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Topic: Would any one want help with spin?
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Subject: Would any one want help with spin?
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 2:25am

If any one in this forum would like some help with bowling wrist and/or finger spin i am more then happy to help out.

I can help u bowl leg breaks, wrong uns, top spinners, off breaks and arm balls.  I am still working on the flipper and slider, i gave up on the doosra - impossible (nearly) to bowl it without chucking it.




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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 2:59am
I am a fast bowler but I also try and bowl off-spin. I can do the googly very well and I am pretty good at off-spin. But I just want to know how I can spin the ball even more when doing off-spin. I am a left-handed bowler.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 4:10am
u r left arm orthodox ayy. Make sure u cock your wrist in the correct position, not too much not too little. Also make sure you full rotate ur fingers and wrist at the point of delivery, if u r holding the ball correctly and at the correct seam postion this will help.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 9:40am
Alright! Thanks a lot.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 9:42am
No problems mate

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Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 4:28pm
I'm trying to figure how to do the flipper.... could u hel[?

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 4:54pm
I can do the flipper pretty good but I don't know how to explain it very well.

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Posted By: safran
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 11:33pm

I recently started spinning and can spin it both ways.  But am i a off spinner or a leg spinner whats the difference?

or can one do both ? does shane warne off spin in a match and does murali leg spin in a match ? as muarlie is an off spinner and shane is a leg spinner.

OR am i a mix of both? how do i Know?



Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 1:01am
Warne kind of uses off spin...when he bowls the wrong'un... murali is the same but called the doosra.

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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 1:55am
when i try to ball the top spinner it comes out just like the leg break....how do you do the top spinner pproperly?



Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 1:56am
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

I can help u bowl leg breaks, wrong uns, top spinners, off breaks and arm balls.  I am still working on the flipper and slider, i gave up on the doosra - impossible (nearly) to bowl it without chucking it.



what are arm balls?



Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 3:55am

Arm balls are sort of an out swinger, they go straight, so instead of spinning in to a right hander it goes straight on.

Warne doesnt bowl off spin at all, a wrong-un' is not an off break, it is bowled with a leg spin action and with a leg spin grip, but u rotate your wrist in an anti-clockwise fashion



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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 6:57am
how do you bowl top spinners?


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 6:58am
A leg spinners toppie or an off spinners toppie

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Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 7:54am
Hey, about the flipper... i know how to bowl the delivery,.. but I'm struggling with the grip... Could you Plesase help?

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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 9:58am
legs top spinner and off top spinner


Posted By: safran
Date Posted: 23 December 2005 at 2:39pm
you guys havent answered my question guys. lol


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 12:35am
Okay an offies toppie is a delivery which is bowled with the same grip but u turn your wrist to face the seam up to the batsman. The ball will go straight.

Leggies toppie is bowled with the same leg spin grip but ur habd ends up facing at the batsmen wen u finish, ball will go straight.
PRATCISE BOIS!!!!!!


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Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 4:10am

Can you plz tell me the grip of a flipper?



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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 9:15am
thanks warney


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 1:09pm
Wow. Warney you are one smart guy.

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Posted By: snell77
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

Okay an offies toppie is a delivery which is bowled with the same grip but u turn your wrist to face the seam up to the batsman. The ball will go straight.

Leggies toppie is bowled with the same leg spin grip but ur habd ends up facing at the batsmen wen u finish, ball will go straight.
PRATCISE BOIS!!!!!!

ooooooo nice shane


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 24 December 2005 at 8:45pm
He really is shane warne. He knows all kind of spin stuff.

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Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 25 December 2005 at 12:25am

PLEAZE?!



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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 27 December 2005 at 10:09am

With the flipper you baaically want tou get your thumb and your 2nd finger and flick the ball, release from the front of your hand, and it hould skid on straight. In all seriousness it is a crap ball and doesnt really do anything, but if you can hit it in the right spot like warney can it is dangerous. very hard to bowl!



