Best Batting-Wicketkeeper
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Topic: Best Batting-Wicketkeeper
Posted By: krisdy
Subject: Best Batting-Wicketkeeper
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 8:49am
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Dhoni's performance in second test against pakistan ,,, has reinforced the fact that ,,,he is the future best Batting-wicketkeeper...that too when shoaib was breathing fire and India was in such a pressure. Single handedly he brought India to safety and that with a style. Folks beleive me !!! you all will see Dhoni being much more usefull then What Gilchrist is to Australia. For the moment ,, if Dhoni continues like this ,, then even Gilchrist or Sangakkara can't match him in batting. The awsome flat six of Shoaib and the hughest six of Kaneria was treat to watch ....oh-my-god that was really huge six. ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 8:57am
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Yeah he may well be in the future - have to do it a bit more regularly
before he can be compared to what Gilchrist used to be like. At the moment the best wicketkeeper-batsman is Akmal anyway. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 11:00am
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currently there equal akmal and dhoni ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 11:46am
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I dont think Akmal can be compared to Dhoni on any counts considering the batting abilities ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 11:47am
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Dhoni's batting abilites are much much more superiour than AKmal's ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 1:04pm
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fair enough ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 7:13pm
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Dhoni needs to prove himself outside the subcontinent.
But I have to admit, he's in great form with the bat and looks like he's going to be a fine all-rounder (keeper-batsman). ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 4:49am
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he will get to prove himself outside the sub-continent when they go to jamacia and play west indies and dont start saying that hes obviously going to make big scores because west indies are a crap team because india struggle in the west indies ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 11:00pm
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I'm not going to say anything about how he will perform in West Indies...I don't get to choose that...God does.
Anyway, we will see just how well he performs against a poor West Indies team. I will expect him to perform well against West Indies...they are a weak side. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 12:49am
| dhoni is a really good batsmen and in the west indies he will most likely also do good because his getting better every match |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:30am
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We will see! ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:52am
| yes we will |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:13am
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Dhoni still can't be called the best keeper-batsman even if he performs well in West Indies...because he needs to improve his keeping. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 1:50am
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hes the best batsmen out of the keepers with akmal while sangakkara and gilly are the best keepers ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:43am
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I agree. Again putting a ton on board in first innings of third test, when Pakistan was in deep deep trouble. What a knot to bring the team out of misery. He is putting tons after tons with far better quality shots than Dhoni. I think he has greater talent with a great variety of quality shots and consistancy. ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:45am
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And when we talk about wicket keeping, Dhoni is far far away in quality from Akmal. Sometimes he feel like crap while keeping. See he missed a huge stumping chance on first day of third test. In batting he is pretty handy and shows great fire works, although he lacks quality cricket shots. ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:45am
Cut the crap he was plumb on 49 or 59 .... I agree he is a decent good player ,,, but he dosent come anywhere near dhoni in shot making ,,, not even till knee height of dhoni and when comapered to Gilchrist ,,, not even toe height .. ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:47am
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how awfull was Akmals regualtion catch drop of Pathan ,,, chee chee but Regarding dhoni ,, his keeping is good ,, but its very difficult to keep to the like of Bhajji and Kumble coz of their ackward bounce and pace variations
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:48am
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krisdy is 100% right on that you should cut the crap ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:21pm
Excuses! You know very well that Akmal is miles ahead of Dhoni in keeping. Akmal is an outstanding keeper. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:23pm
