen to the great - thats attitude.

Well the bowling style and looks ,to a great extent are somewhat same,,, u can call GURU-SHISHYA [i mean Mentor - student].

But when it comes to batting ,,, Irfan is a complete player ,, coz many ppl dont know this ,, Irfan was chosen as a batsman when he was under 15.  



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:47am
keep making useless topics and you will surely beat sledger one day .no way i am going to compare that irfan crap to wasim. the reason you feel irfan is like wasim is that he copies his style and nothing.now dont tell me you wanna keep on discussing this for the next five pages or so. try to be more creative next time

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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 1:08pm
Pathan is an excellent bowler but he still has a long way to go and we will have to wait and see...

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Posted By: abub
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 6:06pm
wasim is great irfan is rubbish


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:39am
I totally agree with you...Irfan can't be compared to Wasim. Wasim was a great player...Irfan compared to Wasim is garbage...and we'll see what Irfan's accomplishments are by the end of his career. Wasim is the highest ODI wicket-taker. He holds other records as well.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 2:09pm
I m not comparing them.I just want to say Irfan is like Wasim Akram.But if compariing Wasim is Legend and Irfan is rising.


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 12:22am
Well, that makes sense. Irfan is like Wasim. He is a very good left-arm bowler and someday he might accomplish just as much as Wasim or even more.

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 12:56am
i as an indian say that wasim is better. he is almost a legend and pathan is still new and fresh. he may reach high levels but he will have to improve a bit more. when wasim bowls the batsmen feels the pressure. when pathan plays the pressure is felt but not as much as wasim. wasim is almost as gud as imran khan but not better

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Posted By: Ayas_Capri
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 11:13am
U cant rally compare Pathan with Wasim ..... U know the reason. He is quite new to the cricketing arena and only time will tell what Pathan will be after some years down the line....But currently his attitute and his mentality really show that he has the ability to be likes of Wasim and Imran......Good luck Pathan

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 11:40pm
Yea, you are correct, only time will tell if he is really like Wasim...but right now he looks like he certainly has the potential to be as good Wasim Akram.

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Posted By: lewy
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:56am
i do think so myself. and the kid can also bat. to me he seems to be the first genuine allrounder since kapil dev.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:12am
Yea, if you're talking about India, I certainly agree with you. He can bat and bowl.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 26 December 2005 at 9:08am
Wasim Akram was also a good all rounder but Pathan is also good.I m afraid he can take india to 1 position if he go like Wasim Akram


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 1:38pm
Wasim Akram was not an all-rounder. He could bat sometimes and even then, it's not like he had proper batting technique.

Irfan Pathan is certainly a better batsman then Wasim Akram, but Wasim is a much better bowler. I think Irfan Pathan could become like Wasim Akram.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:03pm
pathan at times can be a bit expensive but once he gets his first wicket hes a wicket taking machine

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:03pm
hes bowling average in test cricket is phenominal

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:43pm
His bowling averages in both forms of the game are great.

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Posted By: Big Josh
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 6:48am
He may become like him in the bowling prespective but with the bat Pathan is better

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 7:50am

Are u guys fools. Wasim is absolutely brilliant. He was sharp in pace, accurate enough, conventional swing both ways, reverse swing and he was a left armer, which gave variety.

He was alos a more then useful batsmen, clean striker of the ball. Hitting sixes was his forte. 12 sixes in an innnings against Zim, he got 257* that match, superb (not the best bowling attack, but still brilliant). Also he got a few more 100's in tests and was a handy player in the lower order for Paki and all of the 1st class teams he played for in England and Pakistan.

I rest my case.



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 9:20pm
He was a useful batsman but there is no way he was an all-rounder like some people claimed earlier in the thread.

I read a book called 'ESPN Legends of Cricket' and in that Sachin Tendulkar says "Wasim is an exceptionally talented all-rounder..."



