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mystery 
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Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
 Topic: South Africa tour of IndiaPosted: 08 February 2010 at 7:22pm |
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You can laugh at everyone mate but it wont change that India will became weak after Dravid and Tendulkar retires and they might find it difficult to beat teams like SL and Windies. Yes Steyn bowled well but its not just that it was clear that they are not good enough to play a bowler like Steyn. Stop fooling yourself mate Indian are going downside.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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DRAVID FAN
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3635 |
Posted: 08 February 2010 at 8:41pm |
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In terms of potential, technique and talent, Badir and Vijay are definitely than Dhoni. What they need is a lot of hardwork and good coaching. Badri played really well considering it was his debut and he came in at a pressure moment. There are two ways to look at it at the moment. One, today was just a bad day for all the players or two, replacements for Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman is going to be hard unless and Eden Gardens 2001 is pulled off which I don't see.
All credit to Steyn. Some of his deliveries were unplayable and he got the wickets rather than have the batsman give it away. That also has to be taken into account when judging the debutants. |
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 08 February 2010 at 9:10pm |
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Steyn was too good for this batting lineup. |
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 09 February 2010 at 5:39am |
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100% correct Kahmad but i also agree with DF Badri did a good job for a man who was on debut but i think the problem is that Indian bowling is so weak that they need to bat really well to have a chance of winning. |
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 09 February 2010 at 12:20pm |
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Steyn was simply amazing. That ball that got Tendulkar in the first innings was a beauty. Steyn is a beautiful bowler to watch, that shape through the air is magnificent and I've seen he's added the one that nips back in off the pitch from just marginally wider of the crease than his usual run up. He wasn't bowling as quick as he could either - show's the man has learned a lot!
got to commend Morkel too - he has the number of left handed openers by bowling around the wicket! His pace is excellent as well and combine that with his bounce - a very nasty fella. Most exciting new ball attack at the moment.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 09 February 2010 at 2:28pm |
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Indian players are preparing themself for the ipl.
I expected South Africa to win this test but it was too easy for them. |
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DRAVID FAN
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3635 |
Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:50pm |
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I guess experience does count. The Indian batting was so bad that in spite of two hundreds, they barely touched 300. Shows how bad the others were.
Unfortunately, the teams are not being changed too much in the next Test with the exception of Raina instead of Saha. I was looking forward to and even contest in atleast one of the Tests but I guess thats not likely. |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 10 February 2010 at 4:32pm |
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Wait till the series is over, it was not long time ago when the same SA team found themselves beaten badly in second test against England. Indian will definitely square the series in second test.No doubts about that.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 10 February 2010 at 5:10pm |
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Wow so nicely poised , If SA are to be # 1 , let's see how well they play in a square turner.
In Australia,ENG and SA we would be put to some bouncy test.Now it's our turn to put in visitors in acid test. If SA draws then I would say they truly deserve the #1 and we #2.
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I've been asked to prepare a turner - Kolkata curator
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mystery
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Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 10 February 2010 at 7:07pm |
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They wont draw it they will beat India easily and i dont think India are #2 i rate them as 3rd team behind Australia.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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mystery
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Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 10 February 2010 at 7:10pm |
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It was not the same team Kallis was not fully fit plus Eng had a better bowling attack than India even if they draw it they will be lucky my prediction is they might lose again by an innings. Edited by mystery - 10 February 2010 at 7:11pm |
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 3:43am |
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We can also keep giving lame reasons , but we don't coz we are Number #1 and we will stay there.
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mystery
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Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 4:47am |
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Not for long mate after this series they will be 2 and after few series they will be #3 dont worry. Edited by mystery - 11 February 2010 at 4:47am |
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 9:33am |
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A comprehensive win for the South Africans and some terrific bowling from Steyn. India continue to struggle on wickets that provide some assistance to seam bowling - and that weakness was exploited to the full by Steyn and Morkel. Politics came to the fore once again when Amla was given the man of the match award. Yes it was a fine batting effort , but 10 wickets in a match is so much better!
It'll be a turner next time , but I expect SA to give India a real go. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 9:46am |
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i think toss will be very important if the wicket is going to take turn. South Africa is mentally much stronger than India and they will also win on a turning wicket. Without Dravid it is very difficult to win test matches regularly for India. He is the main man.
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Rocky B
Test Debutant 
Joined: 25 November 2009 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 11:51am |
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India need to play a 3rd seamer for sure, when you have just the two seamers and one of them is Sharma who is inconsistent as hell then you need that back up of a 3rd seamer instead of having to bring on your two spinners on the very first morning of a Test match. Of course Kolkata is more spin friendly so maybe India will go into it with the two spinners but if it is also going to be a decent seamer wicket then you have to play Sreesanth. Yes a 2nd spinner may help as the Test match goes on but if you have already conceded over 550 then that is pretty redundant. They need to fight fire with fire and play South Africa at their own game and go in with 3 seamers and a spinner. Got to be honest with Steyn and Morkel in irresistable form then i can't see anything other than a Saffers win but you never know with India. Also just seen the new world rankings out, Paul Harris at Number 9 |
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 12:27pm |
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VVS Laxman might be back in the squad so that will help India somewhat. Sreesanth needs to play for Sharma.
