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Who is more aggressive Afridi or Sehwag?

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Topic: Who is more aggressive Afridi or Sehwag?
Posted By: Rind
Subject: Who is more aggressive Afridi or Sehwag?
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 10:30am
What do you think is more agressive between Afridi and Sehwag?



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:22am

stats say - AFRIDI  is more aggressive , and stats are facts.

        But I really dont want to hurt ,,, AFRIDI is a FLUKE ,,,.Ask youself, how many times he has dissapointed all pakistanis. He simply swings the bat , Poor technique ,,,very limited shots ,,, technically horrible,balance and head positon during his shots .

In all ,,, he hits if the "Ball comes in way of the BAT"

      Shewag is a complete player ,, but he too HAD lot of Grey areas in his batting . Still some weakness in him is there ,,, but He has improved a lot in both the forms of the game.

        Well both are aggressive ,,, but shewag has matured as a player and approaches the controlled aggression.

Some records for the two:

AFRIDI:

1000 runs - oct 97
2000 runs - jun 99
3000 runs - oct 2000
4000 runs - sep 2004
203 mat,avg - 24,4 hundreds,26 fifties,173 wkts

SHEWAG:

1000 runs - sep 2002
2000 runs - mar 2003
3000 runs - sep 2004
4000 runs - Nov 2005

139 mat,avg - 32.15, 7 hundreds,19 fifties,66 wkts

Shahid afridi could have been a great player only if he was handeled correctly, see the difference in shewag ;already a vice captain ; Very healthy TEST avg ; Negotiates opening in tests too;Has a 300 score in tests also.  



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Posted By: abub
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 12:32pm
ure right afridi is very good just because he swings the bat doesnt mean hes rubbish. look at sehwag wat he does hes a scoring chance he efends it


Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 1:01pm
In all honesty Afridi is the more aggresive player but Sehwag is the far better player. Sehwag you can always depend for quick runs, Afridi you cannot. Both have excellent strike rates, Afridi over 100 and Sehwag on 97

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 9:18am
Sehwag is the better player because he is more consistent and aggresive...but afridi without a doubt is more aggressive than Sehwag.

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Posted By: SANTECH
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 10:50am
Use the word more IRRRESPONSIBLE for players like Afridi.He does not come to bat with plan in his mind. he doesnot even read the pitch.He just waves his bat .. does not even know in which direction bat is moving.He is not even comparable to other batsmens.Its better to compare Gilchrist and Dhoni or sehvag or gilchrists who will be knowing where is their bat moving.(leave abt where ball moving)

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 11:01am

Originally posted by SANTECH

Use the word more IRRRESPONSIBLE for players like Afridi.He does not come to bat with plan in his mind. he doesnot even read the pitch.He just waves his bat .. does not even know in which direction bat is moving.He is not even comparable to other batsmens.Its better to compare Gilchrist and Dhoni or sehvag or gilchrists who will be knowing where is their bat moving.(leave abt where ball moving)

Well said santech



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Posted By: Mebz
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 2:31pm
well said rind


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:25pm
Actually, that's wrong...Afridi is not more dangerous, he is only more aggresive, but he isn't consistent with his aggresiveness and that brings him down. Sehwag is more dangerous because he is a bit less aggressive but is consistent along with aggressiveness which makes him more dangerous.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 2:13pm
U dont know when Afridi comes on batting fielders go in boundries,No bowler is good or bad for him he treat equaly them.


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 12:43am
Afridi is a slogger. It's a hit or miss game for him. He hardly ever performs. Sehwag is aggressive and consistent.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 4:02am

Originally posted by Rind

U dont know when Afridi comes on batting fielders go in boundries,No bowler is good or bad for him he treat equaly them.

Majority of time he comes during feilding restrictions , i.e First 15 overs ,, so how can the fielders go to boundaries?????

