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    Posted: 27 March 2012 at 4:29pm
That pitch was never going to get easy and ENG as it is don't play spin well, I think SLN already have enough runs on the board to win the game, however, with so much time available they should try to muster another 100 runs and put the game out of ENG's reach.

A very good performance by SLN after a terrible Asia Cup.
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Under 250 to chase and I fancy England. This pitch is not that bad and England can't bat any worse than they did first time round. 
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i think this is out of reach now for England. Maybe thats why they are not trying to take the last 2 wickets to save some time and hoping that it might rain.
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Well it's 340 to win , which before the start of the final innings I also thought was way , way too many. Tis a funny game cricket and records are meant to be broken. Whether this is another one that goes is too early to say , but England do have a chance. 111-2 at the close with Pietersen and Trott at the wicket. I'm with BP here , the pitch isn't unplayable , I've seen pitches turn more on day 1 in India !  
        Still , it's a big ask and these two need to start again tomorrow , take the sting out of the attack and give the others a chance.  It's all about application , no rush , no rash shots (are you listening KP?) and see where you are at each drinks interval.    There's plenty of batting to come , but it's really tough for a new batsman to come in against a decent spinner - the Saffers need to get through the first hour.

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This Partnership is very important if England want to win this. I think its 80-20 at the momet for Sri Lanka. If this pair bat for another 100 runs then it will be 50-50.
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If this was against PAK's attack then I would say no chance but SL attack is really average. If Trott and KP add another 50 runs then I fancy ENG but a couple of early wickets tomorrow and it may be all over because I can't see the last 5 adding 150 runs. 
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Yep , it's going to be interesting !   Just why England keep digging themselves into such a deep hole by batting like clowns in the first innings is driving me crazy!
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should be an interesting day 4 which will also be the final day in all likelihood, absorbing test match, I'd back SLN to win quite simply because a couple of wickets early and it could be all over for ENG.

nonetheless, spirited partnership here between KP and Trott, good fight being shown... can they continue it tomorrow is the big question though?
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Those Dilshan strokes were completely unacceptable. Strauss is getting ripped because of some attacking strokes but look at how Dilshan was playing. Quite literally a shot a ball. Just woeful. 
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for a while it looked like Trott and Prior had moved England into a winning position, but you know from experience that in these conditions, when England lose a wicket, they will lose several, and sure enough that happened.

Sri Lanka's last 2 wicket partnerships in their 2nd innings made all the difference.
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Yes Clobs , coming in against spin asks a lot of lower order batsmen. Fine effort from Trott and Prior , thelatter unlucky to be caught as he was. DRS did England no favours , but it works both ways and the best side won. England woes will continue unless they make their runs in the first dig. To have any chance next week they need to win the toss , bat first and score 350+ !
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A really good effort by Trott. Unfortunately he didnt get much support from the other end. It was being always tough to chase such a big target but they fought hard for it. India got number 1 in the rankings and lost the next 8 matches abroad. Now its Englands turn, they have already lost 4. Maybe 4 more to go...
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Originally posted by kahmad

A really good effort by Trott. Unfortunately he didnt get much support from the other end. It was being always tough to chase such a big target but they fought hard for it. India got number 1 in the rankings and lost the next 8 matches abroad. Now its Englands turn, they have already lost 4. Maybe 4 more to go...
 
No kahmad, India become No.1 in Nov 2009 ..
 
After they became No 1, they toured 4 times outside ... ruling out SL and BD tours ( as they are sub-continent).. They toured SA in Dec 2010 ( Drawn Series ) and followed it with WI - June 2011 (won series).
 
England series started on Jul 21, by the end of August rankings ... India were not Number 1.
 
I mean to say , India stated losing after good 20 months at the top.
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England should be careful here as they are chasing again. They very  well know how close they came in last series in UAE... It was just those 70 runs that they could not score in 4th innings in both the Test matches. 
 
This is the third consecutive match they have lost by slender 70 run margin
 
Last three Test matches for England read
... Lost by 72 runs
... Lost by 71 runs and
... Lost by 75 runs.
 
England were so so close , but could not close the match.I remember Eng tour of SA in 2009/2010, it was 1-1 drawn series , while SA came close to beat on 2 ocassions while England survived by skin of their teeth to escape two draws (1 wicket draws). Looks like things aren't going England way.
 
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84

Hopefully they have done the right selection now , I still say Bopara should have been in the playing 11.Anyway hope that one little partnership does not elude them this time.
By the way Samit is a good player too, but Finn's non selection is sad, so is Bresnan's case ... England are spoilt for choices.
They have got to fit in Bopara, he is one guy who can play spin.He will get England more than 70 in two innings for sure.
 
 
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SL catching was magnificent and won them the match. Thirimanne's catch at short-leg was extraordinary and Dilshan's fielding was fantastic as always. Trott played well but the rest didn't have the class and composure to stick with him.

I agree that ENG keep getting into positions to win and squandering (144 to win in Abu Dhabi, PAK 99 all out in Dubai, SLN reeling multiple times here in Galle) but 70 run defeats aren't slender in low-scoring Test matches. They aren't just losing, they are losing badly.
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They have got to fit in Bopara, he is one guy who can play spin.He will get England more than 70 in two innings for sure.


They won't play Bopara if he can't bowl. He has an injury preventing him from bowling and ENG always want to have a fifth bowler in these conditions. Bresnan is the only option to replace Samit Patel and Finn should play ahead of Broad if Broad is unfit.