I stayed up all night to watch Day 1 of the third test and there was no time when Akmal was plumb out. Dhoni, that lazy no good keeper, missed an easy stumping when Akmal was on 80. What a fine display of keeping by Dhoni. The ball was coming straight into his hands and he dropped it and missed an easy, easy, stumping.  ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:11pm
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doenot everyone makes mistalke saad?? i think it is not right to critisize a player in that fashion. ------------- eat cricket,sleep cricket, dream cricket,play cricket,.,,,,,,,,,,, |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:38am
| akmal and dhoni are very good but this was about best wicket keeper batsmen in which i think they both are equal akmal has made his share of mistakes and amazing 100s and so has dhoni soo i dont think u can compare them |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:42am
Ok, you're right, everyone does make mistakes, but is it not true that Akmal is a much, and I mean a MUCH better keeper than Dhoni? That's a fact and no one can argue that. Akmal's batting technique is also better than Dhoni's and that leads me to conclude that Akmal is a better keeper-batsman than Dhoni. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:45am
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I think we need to wait and see how they both perform outside of the subcontinent. From a neutral point of view, right now I'd have Akmal in my team as he seems to be a safer pair of hands and a more reliable bat. That's not to say Dhoni is useless, but he seems to me to hit one big innings then have a quiet game or two but Akmal is developing into a keeper who'd nearly make the team as a batsman. ------------- |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:49am
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Yea, his batting has been outstanding in the past 12 months. He has 7 International centuries in the past 12 months. And in his last 4 matches, he has hit 3 centuries. In this form, he would certainly make the team as a batsman. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:49am
| who has been keeping for their team for longer time? |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:16am
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Well, I have checked on cricinfo. And the results are that Akmal has been playing for just above 3 years (in both forms of the game) and Dhoni has been in ODIs for just above a year and in tests for only a month. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 3:25am
| ooo i see |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 3:54am
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thats what I am saying guys ,,, Akmal has been keeping for almost 3 years ,, and just now he is comming in limelight Thats not the case with Dhoni ,, coz right from the word go ,,, he has become a batting sensation ,,,,so his every blooper in wicketkeeping or every failure in batting is criticised as ,,,,, his time is gone. Come on guys ,,, the lad has just come ,,,one year in ODI's and hardly 2nd month in Tests ,,, and already he has made such a huge impact and is being debated so so hot in these forums. That is something to look out for. Okie to all those who are at AWE with Indian revelation DHONI Point 1: Every keeper improves after comming to International areana , coz they get more responsibility and face quality bowlers Point 2: Technique of Dhoni is much much better ,, there is no problem with is technique ,,, Akmal is a technically sound player with limited abilites in batting, but he makes good use of it ,,,, but Dhoni is a gifted player like gilchrist Tell me who can whack Shoaib's bouncer for a flat six like he did at the second test hey saad ,, listen to what Geffory boycott told about Dhoni "the young lad plays with straight bat and has got lot of talent and temperment" Geffory went on further to say that if he can play the same way in English/NZ/Aust pitches then he rates him better than Gilchrist. ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:27am
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What are you talking about Krisdey. Akmal has limited cricket shots?????? Well watch him closely mate, he has exhibited great variety of so many good cricketing shots with perfection of a batsman. He is not a pinch hitter like Dhoni or Afridi. His keeping norms are also much higher than Dhoni. Dhoni no doubt is a great future prospect with a lot of talent, but yet he has to improve a lot specially his keeping behind the wicket. Because Wicket Keeper_Batsman is always preffered over Batsman-Wicketkeeper. And also Dhoni needs to have a good hair cut or he has his power in his long hair like Samson ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:30am
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And i did not say Dhoni is a crap, but i said sometimes he feels like it behind the stumps. Of course he is not a regular crap in the sense of this word. He is really a good discovery for India and spectators all around the world. ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:34am
Yup Dhoni has a superstition that the power and success lies in his long locks [I mean long hairs]. a nice truth ,, for one endorsemetn ,, they wanted him to cut his hair ,, but he denied it ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 5:25pm
Let me stir things up a bit. 