Secondly when he comes lower down the order ,,, the feilding team captains know that soon after a WILD SLOG or two ,, he wont be able to clear the ropes ,, So they place fielders to get the catches .

After all a Hopeless loser with a petty 24 average is nothing but SHAME .

I can say he is luckiest player to get so many chances for pakistan.

Well it is because of the fact that pakistan never really produced a World class batsman , none infact not even one ,, so they are going to stick with bit and pieces batsman.

Pakistan always had world class bowlers, Inzi comes close to being World class batsman ,, but his record is not good all the way. He has been awfully hopeless during many seasons.



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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 5:43am
Afridi scares the hell out of fielding sides and especially bowlers! He's not a slogger , he's just got an incredible eye and when he middles it , it's sent into orbit!!

What you're forgetting is his underrated bowling. He takes plenty of wickets with his legspin and that can't be ignored.

I'll tell you something , if Pakistan win the world cup , Shahid Afridi will have a great deal to do with it.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 6:07am

Originally posted by Sledger

Afridi scares the hell out of fielding sides and especially bowlers! He's not a slogger , he's just got an incredible eye and when he middles it , it's sent into orbit!!

What you're forgetting is his underrated bowling. He takes plenty of wickets with his legspin and that can't be ignored.

I'll tell you something , if Pakistan win the world cup , Shahid Afridi will have a great deal to do with it.

Saad is there any other world cup involving only teams like

SL ,Pak, Bangla,Zim,WI , UAE,France,Kenya,Holland ,Ireland , canada,   etc etc...

Then ur words will definately come true.



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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 6:10am
Krisdy , I wrote that , not Saad !!

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 6:24am
oops ,,,, but I think I was correct

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 6:39am
You lil devil!!    I know you're an Indian fan , but Pakistan are a good side too .

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Posted By: littlethala
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 7:05am

Really Shewag was best, better than Afridi in all activities. Even in bowling also shewag had helped many times by his bowling too.

I also Loves Shewag and dislove s Afridi



Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 7:13am
Sehwag is a fine opener and a decent off spinner Thala ,but Afridi is a more potent wicket taker.

I think they're both terrific and on their day can turn any match . Let's just say they are fine players.   

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 8:35am
I say that Afridi's bowling is obviously better but his batting isn't consistent enough. He is the most aggressive player in International cricket, but he isn't consistent. Just look at his averages. They've been dropping.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 2:51pm

who has make the quickest 100 runs...Sehwag......ooooooooooo.sory its Afridi.



Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 2:54pm
My question is who is more agressive.Many of you says Afridi but he is not consistent.I think this poll wins by Afridi because the only answer is agressive and he is Afridi


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:26am
You are right Rind. Afridi is not as consistent as Sehwag but there is no doubt that he is much more aggressive than Sehwag.

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 7:24am
I think you're all missing the point here. Afridi is a fine team man in that he goes out there and fulfills the wishes of his coach and captain. What is he asked to do?

Simple , go out there and smash it to all corners of the ground!

It's a VERY high risk scenario , but when he comes off , Pakistan WIN!!

I'll bet if you ask Woolmer or Inzamam what is Afridi's average , neither would know ,or more to that point , care !

He brings something to the side that other countries would kill for - someone who can destroy ANY form of bowling and win a game in the 1st 20 overs.

Gilchrist can do it , so can Sehwag , Jarasuriya used to do it too - but no-one has ever launched the ball like Afridi , he really is dynamite and every bowlers worst nightmare.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 11:08pm
Yea, you are certainly correct. There is no one that has as much aggression as Afridi.

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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 10:23am
afridi ismore agressive in my opinion


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 1:48pm
It's a fact that Afridi is more aggressive. That's why he isn't consistent, because he is too aggressive. He just wants every ball to go out of the ground.

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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 2:05pm
Well then the answer to the question judging from the peoples opinions is that Afridi is more aggressive

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 2:12pm
Afridi is more aggressive than any other player in International cricket.

