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Topic: Sri Lanka in South Africa (2011-2012) Posted: 12 December 2011 at 6:49pm |
A completely out of form Sri Lankan team tour Soth Africa, a formidable out fit, This will be as tough as it could get for the Lankans esp after their series of defeats lately, very hard to see them turn around their fortunes in this series.
A complete domination by South Africa is what I expect, SLN may at most be able to win an ODI and draw a test, I do not see them doing anything more.
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| | Thu Dec 15 - Mon Dec 19 08:30 GMT | 10:30 local 14:00 IST | 1st Test - South Africa v Sri Lanka SuperSport Park, Centurion |
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| | Mon Dec 26 - Fri Dec 30 08:00 GMT | 10:00 local 13:30 IST | 2nd Test - South Africa v Sri Lanka Kingsmead, Durban |
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| | Tue Jan 3 - Sat Jan 7 08:30 GMT | 10:30 local 14:00 IST | 3rd Test - South Africa v Sri Lanka Newlands, Cape Town |
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| | Wed Jan 11 12:30 GMT | 14:30 local 18:00 IST | 1st ODI - South Africa v Sri Lanka Boland Park, Paarl |
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| | Sat Jan 14 08:00 GMT | 10:00 local 13:30 IST | 2nd ODI - South Africa v Sri Lanka Buffalo Park, East London |
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| | Tue Jan 17 12:30 GMT | 14:30 local 18:00 IST | 3rd ODI - South Africa v Sri Lanka Chevrolet Park, Bloemfontein |
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| | Fri Jan 20 12:30 GMT | 14:30 local 18:00 IST | 4th ODI - South Africa v Sri Lanka De Beers Diamond Oval, Kimberley |
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| | Sun Jan 22 08:00 GMT | 10:00 local 13:30 IST | 5th ODI - South Africa v Sri Lanka New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg |
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Posted: 12 December 2011 at 6:59pm |
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No T20s on this tour so SL's chances of managing a win must be pretty low. A lot of their main seamers injured, batsmen out of form, Sanga doubtful starter for 1st Test; all this makes SL huge underdogs. By contrast, SA shaping up to be an extremely impressive Test side. Pace attack is awesome with the addition of Philander now, Tahir is bound to hit his stride and the batting is deep and stacked with ability and grit. This will be a complete annihilation in my estimation, SA to win the Tests 3-0 and the ODIs 5-0. SL may win an ODI if Malinga has a special day or someone like Dilshan plays a blinder but can't see it. This is a great opportunity for the Proteas to make a statement of intent, thrashing the Sri Lankans and sending them back without a win will really send a message to England and move SA up the rankings.
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Posted: 12 December 2011 at 7:17pm |
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Someone I know made an interesting observation. Since Sri Lanka's pay issues, they haven't performed?? Anything fishy? Basically its only Sangakkara been doing the business with the bat.
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Posted: 13 December 2011 at 5:31am |
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I can only see the weather preventing a test whitewash here - the home side should rack up formidable totals and Steyn , Morkel and Philander will enjoy the summer surfaces. Tickets sales have been very slow , with the general consensus here that the Lankans just won't give the South Africans a real test. I hope that's wrong , but I just can't see any way in which the Lankans can trouble the locals.
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Posted: 13 December 2011 at 8:57am |
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It's very disheartening to see if I am being honest. The gulf between these two sides would have been almost unimaginable not so long ago. SL just look a complete disaster since Vaas left, Murali retired and Malinga retired. Their bowling is very shoddy, plenty of ordinary seamers and Herath is average at best. Up against SA's varied and skillful attack, they look like they will get completely outplayed. Dilshan is extremely unreliable at the top, Sanga is awesome but one man can't carry a team, Jayawardene is going through a bad patch, Mathews is very talented but still needs to hone his skills. Their batting overall is pretty weak on paper, especially up against a red hot SA middle order in de Villiers/Amla/Kallis. I wonder if Prince can make a case for himself this series because I would really like to see Duminy given more opportunities. I really hope I am proven wrong but I will be very very surprised if SL can draw or win something. If they do, it will be because one man had an amazing day. It won't be because they all contributed equally and played as a team because they are anything but at the moment.
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Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:54am |
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Prince has an ally in Gary Kirsten , mainly from playing together at Western Province. JP needs to be more consistent and has issues with short pitched bowling. That won't matter in this series , but I don't see him getting a game even if Prince doesn't shine. It could well be that Prince will be almost a spectator in the tests as the scoreboard could well be in orbit before he gets to the crease. JP's still in the frame though and is young enough , mature enough to know he'll get another go. His more than decent offspin is another string to his bow and he could well be a regular feature in the line up before they go to England next summer.
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Posted: 14 December 2011 at 11:41am |
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I think Sri lanka, barring weather, will get steam rolled during the tests!