First of all, Kamran Akmal is a better keeper-batsman than MS Dhoni. Keeping: Its obvious that Akmal's keeping is much, and I mean MUCH better than Dhoni's. Batting: Dhoni is a pinch-hitter. Akmal is a proper batsman. He's got the shots and he plays them perfectly. The longer he stays at the crease, the more elegant his batting is to watch. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 10:37pm
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that is right saad. dhoni was brought as a pinch hitter against pakistan . he was brought to asked to play in number three postion to increase their run rate. at that very moment he happened to score a century and after that he has really been in good shape. even though akmal was quite a bit shaky when he started his carrer, he has developed himself as a nice batsmen playing good cricketing shots. ------------- eat cricket,sleep cricket, dream cricket,play cricket,.,,,,,,,,,,, |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 12:20am
| lets see how dhoni performs on aus and eng pitches if he does better on them or the same as he does in the sub continent then he he is an amazing keeper- batsmen |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 1:55am
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No, no, no. I still wouldn't call him an amazing keeper-batsman because his keeping is no good. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 3:53am
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sorry saad ,,,, your akmal is no good to fear anyone ,,,, he will always be someone like good player ,i mean good batsman ,, but can never match anything of Dhoni's batting abilities. Ask Dhoni and Akmal to open the innings ,,,, By the time dhoni hit century ,, akmal would be in just 30's or 40's. There is a huge difference ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 3:54am
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He will always be dependable ,, but nothing exiting like Dhoni ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: Black_cap_95
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 9:02am
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akmal is definatley the better keeper batsman at this time but ill be keen to see bredan mcullum in the up coming test series vs w.i ------------- go hard or go home |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 9:05am
I admit ,,, Akmal is better than Dhoni  ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 1:53pm
About time Krisdy!  ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 4:59pm
| too bad akmal didnt get to play in the last innings |
Posted By: Inzy
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 5:11pm
| When Gilchrist hangs his gloves up could Akmal turn out to being the best in the world- keeper-batsman i mean? Got competition from McCullum. Sangakarra who is class and Boucher! |
Posted By: inzamam329
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 8:02pm
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put it this ways...Akmal's HUndred in the last test when pak were 39/6..was the best ive seen by a pak batsman..whenever pakistan are in trouble akmal has come to the rescue..Dhoni is a bashar like afridi..akmal is a genuine technically sound player with unbelievale talents! ------------- |
Posted By: Pakman
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 9:32pm
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what? what? krisdy, I cant believe what im reading here! Dhoni better than Akmal? Dhoni has more shots than Akmal? Dhoni can keep better than Akmal? .......... Oh wait, just browsed up for a sentence reference and i just read that post where you say you admit Akmal is better. lol. sorry, i was really about to give you a piece of my mind ------------- Some great cricketing quotes: "It's tough for a natural hooker to give it up." - Ian Chappell "On the outfield, hundreds of small boys are playing with their balls." - Rex Alston, BBC |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 9:58pm
| Akmal is a match saver for pakistan |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 1:03am
Krisdy is being attacked from all ends. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 1:47am
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akmal should have played in the last innings he probably could have got another 50
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Posted By: prayas
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 4:04am
anyway he was man of the match due to his brilliant performance in first inning. ------------- eat cricket,sleep cricket, dream cricket,play cricket,.,,,,,,,,,,, |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 4:12am
well I still beleive Dhoni is capable ,,,, but he did not deliver in the Third test match ,,,, like he did wonderfully in the Second test match. Moreover for the moment atleast It was Kamran's innings which changed the fortune for pakistan ; and Pakistan could win the series after a GAP of 19 years against India ,,, So due credit has to go to Akmal.
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 5:46am
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Yup!
Wasim and Waqar intimidated Sachin when he was a chubby 16 year old kid, but in the '03 WC, he smashed them all over the ground. ------------- Regulation without integration leads to suicide. |
Posted By: praveen samaras
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 5:42pm
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You all were talking about Gily,Dhoni & Akmal.But I think Sangakkara is the best because of few reasons. 1.He has the more responsibility because he is playing @ NO.03 Position & that is the most valuble position in the batting. 2.He has played more matchs than Akmal & Dhoni with averaging very close and above them.(we don't know thees two averages how after this type of matchs). 3.He is above the Dhoni & Akmal and close to Gily with His Wicket Keeping. 4.Also he hasn't had greater patners Gily or Dhoni had in there batting likes Sachin or Pontin. 5.He shown that he can play everywhere & with any players.(He is averaging Above 50 in australia & he is the Best Player & Batsman for WOLRD TEAM in the World Series. This lines and other more & more things show his Talent,abiliti,dedication & comitment.That's why i think he is the best. |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 5:54pm
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Gilchrist. No question. A simply unbelievable batsmen still even now. Australia could have won the Ashes if Gilchrist was his usual destructive self but Flintoff did very well to tame him and take the wicket of Gilchrist several times. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 6:23pm
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gilchrist then jones, boucher, sangakkara etc |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 12:27pm
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gones cant keep and hes batting isint great and boucher is a crap keeper but a useful batsmen ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 12:48pm
| Gilchrist!!! look at his averages and he is also a very good keeper. with sangakarra a close second |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 1:10pm
Are you saying GERAINT JONES is the second best batting wicky in the world? His batting is good, but Sangakkara, Dhoni, Akmal, Sangakkara et al are all still loads better! ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 1:58pm
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Gilly, Sanga, Boucher, Akmal...
