Shane Warne

yea currently he is probably the best bowler but as soon as he's gone muttiah is gona break his record of most test wickets.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 yea currently he is probably the best bowler but as soon as he's gone muttiah is gona break his record of most test wickets.

Be thankful that you're alive now - Warne is a living legend and the finest slow bowler in the whole history of cricket. Murali is a smashing fella , but he chucks....no amount of fiddling with the rules by the powers that be in the ICC will change that .

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 Muttiah does not chuck and The ICC has already cleared that up so there needs to be no fiddling with the rules and regulations. .

Then explain why the degree of flexion was increased from 10-15 degrees! He doesn't chuck every ball , but far too many for my liking.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 that the rule is changed, it means that he no more chucks because he is allowed to straighten the elbow 15 degrees and he does occasionally as you said. So even if he does straighten his elbow 15 degrees, it doesn't matter now cause the rule has already been changed and you can't say that he's chucking.

That's my point entirely! To keep Murali in world cricket they changed the rules! A lot of traditionalists around the world are not happy with the shifting of the goalposts. Go back to the 60's and the likes of Giffen and Lock were banished because they breached the rules. Lock came back , poor old Giffen did not. What was so sad was that he couldn't straighten his arm due to a deformity - that didn't help him though , he was forced out.

The problem of chucking is going to haunt the ICC after this rule change. Already , Lawson , Shabbir and Harbhajan Singh have been in the spotlight - in my veiw , quite correctly too. All three have suspect actions , with Lawson and Shabbir the most blatently guilty. But our friendly neighborhood ICC has cleared them all to play again - I fear we'll have baseball pitchers before the decade is out!

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 the ICC suspended shabbir from international cricket until he changes his action and shows that he doesn't straighten his elbow more than 15 degrees.

True , under scrutiny he passed the test. Lawson also passed the test after he was first reported , but was subsequently reported again.

My feeling is that the man undergoing the testing works very hard NOT to chuck whilst under observation. That might be obvious , because it's their livelihood we're talking about here , but they're not out in the middle. My belief is that players with defective actions will always transgress - especially when trying for an "effort" ball.

Originally posted by Tiger Massive flintoff is da top player.

Can we stop with the Yat speak please? It really isn't that difficult to type one more letter.

Originally posted by Superbokkie For that reason, as a SAFA, I am sincerely hoping that Shane is injured/performing below his best in the SA-Australia series this summer.

Get off yer knees Bokkie!!

But seriously , South Africa's young guns NEED to play Warnie. He hasn't much cricket left , maybe 2/3 years , so any player worth his salt will want to test himself against the best.

I'm looking forward to Gibbs , Kallis , Smith and young AB taking the topman on - it'll be rivetting!!

shane warne is what makes the aussies so great,  of course he is the best bowler in the world, he has the world record! from loz

A champ leg spiner is  named as shane warne he had picked 628 wickets he is truly the best bowler in the world

 

My opinion is that warne is the best spin bowler out there at the moment. Its hard to say best ever because its very hard to compare one generation too the next.

On the subject of who is better murali and warne on the subject of statistics you Wanre would have to come out on top. Warne has bowled along people side people like glen mcgrath, jason gillespie and more recently bret lee who have all taken there fare share of wickets while murali is the only real bowler in his side and is given the bowl for entire days. Warne has played in numerous tests where he hasnt got a chance or has been left with only a couple of wickets because the quicks have demolished the side.

Don't forget about Stuart McGill. If he had half the games warne had played he would have just as many wickets as warne.

that is 100% true and muralia only has less wickets because he has played less tests.

but the thing is that murali's career has been filled with so much controversy over his bowling action. probably no one in the history of international cricket has had as much controversy in their cricket career as much as murali.

shane warne has been involved in a lot of scandals and things but the ICC didn't actually have a problem with the way he played the game. his bowling action is fine and everything, its just his outside life which has affected his cricket life.

murali and shane are not even close to the same except the fact that they are very evenly matched.

murali has problems inside the cricket world with his bowling action, while shane has problems outside the cricket world like all the scandals and family problems.

if you look at McGrath and Shane, i believe McGrath is better, he's the guy who destroy's the top order and leaves the tail for shane. which means that he can get the better batsman out and shane is only left the tail to deal with.

oh are you talking about the match when england almost collapsed chasing 127 to win? i certainly have to agree with you, shane almost pulled that one off for australia.

well, McGrath is second right and he was first for quite a while now, but shane finally took over...after 10 years.

well, i don't know any unknown facts about him but he has accomplished something that no one has!! and everyone knows about it. he is the first bowler to take 600 test wickets and i believe that he is such a great bowler and he's taking wickets so fast that he will get 700 test wickets by the end of his career.