Spin or accuracy? |
Post Reply 
|
Page <1 1011121314 17> |
| Author |
 Share Topic Printable Version Delicious Digg Facebook Furl Google Boomarks Google Buzz MySpace Newsvine reddit StumbleUpon Translate Twitter Windows Live Yahoo Bookmarks Topic Search  Topic Options
|
|
fishcake14 
Opener 
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
 Post Options
 Quote Reply
 Topic: Spin or accuracy?Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:28pm |
|
|
Well, it can become effective if you've bowled a few leggies on off stump and then you slip it in. It also depends how much your googly turns; if you can only turn it from, say, middle and off - leg then it can be more effective, but I get your point.
|
||
|
|
||
 |
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:30pm |
|
|
I hate the flipper. I can bowl it but I have no idea where its going and it goes at about 20 mph. The slider is more than enough at our level though I find the top spinner twice as easy to be honest. For the googly i have taken a few wickets when it pitches on off stump and spun to hit leg. My googly doesn't spin that much, it overspins a lot though.
|
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:35pm |
|
|
My googly took most of my wickets last year but that's partly because I switched to being a leggie 3/4 of the way through the season.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:36pm |
|
|
if you bowl the googly then you are a leggie
|
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:40pm |
|
|
Yeah I know but what I meant was that for 3/4 of the season I bowled the googly as my stock ball, then I switched.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:43pm |
|
|
i can bowl the leggy and toppy well
my googly and slider rnt as good but there getting there
also fishcake, on your web site it says about a different way of bowling a toppy i think, i think i bowl my toppy this was, right out the back of the hand getting topspin by comeing out the finger
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 7:45pm |
|
|
Yeah, that'll be it. I made it up because I needed a straighter one when I was bowling googlies.
I never bowl it now! Edited by fishcake14 - 13 January 2007 at 7:46pm |
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 8:22pm |
|
|
its still a good ball, i got a wicket with it last season, bowled em :P also cameron white bowls it
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 8:41pm |
|
|
Cool. Does White bowl as his normal toppie, or does he use the Warne version too?
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 8:48pm |
|
|
why make a toppie more complicated?
|
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:01pm |
|
|
to be honest i dont hink this other toppie is more complicated
but any way fishcake, i bowl my legg like that toppy, sept instead of coming out the back of my hand, it comes out the side
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:02pm |
|
|
I wasn't trying to, if you bowl googly after googly, bowling a conventional Warne type toppie is going to be detectable, but if you bowl it so it comes out the back of the hand like a googly then it's very well disguised and can bring you more success.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:04pm |
|
 thats like every other toppie in the world mate |
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:05pm |
|
|
yep, and i also found that it got more revs
o yeh and cameron white does bowl this toppie as his "stock toppie" he also bowls legspin the same way as i do, like my toppie, but ot the side of the hand rather than the back of it
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:06pm |
|
|
the toppie is just a leg break except you make the seam point forwards but apart from that you do exactly the same thing
|
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:08pm |
|
Fair enough so! I bowl this one too, I just needed the other one for a while.Edited by fishcake14 - 13 January 2007 at 9:08pm |
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:09pm |
|
|
if you did the exact same thing then the toppie would be rotatiing like a legspinner... rather than a top spinner
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:10pm |
|
|
Eh?
 I don't get you!
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:12pm |
|
|
you bowl teg spin the same way as me?
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:14pm |
|
|
Yeah. And....
Edited by fishcake14 - 13 January 2007 at 9:15pm |
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:21pm |
|
|
nothing, its just that i only know 1 other person in the world that bowls leg spin that way...
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:21pm |
|
|
. Ok!
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:24pm |
|
|
are you not allowed to say things with more than 2 words in?
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
fishcake14
Opener
Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 9:25pm |
|
|
Wait no what am I saying!! I don't bowl legspin like you,mate! I bowl it the normal way!
God, it's been a long day!! 
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 10:06pm |
|
|
u tell me now...
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
arc1
12th Man 
Joined: 06 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 10:51pm |
|
|
The top spinner is gripped the same way as the leggie orthodoxly. The action is practically the same except for the the angle of the wrist/hand and arm for some.
|
||
|
||
|
Pietersen Fan
First Slip
Joined: 11 August 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 924 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 13 January 2007 at 11:03pm |
|
|
yeh thats the same for me, except the hole prosess is moved 45 degrees further round
so my leggy is at 45 degrees and my toppy is at 90
|
||
|
check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 15 January 2007 at 7:44pm |
|
This is so frustrating, you hold it like a leg break, use the same method of spinning the ball except you make the ball spin forward. Understand? |
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
RightHandBat
Wicket-Keeper
The next best batsman Joined: 27 January 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1399 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 January 2007 at 12:58am |
|
It wouldn't be complicated if you explained it alot easier, so he can understand. You face the thumb towards the batsman and bring the wrist over the top, and the seam will be pointing towards the batsman in flight. |
||
|
"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
|
||
|
||
|
70_degree_spin
Opener
Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 January 2007 at 4:02pm |
|
|
oh yeah because that is so simple
|
||
|
[
|
||
|
||
|
Post Reply
|
Page <1 1011121314 17> |
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