It's a fact, not an opinion.

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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 8:30am
As far as aggression is concerned,I wud go for Afridi..But sehwag is comparitively consistent and had a better technique eventhough his footwork is poor

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Posted By: TANZ
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:15pm

no one is more aggressive then afridi aggression is his middle name.

afridi is probably sawags role model but he will never be like him or as good as him



Posted By: Mebz
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:30pm
yep


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 13 December 2005 at 11:42pm
Yea, if you look at only aggression, Afridi is the man. Afridi is the most aggressive player in International cricket.

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Posted By: Moazzam Ali
Date Posted: 15 December 2005 at 4:23pm
Agreed. as for as the aggressiveness is concerned the Afridi is the best and also  i want to mention Abd-ul- Razaq; he is alos aggressive. Remember his great aggressivenesses. E.g. five fours to Glenn Mcgrath and what he did today. 51 of 22 balls not out. I think in his innings He is 70 times aggrssive.  

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 16 December 2005 at 1:19am
Razzaq is very aggressive but too bad he doesn't do it very consistently. The 50 off 22 balls was amazing. Why are we talking about Razzaq?

Afridi is more aggressive than Sehwag and any other player in the history of cricket.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 25 December 2005 at 2:54pm
Afridi the most dangerous player


Posted By: Canadian Rocket
Date Posted: 26 December 2005 at 7:02am

Afridi is defin. much more aggressive than Sehwag!

Only if he can master the word *patience* life would be much better and enjoyable for him, not that it isn't but it would be much better!



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 December 2005 at 10:03pm
That's right. Afridi is way more aggressive than Sehwag, and he only needs patience. If he was just a bit more patient, he would be consistent, and aggressive.

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Posted By: Canadian Rocket
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 7:59am

exactly!!!

 



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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 9:07am

Sehwag is still a better player at the end of the day, taht is what counts, NOT agression. Sehwag scores his runs fast enough as it is, and actually gets runs too.

Shahid Afridi 1st got into the Paki team as a 16 yr old leg spinner, not as a slogger



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:52pm
That's right. Shahid Afridi surprised everyone by hitting the fastest century in his maiden ODI inning.

Sehwag is the better player even though he is a bit less aggressive. Afridi is just complete agression and that doesn't do him good.

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Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 8:37pm
Afridi is most dangerous and Sehwag is improved form of Afridi


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 10:45pm
no no no! Sehwag is more dangerous... because he is aggressive and consistent. Afridi is only considered dangerous because he can hit a couple of sixes each time he comes in to bat. Afridi needs to be patient.

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Posted By: proudpakistani
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 9:48am
Afridi is more aggressive and good player than sehwag. Sehwag is lucky.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 9:54am
Sorry u have that the wrong way, Afridi is lucky. Sehwag got into both ICC test and ODI teams, he has class. Afridi has no class whatsoever.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 11:01am

Com on stick to the topic,what class has to do with most aggressive, we can discuss about class in stylish one, Most aggressive batsman in the world is AFRIDI, sehwag lags miles behind, dhoni, gilchrist,symonds, cairns, razzack,are a lot better than sehwag, please compare afridi with dhoni.

I am sorry but none of these batsman have any class whatsoever the only thing they know is to throw their bats on evrything, and this is what evrybody wants from them, there are lot many batsmen to show class.



Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 11:04am
ICC world 11 was a piece of rubbish, and the results showed that too! totally ill concieved by some biased individuals, now ICC has shelved the idea for ever. Thanks Mr. Gavaskar & Co.


Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 3:27pm
according to me agressive doesn't mean six and four. its getting ur runs fast. one run or 2 runs almost every ball will help u make a 100 in just 85 balls. afridi is a fluke. sehwag is a better batsmen.

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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 7:40pm
No doubt about that, Sehwag is the better batsman. 