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 December 2005 at 9:40pm
I know AY! I learned the flipper just by mistake. I was doing the same thing over and over again with the ball and I got good at it, and a few days later I learned that I had learned the flipper.

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Posted By: Rebourne_
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 4:38am
thanks mate

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Posted By: Big Josh
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 2:02pm

How do bowl the googly because i tend to bowl by fluke at times??



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 3:38pm
MiNiWaRnEy, I am a left-handed off-spinner. With my off-spin action I can make it go the other way (into the left-handed). What is that called.

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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 5:35pm
Its called a doorsa


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 7:01pm
Cool. I can do a doosra!

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 8:51am
Yes it is a doosra, probably bowled it by fluke, it takes years to master it without bending your arm. I suppose Murali chucks anyway because he gets away with (shifty bas****)

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 05 January 2006 at 11:43pm
Ok, you have to understand that doing the doosra for me is easier because I am a left handed off-spinner. So my action is the exact samething as a right handed leg-spinner. Do you know what I mean.

For the googly, you have to turn your wrist like you're turning a door knob right? And at the end of your action the back of the hand is suppose to be facing the batsman. But since I am left-handed, my off-spin action is different than the right-handed off-spinners action. My off-spinner action is the same as a right handed leg-spinners action.

My action is like this except I'm left-handed so when I turn it the other way, its a doosra.

I don't think anyone understands what I'm trying to say.



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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:33am
NOPE, you are wrong if you are bowling like a leg spinner then you are a Slow left arm Chinaman Wrist Spinner, you will spin the ball in the same direction as a right arm off spinner, but you are bowling the left armers version of a leg spin, you aree not bowling the doosra, you are bowling the googly.

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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 07 January 2006 at 11:35am
what does the doosra do? meaning how does it move


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 2:41am
OK mate, if you are a right arm off spin bowler like Harbajan Singh you will spin the ball into a right handed batsmen, When the off spinner bowls  the doosra the balls spins in the opposite direction, away from the batsman.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 4:53am
 how many deliveries can a left arm spinner do


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 4:39pm
Stock ball
Doorsa
Arm Ball
Toppie
Bout it really!


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 12:09am
Saqlain has a tessra. Meaning the thord one, not many people really know about it because it is still very new, but I believe it is a delivery which once it hits the pitch the speed goes up or something of that sorts. It will be interesting to see if our man Saqlain Mushtaq gets another go. He is the guy that 1st made the doosra basically, so he has quite a big repetoire of balls, particularly for an offie. He revolutionised off spin, more then MUrali even.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

NOPE, you are wrong if you are bowling like a leg spinner then you are a Slow left arm Chinaman Wrist Spinner, you will spin the ball in the same direction as a right arm off spinner, but you are bowling the left armers version of a leg spin, you aree not bowling the doosra, you are bowling the googly.


Ok! Great! I am a Chinaman wrist spinner!

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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:00pm

Or more succinctly, a left arm unorthodox bowler.

I believe this is what the 'official' term is.



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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 12:22am
Yes Slow Left arm Unorthodx, a less commonly used term for thos style of bowling, it really is a rare art. The only Cihnamen bowlers I can think of from he top of my head are Paul Adams, Michael Beva, George Bradely Hogg. MArk HIggs and Simon Katich.

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Posted By: Black_cap_95
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:15am
can you teach me to bowl left arm chinamens im a left arm orthadox and i bowl those fine but when it come to my rongun or doosra which ever one it is its either a wide or a long hop that doesnt spin much at all and i would also like to know how to bowl the arm ball


Posted By: Mebz
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:36pm
how do you spin it away from a right hander , i'm a leggie but most balls i bowl turn into the batsmen. please help me with the grip and release action


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

Yes Slow Left arm Unorthodx, a less commonly used term for thos style of bowling, it really is a rare art. The only Cihnamen bowlers I can think of from he top of my head are Paul Adams, Michael Beva, George Bradely Hogg. MArk HIggs and Simon Katich.


In 5 years, you can add me to that list.

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Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 2:12am
Hopefully we can and you can come and play for Australia.