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Posted: 14 December 2011 at 12:29pm |
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I agree Sledge, his offspin is so underrated. He can definitely bowl and tie up an end effectively/get through some overs if they want an extra spinner to perform that role. I also think he is a fantastic batsman, just needs to be given more opportunities. I know he has a problem with the short stuff but he is talented enough to overcome it. I should like to think SA will look towards him to replace Prince after this series, unless Prince delivers big time. As you said, Prince is likely to come in with the batsman preceding him having piled on the runs and it's never easy to score in those circumstances so I wouldn't be at all surprised if Prince has a difficult series at 6. They might even go in 4 seamers I hear, would certainly be an interesting tactic but I would prefer to see Tahir play so they have an ace up their sleeve if wicket offers turn later on or tailenders stick around. If SL aren't going to be competitive, I hope SA can run away with it and close the gap on England which will make the series between the two sides next year even tastier.
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Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:02pm |
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England by the time they face South Africa next year, may find themselves in the middle of the rankings - as they have to cope some tough cricket away form home. That will be more tastier than and England South Africa series - it will really test England's toughness methinks.
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Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:45pm |
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I fancy ENG to turn over PAK in the Test series (I think PAK will take ODIs) and SL won't be that daunting considering no Murali and SL are not in great form. They then play WI at home, which should be relatively easy. So I think they will still be 1st in the rankings when SA come over.
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Posted: 15 December 2011 at 7:10am |
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I think Tahir will start - in the old days after readmission SA often played without a spinner and battled to bowl even average sides out. They were lambasted in the local press and have been searching for a decent spinner since that time. Harris did a holding job and little else - I always believed that Smith had little confidence in Harris and set defensive fields even when there was some turn. Tahir isn't a world beater but can deliver a wicket taking ball - he is another string to their bow in attack. I still expect the seamers to do the damage in this series - Steyn will shine methinks.
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Posted: 15 December 2011 at 3:56pm |
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South Africa demolish the Sri Lankan batting on day 1 and then post a solid opening partnership, Dilhara has just got rid of Smith, Day 1 of this series has been as decisively in favor of RSA as this series is expected to be. Terrific performance.
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Posted: 15 December 2011 at 4:27pm |
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Philander continues to live a dream life and Steyn continues raking them in for fun! Nothing new, and a good start being 90/1 at the end of play, with Smith going for a well played 50. The Sri Lankan bowlers wasted the new ball. Walegedara gets the new ball to shape well but wasted it by pitching too wide outside off stump.
The other seamer was a waste, some of his deliveries hardly carrying on this surface, which means he hardly gets anything behind the ball. Dilhara, solid fella but delivers nothing really to back it up. He wasn't bad today but on pitches like these, he should have batsmen ducking for cover.
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Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:40pm |
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Just imagine if Steyn wasn't conserved as much as he was and if Morkel didn't have such an off day. It could have been far more embarrassing for SL. SL's bowling looks totally flat and insipid, aside from Fernando who is a steady operator, none of them seem to be Test standard. Expecting 100s from Rudolph and Amla tomorrow.
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Posted: 16 December 2011 at 1:43am |
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I hope Amla is batting after lunch tomorrow, as waking up at 4 AM is beyond me at this moment.
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Posted: 16 December 2011 at 4:19pm |
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Sri Lanka have an improved day but RSA still firmly in control of the match, 99 for ABD and Boucher finally getting some valuable runs. SLN might be able to save an innings defeat but that is all they can do unless a day or so gets washed out.
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Posted: 16 December 2011 at 6:54pm |
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Should end tomorrow, barring a really impressive performance from one of the Sri Lankan batsmen. AB was unlucky to miss out on a deserved 100 but it was nice to see him walk and trust the fielder, just one short of a milestone.
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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 1:03am |
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He he, isn't it always interesting that a bowler can bowl good balls and not get wickets but then his bad ball gets one? De Villers should be shot for hitting that into points hand!
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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 5:03pm |
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Philander becomes the first bowler in over 110 years to take 4 5-wicket hauls in his first 3 Tests. Unbelievable considering that no one was even rating this guy before his first Test. I hope he keeps it going and maintains the consistency, SA desperately need a talented 3rd seamer if they are to pose a long-term threat to England. Still think England have a better seam attack if you take their reserves into consideration, e.g. Finn, Tremlett, Onions. SA don't have that same depth but the main 3 can rival England come next year's series. Only need Morkel to find his form now.
They hardly even bowled Tahir, it may be worth giving de Lange a try in his place if the Durban wicket looks very helpful to seam on the morning of the first day. He appears to be tall and can perform Morkel's role if Morkel is still rusty. If de Lange can shine on the international stage and Morkel finds form then pretty much all of SA's worries are covered. 4 quality quicks plus Kallis, a promising spinner, good opening combination (once Rudolph hits his straps) and class middle order. Boucher got some valuable runs too so SA looking very settled.
SL - The less said the better. Doubt Kulasekara and Prasad are going to add much. Dilshan is so overrated. He is a poor man's Sehwag. The same recklessness and carefree aggression but without the skill to match. The very occasional impressive innings but aside from that, he invariably gets SL off to a poor start. He lacks tactical nous, his captaincy has been very shoddy. Kallis gets rattled by Fernando and he starts by bowling Herath and himself. Atrocious decision making, both as a captain and in terms of shot selection. I hope Sanga and Mahela can fire because otherwise, this could get far, far worse than it already is.