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Posted By: Big Josh
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 12:50am
ok maybe Wasim was a great all-rounder towards the end of his career his batting to a great fall and i don't Pathan is going to be like that 

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:01am
Pathan's batting is no doubt better than Wasims but Wasim's bowling had so much variety, that its unbelievable and Pathans bowling won't have that kind of variety.

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:29pm
wasim is almost a legend. pathan is new. after maybe 7 years he might become like wasim not now.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:32pm
Ofcourse not now. Irfan Pathan is a good left-arm seamer but he doesn't have the variety that Wasim had. He doesn't have reverse swing. Wasim had conventional swing and reverse swing, both in great control. He had great control over his line and length. And with all those factors mixed together, he still had good pace.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:37pm

i have never seen wasim akram ball so i wouldn't have a clue if pathan bowls like wasim



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:40pm
Pathan comes no where near Wasim's bowling right now and I don't think he will ever have as much variety as Wasim did in his bowling. But Pathan could very well accomplish just as much as Wasim or even more if he continues like this.

He is only 21 and is already the spear-head of the Indian bowling attack so he could very well accomplish more than Wasim Akram. Irfan might become the first bowler in the history of cricket to take 500 test wickets, and 500 ODI wickets.

Why I think Irfan is going to accomplish all this is because he is so young and already so good, so if he continues on current form, he will turn out to be a great left-arm bowler.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:44pm

i knew pathan was young and fresh but 21 i didnt know that he could be the first to score 3000 test runs and 300wickets unless someone already done that if not then 4000 runs and 400 wickets



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 4:04pm
I am sure that he can acheive the feat of 4000 Test Runs and 400 Test wickets.

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Posted By: lewy
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 11:28pm
just give pathan his chance guys. he'll come through and in a big way. i was so surprised at his batting ability since the australia series last year. i feel that tryin to compare him to wasim akram is not right. the guy has potential, but he just needs some more time on both counts.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 11:48pm
Yea, well if he continues to perform like he is right now, he will become statistically another Wasim Akram with better batting stats.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:29am
So much pressure is being outg on him rite now with his bowling and his batting, he may crack if he is expected to bat in teh middle order and be the spearhead of the attack at only 21 with not much experience, they have to treat him very cautiously.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:31am
No probs mini , he is a strong young lad ,,with a good cricketing brain ,,,he can take any amount of pressure

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:32am
he is someone like a genuine bowler with limited batting ability ,, but uses it effectively and he has scope to impore it

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:33am

Irfan will keep on imporving his batting ability for next 3-4 years and become genuine batsman



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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:34am
Yeh, his defensive game isnt sound, but his batting is clever, plays shots aswell. But at the end of the day should focus his training on bowling, that is where he is needed forst.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:35am
ya that the catch ,, he knows and understands his primary responsibility

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:37am
Indeed, that is true, if he scores handy runs that is just awesome for India and more handy if he gets them when the Indian Batting line up doesnt fire, and doesnt score runs.
The runs he scores are a bonus, like that of Wasim Akram. I mean if the kid is getting 80's and 90's and other scires of note he is doing his national team a service.


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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:39am
yes truning Irfan into a usefull handy allrounder credit completely goes to the great Greg Chappell , coz he was the one who put beleif in Irfan that he has it in him to play well at the top

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:43am
yeh kudos to that legen greg, i was going to mention him before. I do not thing Ganguly utilised him very well and didnt handle him as a player very well. He didnt instill the belief in Irfan that Greg has goven him.

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Posted By: lewy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:22am
i think that he should devote time equally to both disciplines if he has thatmuch potential.

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Posted By: lewy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:34am
pathan seems to be a very good tempered individual. i think he'll be able to handle everything that is thrown at him.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:42am
yes maybe

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 3:31am
Well, Pathan is being used a lot by Dravid (bowling). He bats well too. Maybe, that will become a bit too much for him eventually as he ages or maybe he will cope with it even better as he gets experienced.


Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 5:43am
Pathan disappoints in Alianz Cup pak vs iondia test series


Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 5:51am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Well, Pathan is being used a lot by Dravid (bowling). He bats well too. Maybe, that will become a bit too much for him eventually as he ages or maybe he will cope with it even better as he gets experienced.

thats right he will develop a lota as a bowler when he plays a lot more matches and then i think  he ,may likely be compared to wasim.

i have heard that he got his lessons sform wasim . is that true??????????????



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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:12am
Yes it is true Pathan get training and tips from Wasim but he his himself a able person to got tips and he has proved himself.I m watching test match between Pakistan n India.Pakistan is 55\6 and Pathan is bowling vey well.


Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:22am
.I m watching test match between Pakistan n India.Pakistan is 55\6 and Pathan has bold hatrick.


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:09am
Amazing bowling by IK Pathan in this decider of the series.

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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:29pm
pathan is a real hero who has always rescued inida drom difficult situations even by batting .

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:00am

It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot.

But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time elapses.



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:04am
Originally posted by shan

It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot.

But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time passes on.

thats exactly what happened to Inzy of pakistan ,, pak didnt ever have a decent batsman at the top consistntly ,, so Inzy is ending his carrier with so many runs ,, coz every time he had to play [or as u said pllay] ,,

and the same thing applies when Inzy being compared to Sachin

Sachin was consistent for 90% of his carrier ,,,Inzy laked Consistency at of being at the top always



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:07am
Originally posted by shan

It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot.

But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time elapses.

In your words but morphed

It was good to see Inzy of late on fire. What an achievement.

But Inzy lacks consistency throught carrier, which was one of the major characteristics of Sachins entire carrier career. But as Pakistan does not have real batsman with talent, ever in their team, so Inzy would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream batsman, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety time is concernd, Inzy time is almost over ,, coz he will have to retire .



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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:11am

yeah i know the current form of Sachin, he has been a failure for too long now. Despite that u can give him a big hand. Big hand to little master.

What about Shahid Afridi, Krisdy, punishing indian attack like hell, they looked miserable when Afridi is on fire. Four sixes to Harbajan in a row, the poor soul. And Indians are way behind Pakistan, just see the records. So if u are always annoyed with Inzi or any other Pakistani player, it is quite undrestandable. Keep it up, but it wont help India a lot.



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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:14am

And if u still feel unsatisfied, just remember Salim Malik at Calcutta, when in last six overs Paksitan needed 66 to win and Malik ruined Indian bowlers, by leading Pakistan to victory.

And Javed Miandad, with a wonderful six, in Sharja Cup final. Still u may say. How does it feel mate?



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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:19am
And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:25am

Originally posted by shan

And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory.

for me all that counts was the four world cup matches btn India and Pakistan ,,, every time in front of the world ,,,,,when everyone was watching ,,, India have insulted pakistan .

and yes all those were on neutral pitches and not at sharjha



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:27am

Originally posted by shan

And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory.

moreover dont ever try to compare that stupid miandad with the great Sunil gavaskar ,,, minadad was nothing more that a street cricketer ,, he never had class , neither any records to show except for that last ball six



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:28am
Originally posted by shan

yeah i know the current form of Sachin, he has been a failure for too long now. Despite that u can give him a big hand. Big hand to little master.

What about Shahid Afridi, Krisdy, punishing indian attack like hell, they looked miserable when Afridi is on fire. Four sixes to Harbajan in a row, the poor soul. And Indians are way behind Pakistan, just see the records. So if u are always annoyed with Inzi or any other Pakistani player, it is quite undrestandable. Keep it up, but it wont help India a lot.

u talk of afridi ,, ha ha ha what dhoni did to shoaib ,, 4 fours in over ,,, shoiab was so frustrated that he bowled a beamer to stop him



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:31am
also what shewag did to naved ,,, in first match

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:21pm
Nothing equalizes Afridi's inflicting severe pain to India.They feel like hell while bowling to him. Whatever he is, inconsistent or whatever they really fear him.

