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Arguably the best spinner in the world

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Topic: Arguably the best spinner in the world
Posted By: ragh
Subject: Arguably the best spinner in the world
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 10:14am
Select the Best



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Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 10:35am

Warney is the best of all time



Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 1:05pm
how can you compare any1 to warney... he has taken a world record 92 wickets this calender year with still 1 innings to go... Absolutely no doubt about it. Shane Warne is easily the worlds best spinner


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 3:09pm
Yup! Warne is miles better than any other spinner in the history of cricket. Even Murali can't be compared to Shane Warne.

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Posted By: SANTECH
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 12:24pm

You all can say anything..

for me Anil is the best..



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 2:13pm
That is your opinion, but the fact is that Shane Warne is the best spinner in the history of cricket.

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Posted By: GingerPrince
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 2:16pm
Definatley warne

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 2:25pm

kumbers to me hes my cricket hero never ever does he stop trying hes had injury problems in the past he is one of two bowlers to take 10 wickets in a match 10/74 has warne done that didn't think so plus muralli is 3 years younger than warne and only 70-80 wickets behind he takes 70 wickets every calender year  so its gonna be singh,kumble,muralli,warne

plus no one knows if there was a better spinner back in the 18th century



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 2:48pm
You're right. Kumble is one of only 2 bowlers to have taken 10 wickets in an inning and that is impressive but that was just a coincidence. It was just his day. If he could take 10 wickets in an inning lets say every year, then I would believe that he is capable of doing it.

Murali takes a lot of wickets yearly because he chucks, and he plays a lot against the weaker teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

Warne takes lower order wickets not because he can't take the top order's wickets but because McGrath and Lee are given that job first. Warne has to compete with McGrath and Lee to take wickets and does take wickets. So Warne is the best spinner.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 2:53pm
why do spinners never open the bowling i've never seen a spinner open the bowling

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 3:09pm
I guess because they believe that fast bowlers can get crucial break throughs early in the inning.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 3:21pm
i reckon singh and kumble should open the attack against pakistan seeing they make a great combination

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 3:22pm
No, the spinners aren't suppose to open the bowling and I am sure that they won't. The fast bowlers always open the bowling.

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Posted By: Warne in making
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 6:08pm
I guess there are alot of indians on this forum - votin for kumble and singh!!!!!!!!!11 WARNE IS THE BEST


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 December 2005 at 6:47pm
Well, the guy who made this poll shouldn't have made it multiple voting. This way one person can vote for who ever he/she wants a million times. This gives the poll a biased result.

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Posted By: SANTECH
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 9:25am
Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Warne takes lower order wickets not because he can't take the top order's wickets but because McGrath and Lee are given that job first. Warne has to compete with McGrath and Lee to take wickets and does take wickets. So Warne is the best spinner.
Thats what i also want to say buddy..Warnie being in the Australion Team always gets that advantage of domination.Big batsman will be out most of the time and
Opposing team wil be in very nervous state of loosing the game.Huge target..tension etc. no doubt warnie is No.1 by statistics.. but had some favorable conditions.also i dont want to demean warne's capabilities.He is a great player indeed.But legie Kumble should get some better apreciation.I hope some people here dont like that statement saying warnie is FAAAR better than kumble.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 9:59am

eho was the idiot that iver voted for vettori.

Warne is the best by 100000000000000000000 country miles.

The best leggie and the best allround spinner in the world.

Accuracy, Spin, Drift, Flight, Variation he has everything u would dream of, plus he does all of those things nearly perfect.

Kumble is barely a spinner, he basically bowls Medium Fast leg cutters. No drift, poor variation and bad flight, at least compared to Warne. Vettori and Kaneria are better then Kumble.

Kumble makes a mockery of spin bowling by the way he bowls, Bill O'reilly will be rolling in his grave, as is Jim Laker over the way Murali bowls.

Kumble got 10 wickets in the innings against Pakistan because nobody else was CAPABLE of getting a Pakistani wicket besides him at that stage. Warne is far more superior, not just by his record but by the actual way he bowls. Ask anybody, infact ask Richie Benaud.



Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 12:22pm
Warne is the best, no doubt, followed by Murlitharan. Voting of vettori is really ridiculou*s.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 12:29pm
you really **** me off miniwarney sorry for the bad language

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 12:30pm
Get over it. Anil is nothing compared to Warne and u kno it, i kno it and the rest of the world knos it.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 12:34pm
warne gets tired after 10 overs while kumble can bowl 50 overs without getting tired hes series aginst sri lanka proved that

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 8:55pm
Ok, so how does that determine a great bowler.

The fact is that Warne is miles ahead of Kumble.

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Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 8:00am
Vettori doesnt actually put any spin on it from what i heard from my 17 year old cousin. he said that he just changes the loop and the pace and other things so that the batsmen hits differently and the batsmen will be caught. and that is why it is rare to see B: Vettori


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 1:24pm
I am sure Vettori spins the ball...that's why he is called a spinner.