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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 6:46pm |
Vernon Philander, wow what a start to a test career, absolutely amazing. 
Morne is a very special talent BP and I back him to come good, RSA have all their bases covered, this is as good a team as you'd get, not a single weak link. Mark my words by mid of next year this team will be the No.1 team in the world. Absolutely no doubting that!
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 12:13am |
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SA are a fantastic talented side and I greatly enjoy watching them play. Having said that, England are still a better side overall and I still reckon England will be No. 1 mid 2012. I know England have got a couple of tough away series but as I explained earlier, it's still very possible to come out with victories. UAE pitches aren't minefields and SL will be far easier without Murali. ENG should also beat SA. Their bench strength is better. Their openers are slightly better (mainly because of Cook). Their spinner is better. Their keeper is FAR better. Middle order and seam attack is roughly equal. ENG definitely have the edge and if they can come through the subcontinent series' unscathed, they should really beat SA at home. SA will still be a far tougher challenge than India earlier in the year though.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 3:17am |
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SA vs Eng should be interesting but I think England will come out on top due to a more inform batting line up. Both sides have wonderful bowling attacks, Steyn is like 2 bowlers rolled into 1. So, I think whichever side has the better batting will come out on top.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 7:44am |
Interesting that you say Prior is FAR better than Boucher BP! I don't think so, Boucher has taken more catches than any other keeper in history, he is as good a keeper as you'd get and batting wise too I think he is pretty much up there with Prior.
RSA v ENG will be a thriller of a series, Openers yes ENG are slightly better, Middle order I'd edge in favor of RSA it's Hashim, Kallis, AB, Prince vs Trott, KP, Bell and Morgan... I think RSA are slightly better. Seam attack, RSA again very slightly better mainly because of Steyn. Spinner we can say Swann is better than Tahir, but tahir not to be underestimated at all... should be a thriller of a series, but I'd stay with RSA winning.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 2:18pm |
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They're both pretty good behind the stumps. I meant Prior if a far better batsman. Boucher did get some runs but Prior is still much better. They both play a similar role for their respective sides (aggressive late order keeper-batsmen) and Prior has performed this task much better than Boucher. Their record suggests this and Prior has been extremely key to England's success. Can't really say the same about Boucher with regards to SA winning matches. He has been carried along by a dominant middle order (Hash, Kallis, AB).
Middle order is fairly equal I would say but maybe you're right, SA slightly edge it. All in all, ENG is still a better side. I expect it to be tight, possibly 1-0 to ENG.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 2:42pm |
Right about that, Boucher's current form is not as good as that of Prior's but a 5-6 years younger Boucher was pretty much as good!
I don't know if it is a 3 test series or a 4 test series, but I won't be surprised if the final result is a 1-1.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 3:33pm |
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Is Philander really that good to justify 4 5-fors in 3 tests? He kind of reminds me of Darren Sammy, so innocuous, yet so effective. Philander is among one of the best first class bowlers in the world, statistically...
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 4:21pm |
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Mikey, the Philander now is bowling more threatening than the Philander we saw 2 years back. He's been nipping it about both ways. Whether that is due to such helpful tracks, time will tell, but for now he's making the ball and deserves the wickets.
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 7:29pm |
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He's far better than Sammy. Sammy just lands it on a length and tends to get wickets from players going hard at him. His length is nagging and his pace is very mild, which induces strokeplay and thereby, always gives himself a chance of taking wickets.
Philander, by contrast, has been prising out wickets. His seam movement has been brilliant and his length spot on. Sammy gets wickets by players going hard at him, Philander is getting them out even when they are trying to defend. I don't think his current returns are a true reflection of his skill (he isn't THAT good) but he is still better than Sammy and completes SA's attack really nicely.
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Posted: 19 December 2011 at 6:08am |
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No real surprise that the match didn't even go to tea on day 3 - the Lankans were simply outclassed. Philander continues to raise eyebrows , his length is immaculate and he nips it both ways. His success should give hope to all 1st class bowlers slogging it out in their domestic competition. He's been around for quite some time and I've watched him evolve from an average seamer whose strength was accuracy without venom into a much fitter individual with some nip. He's hitting the splice now too , he's a yard quicker - the hard work has paid off. Tsotsobe will be a worried man if Morkel refinds his mojo. Morne had a poor match here and his no ball problem needs addressing - he sends down far too many. Tahir had little to do and will be hoping for more involvement at Kingsmead. He might be disappointed though as the Lankan batting looks frail and the South African attack just looks too strong. BP is right , Dilshan is a very poor man's Sehwag , not only lacking technique , but courage as well - he just doesn't look happy against the pace of Steyn and company. It'll be 2-0 before our test here at Newlands , so I'll be watching a dead rubber - sad that. I'll not be buying a 5 day ticket either and that's a first since arriving in this part of the world!
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Posted: 19 December 2011 at 11:41am |
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He still doesn't have the skill set to justify his success, and I still think he'll be 'found out' soon enough. Let's hope the Saffers don't pin too much hope on him, Steyn is still the man for the opposition batsmen to fear.
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