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Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 10:59pm

there is alot of indian bias in these posts..Veeru is a wonderful stroke maker, one of the best in the world, but has the same technical problems outside the off stump as afridi..jus to put things into prospective..afridi has hit almost 300 sixers in one day cricket, he has batted all over the batting order, especially in the lower order, which explains his average of 24..ask any genuin cricket fan, one day cricket is about strike rate, which afrdid excells in, he has scored runs against all nations, even in autralia, and lets not forget what he did to the indian bowlers in india in 2005! why dnt u ask them about afridi's talents.

he along side sehwaq are great for cricket, we should be greatful that they are both asian players! the current series in pakisatn will seperate the men amongst the boys.

 

 



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Posted By: capital_s
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 8:15pm
Sehwags the better player but afridi is defeniitly the more aggressive, too
aggressive if you ask me.

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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

Sorry u have that the wrong way, Afridi is lucky. Sehwag got into both ICC test and ODI teams, he has class. Afridi has no class whatsoever.


I will totally agree on this. Sehwag was an early talent spotted for his batting. He played in the 1998 under 19 world cup as a batsman and now almost 8 years he is prospering with the bat.

Afridi on the other hand was selected as a bowler. He was not known for his batting before he got selected. He just hits whichever ball he sees without timing it properly (which bowler cannot do that?)


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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 1:57am
All this talk about talent, class, and technique is garbage. We are talking about who is more aggressive and the simple answer is SHAHID AFRIDI.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 2:51am
Agressive does not just mean SIXES and FOURS it means always looking to score runs just about every ball and quickly. Shahid doesnt look to score runs, he looks to slog. That is it.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 6:53am

where did you get this definition of aggressive, the best strike rate, the most sixes, makes you most aggressive, the one that comes to mind is AFRIDI,

you start a topic and them wander here and their to fit in your favourites, sehwag does not come near to aggression shown by afridi, yes he gives you a chance evry ball, Ok think of Afridi, sehwag, gilchrist, cairns, dhoni, batting for 50 balls , who will score more!



Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:00am
Yes, but Afridi bats for 50 balls like once a decade.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:00am
Originally posted by wiseguy

where did you get this definition of aggressive, the best strike rate, the most sixes, makes you most aggressive, the one that comes to mind is AFRIDI,

you start a topic and them wander here and their to fit in your favourites, sehwag does not come near to aggression shown by afridi, yes he gives you a chance evry ball, Ok think of Afridi, sehwag, gilchrist, cairns, dhoni, batting for 50 balls , who will score more!

JOKE : For 50 balls definately anyone of these sehwag, gilchrist, cairns, dhoni but not AFRIDI

Reason : Can afridi play for 50 balls consistently against good attack without holing OUT like a wet duckling  and on truer pitches



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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:04am
again running away from the discussion, even he bats for once, but produces the best, why couldnt any of other highly consistent and highly aggressive score a hundred in lesser balls than AFRIDI!


Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:05am
MY question is who will score more, if all of these bat for 50 balls? pls answer that honestly


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:05am

What Afridi gets past 50 balls like once a decade.



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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:14am
what will he score in that? you idiot answer the question, and give average of 200 innings of other greats in 50 balls


Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:20am

Originally posted by wiseguy

what will he score in that? you idiot answer the question, and give average of 200 innings of other greats in 50 balls

do u think it is usefull to take the stats of 200 inning of all the better genuine player excluding Afridi and arrive at a conclusion which everyone knows that Afridi is the most hopless , sick , talentless ,foolish , zero-brain slogger and nothing else .

Come on ,, he would'nt have played 25 matches if he was an australian .

and rest of the wolrd teams would have sacked him for ever after 50 matches ,,, its only u pakistan that have allowed that foolish fluke of all time to play over 200 matches.

The more we discuss the more afridi get insulted.. so it better that u realise the fact that Afridi is noting but a joker who comes on age once in a blue moon.