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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 3:15pm
That's more like it. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 3:16pm
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wheres dhoni hes better then boucher anyday ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:26pm
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Gilchrist no doubt then Dhoni or akmal. ------------- |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:35am
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1. Gilchrist- A fine keeper and a fine batsman. He has been the best keeper-batsman in the world for quite a few years now and is known as the best keeper-batsman in history!
2. Sangakkara- In terms of keeping, probably the best keeper today! A useful and quite consistent higher order batsman! 3. Akmal- A fine young keeper! For a while, he looked like he had ended Pakistan search for a decent opening pair when he scored 2 back to back centuries against England in the ODI series late in 2005, but then his batting form went down...and so did his batting position. An exceptional batsman when batting under pressure. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:37am
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i rate gilchrist has best keeper but the best batsmen out of the keepers is dhoni in odis and maybe gilchrist,akmal or sangakkara in tests ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:41am
| Dhoni is not a batsman, he's a pinch-hitter...only that he's a sensible pinch-hitter...which is why he scores runs! But at the end he is still a pinch-hitter and that's why I don't rate him as the best batsman out of the keepers in ODIs or Tests! |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 7:27am
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Sangakkara by a long way ------------- |
Posted By: wccc
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 8:04pm
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ive gone for gilly ------------- Blink 182 rule Travis Mark Tom |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 8:35pm
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MS Dhoni will be next few years or so. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 7:22am
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Kumar Sangakkara, he's a brilliant player. I'm not sure if Dhoni will ever be the best. ------------- |
Posted By: darlo_lad
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 10:15am
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In my opinion the top four would be
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 11:35am
| Akmal is showing form already on Pakistan's tour of England |
Posted By: sosolidsingh
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 5:34pm
| It must be Dhoni in ODIs because he made it to no1 in the world in the batting rankings within a year which is pretty unprecedented seeing as rankings only get that high after loads of games. He has finished everyhting off in rpessure situations and no other w/k batsman at present could hit 184* off 147 chasing a daunting 307. In tests it's probably either Gily or Sanga but Akmal and Dhoni have their best to come for sure. |
Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 4:50pm
I agree. It's a pity that we don't have Andy Flower to add do it. I don't agree that Gilchrist is the best ever wicket keeper batsman. It will be Andy Flower. If you have Andy and Gilly who would you select? |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 5:03pm
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To an extent yes i have got to agree with you we forgot Andy Flower he was really great but now its Sangakkara . ------------- |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 10:03pm
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If you're talking about one of the greatest batting-wicket keeper, also include Rahul Dravid. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: Wal Bada
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:50am
Excuse me. We are taling of wicket keeper - batsman. Their first job is to wicket keep and they must be ranked within top 5 in the country. Dravid is clearly not a wicketkeeper-batsman, but batsman made in to a wicket keeper by circumstances. Sri Lanka's TM Dilshan, Zimbabawe's Tatenda Taibu, West Indies Denesh Ramdin will be a better choice they are even better keepers than Sangakkara (i am not sure whether it is the same for Gilchrist, but definietly not for Akmal) |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 6:49pm
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I said IF YOU"R TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GREATEST. It doesn't matter if he's made into or he was. It just depends on how good he is and how well he bats. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: shan
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 8:47am
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One should try to be spot on mate. It's very easy to beat about the bush, but doing or saying something meaningfull and purposeful really takes some efforts, which most of the people are not prepared to put in. Specific, objective, focused, value adding...........are the key words. Wal Bada is right here, because wicket keeper's primary job is to be a wall behind the stumps, then comes his batting. You can never reverse the order, if you have a cricketing brain. ------------- "Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business." |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:20pm
