Beamer and No apology ?
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Topic: Beamer and No apology ?
Posted By: krisdy
Subject: Beamer and No apology ?
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 8:20am
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second test 4th day
Shoaib after being smacked black and blue by Dhoni's fireworks , bowls a dangerous Beamer to him ,,, that could have hurt ,,, good god ,, dhoni wasn't hurt by that ball.
Shoaib did'nt even bother an apology to Dhoni .
When dhoni was asked about the episode in press conference he told something like this
"well it would have been an accidental slip from shoaibs hand ,, no one wants to hurt the player on the feild and it was not intentional "
when asked "Did shoaib talk to your regarding this ,, or asked an apology"
Dhoni said with a smile "No"
Well I feel shoaib should learn something from dhoni ,, about how to be a gentleman.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 8:58am
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I had seen wasim akram ,lee etc ,, who were aggressive ,, still on putting a beamer ,, they always used to apologise
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 9:27am
Well, don't go that hard on Shoaib. I have seen him apologising, after throwing a beamer (of course un intentionally). He has never been unfair in this regard.
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 9:44am
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Apologising doesn't make it alright anyway
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:06am
But what else u could do after it is done unintentionally. I dont think there is something better than an apology. Or u could pay the hospital bill if the batsman is hurt.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:07am
Yeah, of course u can try to avoid any such instances in future, but still u can not be perfect. Can u?
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Posted By: Canadian Rocket
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:21am
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Firstly, Krsdy your always against Pakistani players (dunno why?)
Secondly, I've seen Akhtar apologize millions of times for the slightest mistakes with a delivery, but this time the heat was on him and Pakistan was losing their strong position they had achived!
Thirdly, He's a fast bowler, the ball might have been wet and slipped out, give the lad , a break!
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:34am
There are a million of odd things that are not supposed to happen in normal course. But odds happen, thats what a surprise is all about.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:37am
I would suggest to JP to amend Krisdy's status as "Ultra Teaser" rather than "Ultra Poster" . Does it sound good enough? Well Krisdy i like u, at least it gives some variety to the forums.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:39am
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Originally posted by shan
I would suggest to JP to amend Krisdy's status as "Ultra Teaser" rather than "Ultra Poster" . Does it sound good enough? Well Krisdy i like u, at least it gives some variety to the forums. |
y-uh r spot on ,,, but I do like to heat up some things in these forum instead of being goddie goddie 
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:39am
And thats why i am adding too much to your forum, though some people might think that i am doing this just to increase my posts. Thats out of question. I do not wanna increase my post so much, after doing 200.
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 1:15am
Anyway...
Shoaib wouldn't apologize to an Indian. That's why he didn't apologize after delivering a beamer.
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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 5:51pm
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didnt he apologize? . if he didnot then that is the stupidest thing he has done in his entire carrier.
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Posted By: vize
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 8:49pm
Yeah, he did not apologise, I saw it. May be he did not know it was a beamer. Still, he really should have apologised
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Posted By: swerveman
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:07pm
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Originally posted by vize
May be he did not know it was a beamer. |

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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 4:37am
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Simply a wave of hand can also be taken as apology. It does not necessarily mean that the bowler should bow before the batsman and beg his pardon.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 4:40am
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Originally posted by saadadvanced7
Anyway...
Shoaib wouldn't apologize to an Indian. That's why he didn't apologize after delivering a beamer. |
then Dhoni will make him pay for that in third test match ,,,probably today
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 7:50am
Dhoni parished too early to do anything for India. Its a supporting wicket, not a batting paradise, u know. So Dhoni could not do much about it.................alas.
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:00am
Dhoni is not a quality player, he is a crap keeper with many flaws and can only bat well when the ground is small and the pitch is flat and even and easy to bat on.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:00am
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As they say, "when i was born i was so surprised that i did not talk for one and a half year".
This world is so much full of wonders. Say for example they some people call Dhoni a great wicket keeper batsman, at par with Gilli.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:06am
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Welcome back MinieWarney, nice to see u back to add some spices to the forum.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:24am
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One failure dosent take anything away from Dhoni ..... I am surprised at people from other countries trying to label Dhoni as crap batsman just after one innings failure.
All I have to say to them is wait and watch him grow taller then anyone .........remember 183 hightest by wicketkeeper , 148 ,,, and just Second test match 143 under tremendous pressure are signs of a true quality player ...
Moreover mini ,, you told "he can hit in only small grounds" ,,,, sorry did you see his 4 sixes in second test match ,,,, and esp six of Kaneria ,,, that was the hughest six ever hit ,,,, it went out of the stadium and some 50 yards after the stadium and fell in a ditch and it was completely wet.
He plays with straingt bat and has awsome power .... when he gets going ,,no one can stop ,,,,in fact when he plays normally his strike rate will be more than 100 .... just imagine the day he would loose his mind ,,,, I just hope that he dosent pick aussies on his day.
I bet mini one day when he will play aussies ......will make your doubt clear.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:27am
Originally posted by shan
As they say, "when i was born i was so surprised that i did not talk for one and a half year".