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:21am
do u want more ??????,,,Mini,sledger and others would murder this thread

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:22am
well I am for lunch ,,, will be back in anathor hour.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:22am

afridi's single innings in a decade would be more aggressive than 200 inings by sehwag in a year or say for a decade!



Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:23am

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%

TRUE KRISDY!! KUDOS.

he is crap, he wouldnt even get into the Tasmania Under 10's Sate side.

Waste of space, wouldnt get a game for anyother team except Zim and Ban, maybe WI (lack a spinner)

He is the worst player to comeout of Pakistan, he ia joke, a fluke and a selfish inconsistent man.

You see people talk about Symonds, Dhoni, Gilly, Cairns and Pietersen as great strikers of the ball. They are all 1 million classes above Afridi.



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:24am
Originally posted by wiseguy

afridi's single innings in a decade would be more aggressive than 200 inings by sehwag in a year or say for a decade!

hi wise read my comments in PINK ,, thats insult for a lifetime for afridi not a decade



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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:25am
Simple question is whos more aggressive,we are not asking consistency, class, color, creed, selection, droping, teams, so answer the question ? have a good lunch because the low suger is effecting your thought process


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:28am

Like i said before aggression isnt only SIXES and FOURS. You could say BBevan was aggressive,because he was an aggressive and lightening fast runner between the wickets and got many 2's and 3's when t he y shouldhave been 1's and 2's and he got the odd four and six.



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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:31am

Such  alow key player like afridi, doesnt deserve to be in a B team, but if he has scored three centuries against a test team like india I believe that team should be relegated to B catagory!

Your comments in pink have been great, can you write something about Dhoni, the most stylish batsmen? from india



Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:35am
if you have a clear definition of aggressive player, I still believe bevan will always be considred the best amongst aggressive players, infact my best oneday player of all times is bevan second only by dean jones, but if you go by strike rate for being aggressive, than it should be AFRIDI


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:37am
a good SR requires a good average, pending on where u bat most of the time.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 7:37am
bevan could bat on any time and any surface a complete match winner, best to have evr played one day cricket


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 8:20am

Yes indeed, he also dramatically improved his ability against short pitched bowling.

He was also a handy left arm chinamen bowler, he got 10 wickets in a match including 6 in the 1st innings!!

He had a very good wrong 'un (googly) whoch was extremely hard ot pick.

One reason why Paul Adams (stupidest and most dumb action i have ever seen), Bevan, Katich and Hogg were so successful was becuase Chinamen bowlers are extremely rare and harder to pick. (Paul Adams and Katich to a lesser extent, only Adams at start of career)



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 8:23am

Originally posted by wiseguy

Simple question is whos more aggressive,we are not asking consistency, class, color, creed, selection, droping, teams, so answer the question ? have a good lunch because the low suger is effecting your thought process

Hi wise ,, u seem to be bit of doc tooo!!!!!

okies ,, well tell me one thing ,,,let me explain you in pakistani style ...assume Inzy or Yohana or any of your good pakistani player ,,,,if they decide to just hit the ball from the word go ,,,what would have happened to their SR????,,, Inzy/Yohana would easily have had Strike rate of well above 130 in ODI and Tests both ,, but would they got some many runs if they had slogged ??? tell me the answer for this ???? .

Well the suger intake has had effect on me ,,, coz I hope I have made you understand in a better way!



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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 8:28am
Originally posted by wiseguy

Such  alow key player like afridi, doesnt deserve to be in a B team, but if he has scored three centuries against a test team like india I believe that team should be relegated to B catagory!

Your comments in pink have been great, can you write something about Dhoni, the most stylish batsmen? from india

Regarding Dhoni ,,the best thing to happen to India ,,,,I simply like him and just want to watch his batting.

Well the 183 of 140 odd balls agaisnt SL and

148 of 123 balls against Pak ,,,,, dosent mean that he is a class player ,,,I want such scores against Eng,aus and NZ in foreign pitches

he has to prove again and again for me to say the he is the next gilchrist .....but he is a nice prospect.