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i would say kamran akmal, bcz he has proved his self in test matches and also in one dayers ina very little time . he has saved pak in difficult situations and he is improving day by day.as far is dhoni concerned he is not perfect for critical situations when ever he gets in situations like this he gets out.all the big knocks he has played are not in such situations where there is pressure . where as kamran akmal has performed in every situation. ------------- blaa blaa blaa |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:25pm
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I would say Mahendra Dhoni definitely in ODI's. In a few matches I have seen of him on TV, he has absolutely belted the ball into the stands. In Tests he can also be good but Against England in that Test Match in Mumbai he showed that he can get too greedy to score runs too quickly (Monty Panesar caught him second time round!) In Tests the best keeper is most definitely Adam Gilchrist. I mostly say this as he averages around 50 with the bat and can destroy a bowling attack but also I feel that all the other keepers in the world are yet to prove themselves on the Test stage like Adam Gilchrist has. In the Ashes England did very well tactically against Adam Gilchrist and we got him out rather early. If he had stayed in longer the Ashes result could have been different... ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 6:12pm
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MS Dhoni has to prove himself little bit more, he came as one of the destructive batsmen, but now he's form is little down. After few years he will be one of the greatest and best wicketkeeper batsmen in Indian history(not in the world). ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 7:00pm
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Yes Mahendra Dhoni needs to calm down a bit with his batting in test cricket. He's got to stop trying to hit too many sixes (even though he is good to watch!) He will definitely be an incredible wicket-keeper in a few years to come... ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 10:06pm
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He plays brilliantly when he's in form. Remember those 6s in West Indies. Those were absolutely great shots. I agree about his speed. He gets out while trying to hurry up and get big score. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 5:21pm
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That was brilliant in the west indies by Dhoni. A six off his first ball. He really rattled the bowler. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 7:13pm
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Yeah six was good on the first ball but getting out in 20 runs was bad. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 7:31pm
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Haha. but to be fair India did need about 6 an over to win the game so they needed to hurry a bit. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: dhoniisbest
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 3:52am
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Oh well, its gone. Dhoni is not the current best batting-wickerkeeper right now. He could be destrucitve batsmen right now. ------------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 22 July 2006 at 1:39pm
| The best keeper/batsman at the moment has to be Kumar Sangakkara or Kamran Akmal,i'd put gilly there but australian havent played cricket for a couple of months now. |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 22 July 2006 at 4:34pm
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I would say Kumar Sangakkara is better than Kamran Akmal at the moment as Akmal hasn't played as much as Sangakkara yet. But Akmal is definitely a good keeper-batsman. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 12:21pm
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Geraint Jones ? nah sangarkarra. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 1:08pm
You really dislike Geraint Jones. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 1:11pm
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Well no, i just find him comical...It's all in the interest of a laugh he's not that bad. ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 2:15pm
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No he isn't but there are loads better. I even think there are a few keepers in England now that are better than him. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 7:57pm
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Matt Prior ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 8:05pm
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Nic Pothas! ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 8:10pm
My cricket knowledge has gaping holes and that name doesn't mean that much to me  ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Hawks fan
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 11:03am
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He is the Hampshire Wicketkeeper! He is a very good batsman who is also a relatively good keeper. He recently qualified for england. He was born in South Africa. ------------- 700 Posts! |
Posted By: TCA123
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 8:47pm
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How old is he? Oh i have heard the name. I played as Hampshire in my ps2 recently ------------- Offspinner, Right Arm Bat |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 8:54pm
| he's homing in on 33 |
Posted By: mAni_paKi
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:37am
well we better talk about best keepers not Englands keepers history. .------------- blaa blaa blaa |