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70_degree_spin 
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 Topic: Spin or accuracy?Posted: 30 August 2006 at 6:47pm |
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What is more important to a spin bowler?
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 30 August 2006 at 6:50pm |
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I think accuracy. I'm not a big spinner of the ball despite my name
being 70_degree_spin but I'm extremely accurate and I have had a lot of
success with my stock leg breaks and occasional googlies and sliders.
What type of bolwer are you and what type do you think is more
important?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 30 August 2006 at 9:32pm |
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Well mate , I'm a leggy and both are important. I more rely on turn to get wickets as I like to make the batsman drive me but it would be a waste of time without accuracy so I would say accuracy the best as we all see Kumble demonstrate that pretty well.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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ashes 2 ashes
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Posted: 07 September 2006 at 7:09am |
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it would have to be both it you want ot be a good consistant spinner
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mikeeboy
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Posted: 07 September 2006 at 11:10am |
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I'd say both. I've sacrificed spin for accuracy over the years and even though my economy has come right down, I don't take as many wickets.
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fishcake14
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Posted: 07 September 2006 at 8:52pm |
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both Look at shane warne and you'll see why. |
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TCA123
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 1:05pm |
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Accuracy.... I would rather be a bowler who hits off stump and cant spin it than a big turner he constantly lets the batsman pull, cut and everything else.
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Pietersen Fan
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 3:50pm |
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ive always been able to turn it alot but ive not always had accturacy, my advice is this: keep the turn, accuracy will come with time |
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check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
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fishcake14
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 4:42pm |
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Yeah, what pietersen said is right. Learn to spin the ball first and accuracy will come with time and practice. Spin is one of the hardest things for non-experienced and experienced batsmen to play. If you can't spin it, you'll be seen as a regular ''slow bowler'' as opposed to a ''spinner,'' and you'll become predictable and most likely you'll be hit round the park. Saying that slow bowlers get wickets by luring the batsman into a ridiculous slog which they'll miss and be stumped off of. To be really successful you'll need to have both. Some days they'll be no substitue for accuracy, other days they'll be no substitute for spin. But there's no substitute for both!! |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 4:43pm |
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Put men on the boundary though and the batsman will get caught. |
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TCA123
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 5:07pm |
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It's a risky way to look for wickets. I agree totally with what pieterson fan said.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 7:23pm |
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Same, its good to see spinners chatting about techniques.
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fishcake14
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Posted: 14 September 2006 at 4:56pm |
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It is risky, but if you're not accurate it's about your only option!! |
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 1:08pm |
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ACCURACY!!!
I stress to you accuracy is the most important thing as a bowler, once you get you calibration and radar going, then you can work on spin, pace, swing, cut, flight, variations, etc. No matter what sort of bowler you are, but particularly if you are a spinner. If your length is off it does not matter how much u spin it - trust me you will be smashed!
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shorty1
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 1:34pm |
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mateee... again sad...wats with you pommies... Spin or accuracy give me a break..... its simple... your called a spin bowler so you MUST be able to spin the ball....if your 8 years old thats all you should be doing....accuracy comes with practice...and this guy that goes hed rather not spin it and hit the top of off..dont be a spin bowler coz ur a disgrace.... anyway...if u actually want to be a spin bowler listen up.... first of alll if your scared of getting hit for 4's or 6's get lost coz thats part of the job... you must bowl attackingly and not be afraid to chuck it up... even shane gets hit down town.... aim for as much spin as you can get and practice pracitce practice to control your main weapin SPIN.... orrrr you can become an offie and bowl flat darts:P |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 5:07pm |
I believe your hero Shane Warne has said many a time that SPIn is more important, and for about the 4th time , accuracy comes with practice.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 15 September 2006 at 11:38pm |
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Shut up shorty, youre full of bull, you think you're the best but in
fact, all your ideas are rubbish. Look at Anil Kumble, taken 500
wickets from bowling in the same place!!!! And shane warne has never
said spin is more important id love proof of that!
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shorty1
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 1:30am |
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mate.....ur a spin bowler u have to be able to spin the ball...obviously if your worth ya chop ud be able to spin the ball and be accurate ....kumble is so good because he gets bounce...and dun forget they all still bowl short balls and full balls...you need to be able to intimidate the batsmen with spin....go become a boring fast bowler if all you want to do is bowl the same ball every ball
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 2:09am |
What are the inswingers, outswingers, leg cutters, off cutters, yorkers, bouncers etc. for then? Go get a brain mate. |
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Jayasuriya
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 4:28am |
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8i thing accuracy because if you get the ball really wide its just gonna go and cost you more runs. By getting accuracy you know where to pitch, then when you get spin your deadly Edited by Jayasuriya |
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TCA123
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 11:56am |
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Accuracy is key. Anil Kumble is the perfect example. For years he has beaten batsman with guile and accuracy rather than big turning deliveries.
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fishcake14
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 7:00pm |
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Thank you TCA! Shorty is a twit!!!!
 
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 9:07pm |
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Shorty, I can't wait for January when us pommies show you aussies whos boss.
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shorty1
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Posted: 16 September 2006 at 10:53pm |
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haha quote: off spinning is the easiest ball to bowl and the easiest ball to bat against..... you no how much things are wrong with that comment
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spin wizard
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 12:33am |
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Without accuracy mate, spin would mean nothing ! As simple as that !
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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TCA123
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Posted: 17 September 2006 at 11:45am |
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Spin would't mean nothing. It would mean you might take wickets at an outrageous average. Accuracy would allow you to take wickets, inexpensively but without spin you'd have a huge strike rate.
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shorty1
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Posted: 18 September 2006 at 12:56am |
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guys guys guys... look at the two leading wicket takers in the world... murli and warne...both huge turners of the ball case closed |
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 18 September 2006 at 6:44am |
...and accurate. |
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cheech
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Posted: 18 September 2006 at 10:59am |
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accuracy, cos wat use is spin, if you spin it away from wicket into a wide? new tactic bowling to gully eh?
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phoenix
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Posted: 18 September 2006 at 11:11am |
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As a batsman I find it heaps easier to play a spinner that just keeps landing it on the spot with little turn, you still need general accuracy to get it in the area you want, but you really need to turn a ball big to worry decent batsmen.
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