Regarding his keeping ,,he has got still lot to impove



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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 8:52am

Below are afridis records

If a player can keep up his strike rate for 216 one days in scoring 4700 runs, he has done something marvelous, look for your self the records of Afridi, 449 fours and 213 sixes a splendid effort, he has a score of more than 50 in every 9th innings he plays , looks a good enough consistancy for an entertainer I never recognise him a class player , the biggest benefit is his fielding and aggressive bowling and an attitude which all other cricketing nations admire, a great man to have in any one day side!

class

 mat

 inns

 no

 runs

 hs

 ave

 bf

 sr

 100

 50

 4s

 6s

 ct

 st

Tests

  20

  37

  1

  1290

  141

  35.83

  1608

  80.22

  3

  7

  171

  34

  9

  0

ODIs

  216

  207

  9

  4765

  109

  24.06

  4397

  108.36

  4

  26

  449

  213

  80

  0

With that I rest my case!



Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 8:55am
Originally posted by wiseguy

Below are afridis records

If a player can keep up his strike rate for 216 one days in scoring 4700 runs, he has done something marvelous, look for your self the records of Afridi, 449 fours and 213 sixes a splendid effort, he has a score of more than 50 in every 9th innings he plays , looks a good enough consistancy for an entertainer I never recognise him a class player , the biggest benefit is his fielding and aggressive bowling and an attitude which all other cricketing nations admire, a great man to have in any one day side!

class

 mat

 inns

 no

 runs

 hs

 ave

 bf

 sr

 100

 50

 4s

 6s

 ct

 st

Tests

  20

  37

  1

  1290

  141

  35.83

  1608

  80.22

  3

  7

  171

  34

  9

  0

ODIs

  216

  207

  9

  4765

  109

  24.06

  4397

  108.36

  4

  26

  449

  213

  80

  0

hey see this 20:20 game extract form RSA vs Aus

Batsmen: R B 4s 6s S/R
http://live.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/6513.html - - JR Hopes (RHB) 10 15 1

0

 

66.67 Non-striker

Did u see what daimen martyn is doing ,,, he is just slogging ,, so his stirke rate is so good ,,,, the same thing afridi does in 50 over match ,, they y he is a fool ,,,,, see if any of the other batsman would have played like fluke afirdi ,,then they would have averaged more than 200 ,, but only to score and average less

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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:05am
I have already rested my case, you always say " I go by stats and stats say"  so what do stats say pls follow that and keep your believes to your dear self!


Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:12am

ya reality bites

Martyn's SR in ODI [50 over match] is 78... but

As of now in 20:20 Match he's Strike rate is about 160 to 170 ,,,, this shows that every batsman is capable of slogging ,, but only they are not foolish to let their team suffer in 50 over match ,,,just to have the highest SR in the world.

I rest my case here.



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:14am
WOW! That's one long discussion and I actually read every single post in it after the one that I made yesterday!

Anyway, I agree with wiseguy, Afridi is more aggressive then Dhoni, and I don't even know why you people (Krisdy and MiNiWaRnEy) are argueing that.

Let me tell you guys(Krisdy and MiNiWaRnEy) something. "Aggression is defined as*The act of initiating hostilities or invasion.*The practice or habit of launching attacks.*Hostile or destructive behavior or actions."

No one displays that definition as good as Afridi.

Aggression is simply what the definition says and you guys cannot change the definition. No where does it say anything about consistency being a part of aggression!

So now, you guys (Krisdy and MiNiWaRnEy) can just shut up!

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:34am
Right you are! 100000000000000000000000%


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:36am
Thank you for your support wiseguy! I think I've made my point!

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:42am

I believe everyone should stick to records, we all have are favourites, but it does not mean they are the best, these guys quote records whenevr favour their argument and beat about their views whensome one else has better stats.