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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories!


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:54pm

hi guys i saw this topic through google and i wouldnt mind giving my own tips on offspin, i am a right handed offspinner, i have 5 deliveries, some of my own, if anyone is interested i can give you tips on, the offbreak, the arm ball and the topspinner. If you want to find out about my other two "made up" bowls then prepared to get complicated. If you are willing to listen i will explain. I could also do with help making up two names for my deliveiries as well. I have the utmost respect for you miniwarney as i know how hard it is to develop and practise so many types of spin.

 

Let me know if you want tips

 

youngmurali



Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:55pm
PS> im trying to develop a doosra at the mo, i could do with tips on the release if anyone has it please!


Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:10pm

Well, presumably name wise you'd carry on the trend: doosra, tessra, ......... (I don't know what language it is so can't carry it on, but apparently Saqlain Mushtaq has a tesra, a third variation.)



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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:23pm

i cant find a lanuage translator and there are about 10 different languages over there anywaylol.

one is a fingerspin doosra and the other is a topspin offspinner.



Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:30pm
doosra means 'the other one' but I've no idea what tesra means. Perhaps you can put 'sra' after your initials/first name/last name or something if you want to invent a new name for a delivery!

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:36pm
lol, i think teesra means third one and doosra means other or second. i dont think it would sound too good if the commentator said, oh thats a good andrewsra.


Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:55pm
No, you're right, it's too close to doosra in pronunciation.

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Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:48am
Yes, Doosra means th eother one in Urdu or something liek that and tessra means the third one.

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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories!


Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:51am
Right, so we just need someone to tell us what 'fourth one' and 'fifth one' is and we're away...

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Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:51am
The arm ball is a very simple delivery to bowl, the toppie requires a little practice to gte the control and the dooosra is very hard to bowl without chucking it, hard to control. I am a Right-Arm off Break bowler and I can bowl a few different kinds of offies, the arm ball, the top spinner and I have invented a few.
 
Youngmurali could you plesase tell me about your new variations, I would like to hear them! Thankyou.


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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories!


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:00am
Originally posted by -JP-

Right, so we just need someone to tell us what 'fourth one' and 'fifth one' is and we're away...


fourth one : choutha

fifth one : panchwa


Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:12am
Nice

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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories!


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:20am
Yea, I know Urdu because I am originally from Pakistan but right now I am living in Canada.


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 4:43pm
I have tried to invent a ball, with help from a lad called charlie mackenzie, a slider-leggie. Hes a batsmen who bowls leg spin, and im a leggie. Its where you bowl a slider (back spinner) with the back of your hand facing the batsmen. Its very hard to pick, it speeds up and leggies, as long as you have the seam upright


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 4:45pm

cricketluva: my topspinner is slightly unusual as well as it is released out of the back of the hand with a flick, it works so well when it gets right, you can feel if its right when you release.

my 2 made up deliveries consist of no.1, a back of the hand offbreak, with the batsmen predicting a toppy or doosra, it hasd the same action as the toppy, released out of the back of the hand but also is released from a near side on angle devloping offspin.

I have a fingerspin doosra which i make out as an offbreak as i keep an offspin grip and then as i swing my arm over i move the ball between my thumb and the side of my middle finger, when i release, my thumb goes down and my middle inger goes up creating leg spin. the seam position is VITAL. give it a go

I forgot to tell you about my other ball, which is out of the back of the hand, though the seam position is different meaning it can jump up at the batsmen.

Cricketluva, please tell me about your different deliveries and explain, i would love to have even more deliveries in my armoury thanks

 

 



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 7:00pm
i bowl leg spin and and i can bowl off spin as well but i have trouble bowling the wrong'un richie beneaud says too release the bowl from the back of the hand i do that but it just goes straight or leg break

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:10pm

the idea is to get the seam the opposite way at release with the same leg spin action going in the offspin direction, ie. opposite to leggie.

go to bbc.co.uk, then cricket, then skills and youll get tips there



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:14pm
thanks youngmurali

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:17pm
have you been to bbc? its got loadsa great hints on bowling and batting


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:29pm
what does bbc stand for

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:31pm

oh god your from australia............