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 1:29pm |
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they need some quality test bowlers and they dont have any other than Zaheer. Thats why they are play maximum 2 seamers. They rely heavily on their Batsmen and spinners to win the matches.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 11 February 2010 at 2:55pm |
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got to play to your strengths, can't fault India for playing to spinners to be honest, just as Kahmad pointed out.
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 15 February 2010 at 7:41am |
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296 all out is a poor return after Amla and Peterson's centuries and India have made a blazing start in reply. Gambhir was run out and Vijay failed , but Sehwag is creaming the attack to all parts. The little fella is looking ominous too and at 177-2 off just 33 overs , Smith must be very worried. No bowler has been able to contain Sehwag (we've heard that before!) and another ton at faster than a run a ball is just around the corner. Parnell in particular must be feeling rather sick after sending down 4 overs that went for 30.
Some quick wickets required asap or 1-1 is a distinct possibility. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 15 February 2010 at 10:13am |
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What a wonderful show of skill by both Sachin and Sehwag. They are just too good to watch. it will be very tough for SAF to win or even save the match from here given that Harbhajan has finally got his form back. Duminy has failed to live up to the expectations ever since the 166 v Australia - he is played some good knocks every now and then but has massively underperformed. he reminds me of Mendis - probably just a bit too overrated too early. I myself thought he would be the most promising star of SAF batting in the future - but that spot seems to be going to Amla.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:18pm |
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Finally I got some worth by missing some sleep - Virender Sehwag was in sublime form. Hammered Morkel badly at the start of the innings and he seemed to have had his mind on to take out Parnell no matter what.
If India takes a lead of a hundred, it should be a good test match! Not a good game for Duminy, a golden duck and dropping Sehwag at the half century mark.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:20pm |
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SAF will have to pay for the two chances they offered to Sehwag - ABD doesn't belong behind the stumps for sure. Duminy form with the bat is a concern as well. Another 100 runs from here and India will fancy their chances on this track. It is time that Smith and Duminy deliver - specially when Amla is due a failure.
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spin wizard
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The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 15 February 2010 at 1:00pm |
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Khan has Smith's number, constantly exposing that gap between bat and pad.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 16 February 2010 at 8:39am |
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How quickly things can change. India was outclassed in the first test and here they are giving themselves the chance to win by an innings. Harris has been the major disappointment - he did get wickets bowling round the wicket in the first test but it was still not the best option. He should be more attacking. I can't see SAf saving this one. Pity that this series has just two tests with the number 1 position at stake. What a joke.
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spin wizard
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The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 16 February 2010 at 12:18pm |
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Yeah, surely they should have had another game at least and it's sad to see India won't be playing another test anytime soon. It's a disgrace really - missing out on seeing Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Dhoni together which is a real joy.
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dips_december
Number 3 Batsman
The next greatest left arm spinner Joined: 31 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 5230 |
Posted: 16 February 2010 at 3:52pm |
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Looks like India are in with a chance of drawing level and retain the no1 position but I don't think the South Africans will surrender meekly.
The Indian ODI squad has been announced. Yusuf Pathan and Abhishek Nayar have been recalled while Ravichandran Ashwin takes Bhajji's place as he has opted out for the first two ODI's to attend a family wedding. Gambhir is out with a groin injury while Yuvraj is yet to recover from his hand injury. Squad: MS Dhoni (capt\wk), Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Virat Kohli, Dinesh Karthik, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Sudeep Tyagi, Praveen Kumar, Abhishek Nayar, Yusuf Pathan, Amit Mishra. |
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Amal
Extra Cover
Joined: 13 March 2008 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 507 |
Posted: 17 February 2010 at 8:18am |
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Thanks God, Rohit sharma is not selected for ODI team. Anyways SA are 111 for 3 and from here on it will be very difficult from them to even save this test match |
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 17 February 2010 at 9:24am |
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The loss of Kallis just before they came off looks fatal to me. Amla is standing firm again and has had a terrific two tests , but surely the poor form of De Villiers , Prince and Duminy means that his effort will be in a losing cause.
Zuhair is right - a 2 test series between the teams ranked 1 and 2 is farcical. Then again , if it had been left to the BCCI there wouldn't have been any tests at all! Edited by Sledger - 17 February 2010 at 9:25am |
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dips_december
Number 3 Batsman
The next greatest left arm spinner Joined: 31 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 5230 |
Posted: 17 February 2010 at 10:58am |
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Its still very gloomy here all over Kolkata. The rain has caught everybody by surprise and the Indians will consider themselves unlucky if we do have rain overnight or tomorrow but the South Africans won't be complaining.
Weather doesn't looks great but I am hoping against hope that these 7 wickets will come quickly! |
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South Africa tour of India
, shows that world rankings are not all that. If he the 9th best bowler in the world at the moment then im Dot Cotton.