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:46am
Exactly! I already stated the definition of aggression and that is best displayed by Afridi's record.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:48am

okie ,,,I hope afridi plays like he has been playing for all these years ,, averaging 17 overseas ,, and 27 in Asian subcontinet ,, still with SR of about 108.

It good for all other the teams ,, I just hope he increases his SR to 115 or 120 coz obviously in doing so his avg will further fall to 15 to 20 all time.

I am happy with dhoni's avg of 45+ and 103+ SR ;shewag's avg 33+ and SR of 97+ ;sachin's avg 44+ and SR 85+ etc etc



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:52am
Well, FINALLY...its about time you stop arguing the fact that Afridi is the most aggressive batsman in the world.

Anyway, I don't like Afridi's over-aggression at all. It is useless. Look at his poor average of 24. That is disgusting. He is so aggressive but he isn't consistent and that makes him useless as a batsman. Dhoni has a SR of over 100 but he has an amazing ODI average of 45. That's outstanding.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:53am

Inzy where are you ???????? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Avg of 40.22 and Strike rate of hopeless 74.47



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:55am
WHAT? What are you talking about? When did Inzi get into this discussion.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 9:58am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

WHAT? What are you talking about? When did Inzi get into this discussion.

whats worng in stats and facts ... some more for you

Inzy and Rahul dravid are hopeless in ODI's ... but rahul is class act in Test but Inzy averages 7 runs less then rahul for every innings



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:01am
Dravid, where are you? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Average of 40.19 and a hopeless strike rate of 70.16!

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:03am

oh ,, I was browsing through all the so called great's of cricket in both forms of the game ,, both in ODI and test ... fianlly My faith has re-inforced ,,, when you see SR+AVG in ODI's and AVG in Tests ,,, really only two players are the best for all these years

Sachin followed by Lara ..... yes my Golden bracket has to be modified

{1st Sachin,2nd Lara ,and no one else}



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:05am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Dravid, where are you? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Average of 40.19 and a hopeless strike rate of 70.16!

thts what I told both Rahul and Inzy are waste in ODI's

They avg same in ODI ,, but Inzy SR in 4 runs more per hundred balls ,,, while In tests where SR dosent matter ,,, Dravid averages 7 runs more per innings of test match.



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:07am
Actually your 'Golden Bracket would also have to include Ponting as he has a better ODI and Test average than Lara.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:08am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Actually your 'Golden Bracket would also have to include Ponting as he has a better ODI and Test average than Lara.

yes ,, if he performs like this for anathor 3-4 years he might overtake sachin and Lara on final counts



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:08am
Originally posted by krisdy

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Dravid, where are you? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Average of 40.19 and a hopeless strike rate of 70.16!


thts what I told both Rahul and Inzy are waste in ODI's


They avg same in ODI ,, but Inzy SR in 4 runs more per hundred balls ,,, while In tests where SR dosent matter ,,, Dravid averages 7 runs more per innings of test match.



Actually Inzi has a better ODI average by 0.03!

But then Dravid has a better test average by 7 runs.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:10am

again the thread is Revese swinging form actual topic to again

Lara Vs sachin Vs Inzy Vs Pointing



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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:11am
Originally posted by krisdy

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Actually your 'Golden Bracket would also have to include Ponting as he has a better ODI and Test average than Lara.


yes ,, if he performs like this for anathor 3-4 years he might overtake sachin and Lara on final counts



Well, he's already over-taken Sachins Test average which has been on the drop lately. He has a better test average then both Lara and Sachin and he has a better ODI average then Lara.

If he continues like this, then he will over-take Sachin and Lara in no time.

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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:11am
anyways ,, the thread was a real fun to participate ,,, I thoughly enjoyed as much as wiseguy and mini warney and saad to end up with

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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 10:12am
Originally posted by krisdy

again the thread is Revese swinging form actual topic to again


Lara Vs sachin Vs Inzy Vs Pointing



Well, that's because the actual topic has already been decided.

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