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Posted By: Big Josh
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 2:08pm
No need to even ask that question its obviously Warne

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 2:37pm
Ofcourse, Warne is the single best spinner in the history of cricket.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 9:12am

Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

warne gets tired after 10 overs while kumble can bowl 50 overs without getting tired hes series aginst sri lanka proved that

 

Are you an idiot he can bowl bloody 90 overs a game. He has great stamina. U r so stupid. Anil is crap compared to warne, stop lying to yourself.



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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 04 January 2006 at 8:31pm
Please stop insulting people. Why do you have such a big problem with Asians?

No doubt Anil is nothing compared to Shane Warne, but you don't have to insult people to prove your point.

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Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 9:23pm
for me i find murli the most dangerous.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 1:06am
Murali is a chucker.

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Posted By: qasi
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 2:17am
I think both are the best.although everyone prefer warney but i prefer Murali because if warney did't perform at that time they have enough bowling line up to get wickets.but if murali does't perform then its very difficult for srilankan to get wickets.Infact its murali who enable his team to get victories at test level but if warney does not play aussies still win.Since 1997 i think 70 % of srilankan's victories are because of murali and warney's share since1994 for aussies is 45% in victories.What you say


Posted By: capital_s
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 6:45am
Warney is a show boy. Everyone quietly forgets that although warne has
the most wickets, murali has a better bowling average in ODIs and tests.
Murali will be the best of all time, he has more years left in his career and
will probably catch warnes wicket count.

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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 7:52am
He doesnt have a lesser average because he has to compete to get his wickets with McGrath, Lee, Gillespie, McDermott, Fleming and HUghes throughout his whole career.

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Posted By: 2COOL
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 8:15am
capitals is right...


Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 8:19am
in what way mate

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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 9:52am
Well Miniwarney is right in that McGrath,Lee and company take a lot of wickets between them. Both Lee and McGrath have better strike rates than Warne.

On the other hand the only real competitor Murali has with he strike rate issue is Vaas. Murali thus have an oppertunity to take more wickets.


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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 08 January 2006 at 10:29am
Yes he does, you arer very much right vize and i agree woth ypu. The fact is, no one else barring Vaas ever looks like getting poles, so when SL needs wickets Murali bowls all day until all wickets fall. Warne does this far less and has less opportunities to get wickets and usually has less wickets to get.

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 09 January 2006 at 2:24am
This argument is useless. I use to have the same argument months ago with Sledger and others. I use to think Murali was better than Warne, but my cricket logic has enhanced a bit and I've figured that Warne is much better than Murali.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 March 2006 at 10:48am
murali of course 


Posted By: TANZ
Date Posted: 01 March 2006 at 10:50am
from what i have seen warne spins the greatest distance

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Posted By: ramzi
Date Posted: 01 March 2006 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Murali is a chucker.

Who made u the ICC? 

 


Posted By: ramzi
Date Posted: 01 March 2006 at 4:08pm

Murali  plays a lot against the weaker teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

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Do you think murali goes crying around that he wants to bowl against the weaker teams?

Its the ICC who sets the time table for teams.

And ZImbabwe weren't a weaker team.They had the Flower brothers,Murray Goodwin,Guy Wittal,Cambell.They're wer good players who value thier wicket,specially Andy Flower.

He was one of the few batsmen who hit murali really hard.Others would be Lara,Thorpe,Fleming



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 3:56am

hey there is nothing wrong with murali's action leave him alone saadad

in my opinion murali is the best

whether u like it or not



Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 3:57am
to be honest warne hasnt been in such great form of late maybe his age is getting to him


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 4:02am

who cares who is around u

and miniwarney i think it is an advantage having mcgrath and lee the soften up the batsmen and then warne can come and wickets that is the advantage

while murali has only vaas murali is the best

who cares who is around u it depends on u and ur ability to take wickets

miniwarney shshhshshhshshshshshshshshshs



Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 10:08am

I think I had proven it once before that Murali is arguably the best ever spin bowler, on averages and the number of wickets taken, infact he is the only one in cricket's history to take 1000 wickets, That speaks a lot about the wicket taking ability of the guy.

 Warne is a great bowler, best ever leg spinner, charasmatic, more competitive, got more wickets against quality sides, never been accused of chucking(but banned for using diuretics in a world cup), but unfortunately he will not be considered the greatest!



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 9:01am
i agree with wizeguy


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 9:47am
You cannot compare Murali and Warne. They bowl two different styles. Warne is a better Leg Spinner. Murali is a better Off Spinner. Don't compare them.


Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 10:05am
hmmmm......
How comes I'm not in that list???


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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 11:21am

Originally posted by pakistani_pride

murali of course 

You are only saying Murali becuase you hate Australia, you never say enythng good about Aussie players..you are somewhat a racist and your opinion is so bias it is not pathetic and useless.



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Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 11:22am

That'll do, thanks.



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