 

 

hold on..............................



Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:34pm

The leg spinner's prize weapon - bowled properly, a googly is almost undetectable.

A googly, or "wrong'un", is a delivery which looks like a normal leg spinner but actually turns towards the batsmen, like an off break, rather than away from the bat.

Unlike a normal leg break, a googly is delivered out of the back of the hand, with the wrist 180 degrees to the ground.

STEP ONE

Hold the ball as if you're about to bowl a normal leg break.

The top joints of the index and middle fingers should be across the seam, with the ball resting between a bent third finger and the thumb.

STEP TWO

At the point of release, the palm of your hand should be open upwards, towards the sky, with the back of your hand facing the batsman.

Your wrist should be 180 degrees to the ground, while the seam of the ball should point towards fine leg.

Again, it should be your third finger which does most of the work, turning the ball anti-clockwise on release.

You'll probably find it goes horribly wrong the first few times you give the googly a try, but don't give up.

As the old saying goes, practice makes perfect. Use a tennis ball to help improve the flexibility of your wrist.




Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:46pm
thanx for that

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:48pm
its ok, ask for any tips on the flipper and toppy etc and you can have it


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 11:14pm
Wow! You're one talented bowler. Can you do the googly?


Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 1:03am
The googly is with the same grip as an leggie, but you turn your wrist in an anti clockwise fashion and your hand will end up facing teh batsmen, the ball will turn from off to leg, not hard to bowl, if you have a quickish action it is extremly hard to pick. Beau Casson is like that and he bowler Mark Waugh with a wrong-un', Mark couldn't pick it evebn though he is a wonderful player of spin.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 2:22am
I can do the googly and I learnt it by myself too...after reading some books and stuff. But thanks for tips anyway.

I am a slow left-arm chinaman wrist spinner.

A rare breed.


Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 2:24am
Yes like mentioned earlier, there have not been many chianmen bowlers outside Aust, besides Paul Admas surprisingly.

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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 4:13pm
There a lad in my team who was a left arm seamer but ti wasnt working out - hes swithed to chinaman and things are looking good for him


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 5:37pm

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Wow! You're one talented bowler. Can you do the googly?

 

if that was directed at me then yes i can. i enjoy spinning and even though i am an offspinner i am very close to changing to a leggie in the near future. im not sure. i find the normal legspin ball harder to bowl than the offbreak. we will see. but if anyone wants any tips id be more than happy to helep



Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 5:47pm

done some reasearch on the doosra:

In Hindi and Urdu, doosra means "second" or "other".

Put simply, the it is the off-spinner's version of the googly.

Over the past five years, the world's top off spinners have developed the doosra to baffle batsmen.

It looks very similar to a normal off-break, but rather than spin towards the bat, it goes the other way like a leg break.

The doosra is bowled from the back of the hand with a lot of top spin, but the wrist still moves in a clockwise direction.

It is a very difficult skill to master so you'll need plenty of practice if you want to learn how to do it.

However, its validity has been called into question because of the number of off-spinners who have been reported to the International Cricket Council for suspect actions bowling the doosra.

Sri Lanka's Muttiah Muralitharan, India's Harbhajan Singh and Pakistan's Shoaib Malik have all had to have their actions cleared by the ICC's Human Movement Specialist panel.

Sceptics claim the doosra cannot be bowled with a legitimate bowling action because it is physically impossible to do with a straight arm.

just to let you know, i have done research on murali, he is an abnormal human. He has a double jointed wrist ( i have that) which is fairly uncommon but also has an extremely rare double jointed elbow(i dont have that!) and therefore is unable to fully straighten his arm even if he tries. He can get very close but is still unable.

EDIT:

results

Depending on the direction of viewing, his arm may be seen as straight or bent.



Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 7:14pm
He shouldnt be able to bowl - its unfair on everyone else. Im a leggie, i can bowl:
Leggie
Googly
Slider
Flipper
Leggie/Slider(skids and turns - Unplayable if you cant pick it)


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 8:16pm

hey, if you were told that you couldnt bowl at all just because you are irregular wuld you say OK? i wouldnt. murali is my favourite bowler and i would never like to see him get thrown out of cricket.

your leggie slider is like my toppy offy but the other way, could you tell me how you do it so that i ould attempt to turn it into a doosra, thanks.



Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 10:35pm
I have the back of my hand facing the batsmen and i put back spin in it. Its a flipper but ith the ball of the other side of the hand. Its skids more and turns more then your standard flipper. Need aolt of practice though


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 11:17pm
WOW! You guys are talented. I am not a spinner but I do spin occasionaly...once a year...other than that I practice spin more than fast bowling, but I am a fast bowler.


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 4:24pm
Why, do what your good at more. Btw, i would reccomend you doing tour yorker once and over or every other over, it gives more i a suprise element!


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:03pm
ok, im giving legpin a real go, could any legspinner out there tell me how to bowl the flipper precisely, and the backspinner(slider) and also give me tips on how to get a better googly please.


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:07pm
Googly you need to know the action and then its all about practice. Advanced stuff, relese it a fraction earlier as it comes out of the back of the hand giving it a higher jajectory (i dont know how to spell it) With the slider have a leg spinners grip but put back spin on it. Its an offies topspinners grip but with the back spin. Master these and then you can try the flipper, but dont even thing about it untill you can do these well.


Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:10pm

i got the googly release ok but what do you do with your wrist/fingers when you bowl the backspinner/slider.

i have a pretty big leg break at the mo and my toppy is awesome (not boasting lol).

PS. thanks warne in making



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:11pm

flipper

the fingers are brought forward and the thumb plays a part.the ball squeezes out between finger and thumb.the underspin makes it slice through the air and ski at the bastmen

by the way i did not write this myself i read this out of a book



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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:15pm
im kind of like a all round bowler when i bowl pace i bowl flintoff style and i do alot of bouncers with them and trouble the batsmen and i can bowl off-spin and leg spin people at my school cant believe how much spin i put on it

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:16pm
lol, thanks, that must be really hard to squueze out, you must have to have the ball quite loose. anil, could you tell me about your slider and googly?


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:19pm
i have a bit of trouble with my googly and slider but my flipper,leg break and wrong'un are fine

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:23pm

wrong'un is the same as a googly i think you mean toppie

anil, would you like me to get something off bbc for the legbreak balls if i can?



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:27pm
go ahead

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Posted By: youngmurali
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 8:32pm
sorry, just looked, there are 2 great videos but i cant get them on here, there is a page on the flipper, a page on the googly and a page on the toppie but thats it


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 12:51am
Why can't you get them on here?


Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 6:48pm

hey guys, im a legspinner too. I am of a very good standard and play for a junior county team. I have 6 deliveries- the 5 usuals and then one of my own. COuld you guys give me help with the slider, i cant get the wrist and finger action right at release. what is the professional, proper way?

warnester



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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 6:56pm
Your hold it like an offies toppie but put back spin on it. It makes it look like a leg break but it skids on with the backspin


Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 7:01pm

so its like a legbreak gone wierd. you reverse your wrist i know that, but then do you use your fingers to put the back spin on it?

also, i can do the flipper quite well but could you tell me were the seam should be on release and my fingers please?



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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 8:17pm

practising the slider it ended up being like a flipper, but mind you, i was practising with a tennis ball so it hasnt got a seam

got all 5 deliveries pretty uch sussed now



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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 9:05pm
Right, i slider is a flipper with the ball on the other side of your wrist. They are nearly the same


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 20 January 2006 at 11:46pm
WOW!!!


You guys are all going to be Shane Warnes when you grow up...you guys are so talented.


Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 21 January 2006 at 9:34am
Thanks. When is your next nets Saad? Try not bowling yorkers all the time! Try hitting a good length and see how much more trouble he is in!



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