This world is so much full of wonders. Say for example they some people call Dhoni a great wicket keeper batsman, at par with Gilli.
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Dhoni has idolised Gilli for so long ,,,, even gilchrist would be proud if dhoni attains Gilchrist's stds
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:35am
Originally posted by krisdy
One failure dosent take anything away from Dhoni ..... I am surprised at people from other countries trying to label Dhoni as crap batsman just after one innings failure.
All I have to say to them is wait and watch him grow taller then anyone .........remember 183 hightest by wicketkeeper , 148 ,,, and just Second test match 143 under tremendous pressure are signs of a true quality player ...
Moreover mini ,, you told "he can hit in only small grounds" ,,,, sorry did you see his 4 sixes in second test match ,,,, and esp six of Kaneria ,,, that was the hughest six ever hit ,,,, it went out of the stadium and some 50 yards after the stadium and fell in a ditch and it was completely wet.
He plays with straingt bat and has awsome power .... when he gets going ,,no one can stop ,,,,in fact when he plays normally his strike rate will be more than 100 .... just imagine the day he would loose his mind ,,,, I just hope that he dosent pick aussies on his day.
I bet mini one day when he will play aussies ......will make your doubt clear.
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Yes but his team needed him and he failed, disgraceful, he cannot even put his head down and concentrate and hang aroung.
Thanks for the comments Shan.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:37am
do u expect circketers to deliver everytime ?
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:41am
Yes, don't you, kidding, I am just saying that he is being used as a batsmen-keeper, when he should be used as a keeper-batsmen, he is not good enough to keep, that seperated him from Gilly and Akmal who are both tidy keepers to pacemen and spinners, plus Gilly is one of the best all time batsmen and Akmal is a very good young performer.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:43am
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I dont object your views,,, but what i say is Bhajji and Kumble are difficult to keep wickets to .Even Mongia ,karim and MSK got hit by kumble due to ackward bounce.
regarding the stumping miss ,, that was uneven bounce .
But wht u say about patan's regualtion catch drop by akmal in second test?
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:44am
dhoni's even one miss is exaggerated while Akmal blooper went unnoticed
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:45am
He more then makes up for it, but yes it was a regulation catch. I would still at present choose Akmal over Dhoni in a Asian XI team though (sangakkara best asian, gilly best in world).
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:47am
ok mini enjoy it till it lasts ,,, coz shortly u will see who will be worlds most respected wicketkeeper
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Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:50am
Sure, that could be true...I did not say it would not be true mate. But Dhoni needs to contribute, he is not contributing anymore then say Dravid did with gloves and his batting then needs to be as good as a specialist front line batsmen..that is what I am saying. He does not crack it when donning the gloves.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 8:51am
okie.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:59am
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Come on Krisdy. Dhoni needs to concentrate much more on his keeping, thats what every team expects from a wicket keeper. Batting must be on second place. I would prefer a first class wc with second class batting, but would never go for second class WC with A++ batsman.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:00pm
And if u need a batsman wicket keeper, Dravid is at par in keeping standard with Dhoni. Isn't he?
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:00pm
um hmmmm ,,,, well he just missed one chance during entire series ,,, while akmal did blunder in First test and second test also ,, so what do u say about that
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:02pm
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Originally posted by shan
And if u need a batsman wicket keeper, Dravid is at par in keeping standard with Dhoni. Isn't he? |
no way ,,,Dhoni is a good keeper ,, he has improved a lot
anyways what do u say ,,, Pakistan are at advantage now ?
156 runs ahead and still 8 wickets in hand ?
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:03pm
I feel that pakistan are taking the game away from India
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:09pm
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Yeah i think so. But lets see what goes on. At least there would be a result.
I think what happened to our legendary batsmen (both the teams), they were used to easy going wickets with a lot of tons under their belt and were stunned to see this sort of wicket at Karachi. Now this is the real test. Pakistanis openers have done a good job. If middle orders clicks, Pakistan for sure is the favourite coz its not easy to bat in fourth innings.
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Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:22pm
ya it a test of character for indian to chase a 450+ target
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:35pm
Krisday does'nt the 450 figure seems a bit exaggerated? I think 350 would be good enough total, given the condition of the wicket, which has been quite helpful to the bowlers.
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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:54pm
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may be that is right shan
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
Dhoni is not a quality player, he is a crap keeper with many flaws and can only bat well when the ground is small and the pitch is flat and even and easy to bat on. |
I completely agree with you MiNiWaRnEy...and welcome back.
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by shan
Krisday does'nt the 450 figure seems a bit exaggerated? I think 350 would be good enough total, given the condition of the wicket, which has been quite helpful to the bowlers. |
Well, now the target has gone past 500.
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Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 12:29pm
But see India could not get near 300. Pakistan has the great bowling attack with Asif as a great discovery. And congrats mate, Pakistan has won the match. What about Krisdy saying India willl swap the series at least 2 to Nil, and it could be even 3 to Nil, a complete white wash. Better luck Krisdy for ODIs.
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