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:24pm

And mate, Gavaskar was such a mean player, never played for the team. I have watched him a lot, never convinced that he was really a team player. He always batted India to defeat.

And Sharja is also a neutral place, it not part of Pakistan soil. Have u ever studied geography.......well just get a map and it would do the job.

U can call Miandad anything, i won't mind, becoz u don't even know Imran Khan. U r such an ignorant person.



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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:55pm
cman guyz stop comparing indain and pakistani players.

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Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:38pm
I have no idea if pathan is like akram because....I never saw Akram play before...but i know he is a legend....

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 8:22pm
Pathan doesn't have as much variation as Akram. Akram was certainly a better bowler but Pathan is the better batsman.

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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 10:08pm
i think irfan doesnot have the inswinging yorker  that wasim was well know for

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 11:08pm
Wasim was the master of reverse swing along with Waqar. He had all kinds of yorkers. Wasim had all kind of balls and all kinds of variation.

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 11:40am

Righto, Pathan is yet a kid with a lot of career ahead. He may develop from good to a great bowler, but one thing he would lack throughout his career is sheer pace, thats for sure. So no comparison with Wasim.



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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 10:34pm
what do u mean by sheer pace

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Posted By: Binish Yelling
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 4:14am
Wasim gave him some good tips specially about indipper and now you can clearly see him as a better bowler but I still think he need to work on his out swing its not that effective as Wasim's ones.

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 6:19am

Originally posted by prayas

what do u mean by sheer pace

Its fast fast and fast kid. You know what Wasim was really quick in beginning of his career. Afterwards he made some adjustments but still he was quicker than Pathan. And believe me, his balls after hitting the pitch moved like bullets. I mean he might not be that fast in the air but was able to generate great pace from the pitch.



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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 6:22am

And balls mean cricket balls, nothing else



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 04 February 2006 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by shan

Righto, Pathan is yet a kid with a lot of career ahead. He may develop from good to a great bowler, but one thing he would lack throughout his career is sheer pace, thats for sure. So no comparison with Wasim.



Exactly. Pathan will never have the pace of Wasim.

He MIGHT even master reverse swing, and conventional swing, and all the swinging yorkers, and all that stuff, but he will never have the pace of Wasim.

He is only 21 and bowls so slow, so obviously with age, he will either maintain this pace or get a bit slower.

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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 05 February 2006 at 10:30pm
well shan i think u think ur self superior than others. i am quike familiar with cricket  but i didnot get what did sheer means. that doesnot mean i am a kid ..........................................

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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 05 February 2006 at 10:33pm
about about pathan that is correct saad. i think he can never have the pace wasim did. and i also dont think that he can swing the bowl as wasim did. and who can forget the yorkers of wasim. his yorkers are simply perfect. it is a killer for most of  the batsmen

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 2:29am
Exactly. His yorkers not only broke the stumps but also the batsmen's feet.

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 6:06am

Originally posted by prayas

well shan i think u think ur self superior than others. i am quike familiar with cricket  but i didnot get what did sheer means. that doesnot mean i am a kid ..........................................

Come on don't take it as offense dear, i did'nt really mean it. I know that u know a lot about cricket. And don't think myself superior than anybody, rather i think actually i am not, coz there are so many wise people around here from whom i learn a lot. So never mind and cheers.



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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 11:21pm
well i didnot feel i got offended coz was just wondering the way u right that sentence,. thats it nothing more.

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 1:09pm

And u urself now say my sentence RIGHT. U mean i write my sentence in a way which was right. Right?

And believe me, there is a button called Edit, located just below your signatures, and if you wanna use that, nobody would question your abilities, rather JP would quite happy about it, as he says "He who makes no mistakes, does nothing, Use edit button."



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Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 5:01pm

i think pathan is a great young bowler but is still young, in time i think he will be one of the greatest all rounders to play the game

 



Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 5:13pm
Yes i agree Sehwag no.1


Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 10:03am
India is bent on making him an allrounder , but the load on fast bowlers has to be taken care of, adding batting load may effect his bowling!


Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 10:15am
Irfan Pathan has potential to become another wasim Akram, but he should be used properly, I think he should bat at No.6, rarely should be sent earlier, Dhoni should be used as pinchhitter. He has already lost a bit of pace , let him concentrate on his bowling more!


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 12:38am
Provided that India take some pressure off Pathan, he will break the record for most ODI wickets. He's young and really talented. He's already got 80+ ODI wickets at age 21.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 4:51pm
So Pathan is like Akram

Wasim retired under the pressure of PCB but he could play and would get more wickets and its my view that even now if he come to ground he will still very difficult to play because he is the best bowler ever in history of cricket.

I like Pathan he give me reflection of Wasim.


Posted By: sosolidsingh
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 7:34pm
Pathan has definitely got the potential to become like Wasim. Rarely has anybody achieved so much by the age of 21. He is one of the worlds most feeared bowlrs and also devloped into an excellent batemen - who if he kept improvong at this rate mite even make the side on batting alone in a year! (alhough I obviously think his bolwing is more important). I agree that he appears to have lost some pace but maybe thats because of the strain he put in on the lifeless pakistani pitches and the hectic recent schedule. Also he has the abiltity to become much faster than he is beacesue he just has to change his thumb grip to along the seam not across it.He is aware of this though and can change it whne he wants so that is not an issue. I beleive we will see hte best of him in the helpful windies conditions as he has been bowling in flat subcontinent conditons. I feel his battin is already at, probably past wasims levcel and his bowling has the potenntial to become as good as he wants because he is young and willing to learn. So watch out over the next few years for the HOTTEST PROPRTY IN WORLD CRICKET!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Mahrukh
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 8:06pm
I think this woould be the first time I will agree to krisdy . Pathan is scores away from Akram . He can try to be like him as he is his idol but can never actually be AKRAM. One can just follow ones idols and learn from then but cannot be them . Great personalities don't often have matches.

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:01pm
Where is saadadvanced? Long time no see.

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:02pm
Must have gone on holiday.



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:46am
Guess whoooo's baaaack? SAADADVANCED7!!!

Anyway, I'm sure that as a bowler Irfan cannot be like Wasim. He will never have as much pace as Wasim, as much control as Wasim, as much variety as Wasim! Wasim had, in my opinion the biggest variety of balls!


Posted By: Hawk Eye
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 10:13am

why is it that the indian players are compared with all time greats, bhaje vs Murali, Pathan vs Wasim , sehwag vs Inzimam, yuvraj vs Ponting .........!

they have just started to play and have a long way to go, there is no comparison of such kind and such stupid threads should just be ignored..........



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 10:18am
I just said that IK Pathan's skills cannot be compared to Wasim's but at the end of his career, his acheivements will probably be compared with Wasim's.


Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 10:54am

hawkeye its not the indians who r starting this thread its the pakistani supporters. so first just check who has started this thread and then comment on anything.

if they r to be ignored then why r u giving your valuable comments in this type of forums

i also want this type of threads to be deleted but i can't do anything



Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 5:01am
his action may be like wasim but now hes too much down on pace hes bowling in the mid 120's(kmph)


Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 1:26pm
There is no comparison here.its just that pathan styles is like wasim.
acutualy he copies wasim
copies cannot be better thann orignal
Great players like Wasim have no comparison


Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 1:30pm
if u knew this rind, then why did u start this thread. all of us know that wasim is a legend and pathan has still miles to go before he cand be compared to wasim.


Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 1:42pm
what was my question?
is pathan like wasim?
i never wrote who is better?
so what u say now


Posted By: musab
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:59pm
i think that too


Posted By: fishcake14
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:04pm
Wow! That added a lot to a conversation from last century.

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Posted By: Freddie
Date Posted: 26 February 2007 at 5:19pm
Musab stop replying to threads that have been inactive for nearly a year, can't you reply to the active threads instead?

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