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Good win for SLN, Herath getting 12 wickets in the match. ENG were in a good position at one stage but as Clobs said, it was a matter of one wicket and once Samit was in you knew it could all end quickly.

70 run defeats in low scoring games aren't exactly "Slender" but yes ENG have had their moments in all the 3 tests they lost by this margin. Plenty of work to do for them if they want to retain their No.1 ranking, Difficult, but I would say ENG aren't that bad and will pose a challenge against RSA and IND later in the year.
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It is still a slender margin , this are sub-continent pitches.70 run is a slender margin. One extra batsman (Infact England have had one batsman who is not suitable to spin in their line up, that too in test matches).This is nothing but selection mistake on England that has cost them 4 matches in a row.

Nothing but batting inefficiencies on both the sides, make this low scoring matches.
 
I consider only NZ and few pitches in ENG , maybe 1 pitch in AUS/SA as low scoring pitches,other than that none are low scoring as it is made out to be. If a team/teams score less then 99% of the times it is the batsman to blame.
 
 
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Sri Lanka win the toss again and elect to bat first.  Two changes to the visitors line up with Finn and Bresnan starting at the expense of the injured Broad and the unlucky Panesar.  No doubt that Monty is a much better bowler than Patel , but those dropped catches did him no favours.  Mathews returns for the home side , but won't bowl.  Surprisingly Chandimal is left out and Prasad gets a start because of Welegedera's injury.
       The pitch has some grass on it , but it's dry and will crack - batting last won't be much fun.   England haven't played a test in Columbo for 30 years , which coincided with the Lankans test debut!  How things change , the Lankans are warm favourites here to make it 2-0.
                Is it another false dawn for the visitors ? Jimmy Anderson does the business yet again by removing Dilshan and Sangakkara with successive deliveries ! So Sanga has fallen to Jimmy , 1st ball in both tests first innings.   The top man Mahela ,at the wicket now , without Monty maybe they'll catch him this time!
              30-2 after 8.3 overs.
            
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30-2 becomes 30-3 as Jimmy strikes again , having Thirimanne trapped in front. The finger went up and he referred it , so that's also a referral gone for the home side.  Anderson's going for a few runs but Finn is being his usual miserly self - a contrasting opening attack , but an effective one.

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Same old , same old.   No more wickets as the Lankans get to lunch on 82-3. Jayawardene looking very threatening on 40* and Samaraweera 20*.   The new ball and Anderson again doing the damage and then they hit a brick wall.  The fall of wickets in the subcontient seem to follow this pattern and might go some way to explain why England are struggling. The middle order is so important when the ball loses it's hardness and the spinners come to the fore.  England's soft centre has capitulated in 4 successive matches - surely they can't be so stupid as not to see just how the Lankans turn around a bad start ?   England need to hit hard after the break , Strauss can't just hope they'll gift a wicket , he needs to pressurise them.
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Conservative move by England to keep Patel, when the returning Bresnan is a more qualified batsman than he and Panesar is a much better bowler. England are too worried about their batting, and their selection shows this. What mystifies me is that Patel didn't show any great ability in the last test and I cannot see him doing much more in this. His selection is very, very reminiscent of the selection of Steve Smith by the Aussies. Thankfully Iverarity, the new head selector, doesn't rate him and he's likely to lose his Australian contract...
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Yes Mickey , Smith and Patel could be from the same mould and I agree , the selections show more about their  concerns rather than their respective cricketing abilities over their rivals.   Patel's bowling was okay today , but no more than that and surprise, surprise , he failed to take a wicket.  Swann got Mahela with one bowled around the wicket that turned from a shade outside off and was hitting leg , he played all around it ,a cracking delivery. Patel battled to get it off the straight and I got the impression the batsmen weren't concerned     other than they didn't want to get out to a part timer!
               Finn did well to weedle out the other Jayawardene and I think it's pretty even at the close  at 238-6.  Randiv and Mathews won't give it away and Mathews has shown the kind of resolve that the English will need sometime tomorrow.   Personally I'm happy that the wicketkeeper has gone - he's a class act , especially on home turf and getting him for single figures is a real fillup.
                I'm getting old , but forgive me for beating the same old drum - England must get a 1st innings lead to win this and if that means scoring 400 for a lead of around 100 then they'd better apply themselves better than they have this winter!


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England's first innings batting is failing them, time and time again. Can't see how reinforcing the lower order is going to do too much, the top order guys need to perform. Strauss is on his last legs and the rest are struggling against the spin. You dare say that 300 here by SL could be enough for them to push on for a positive result...
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The match is interestingly poised, it all depends on how well ENG bat now because SLN won't be making more than 300, I agree that selecting Patel is a very defensive and meaningless move, Monty would have been a much better choice or for that matter if they want to strengten their batting then even Bopara as a batsmen is a better choice.


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Well 275 all out , a pretty decent effort by the Englishmen and another class knock from Jayawardene. 4 wickets for Swann who is showing signs of returning to form. 
          Now for the hard part , applying themselves , knuckling down and getting a decent score ! 
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Swann finally back to his wicket taking ways, not the same venom like he had a couple of years ago, so hopefully for England he can find that spark again. 275 is a good score, but like we always reiterate, if England can take a 100 run lead then they can win... it's as simple as that. Another loss here and I think Cook will be the test captain very soon, ODI captaincy has brought the best out of him with the bat too... Strauss is starting to look like he has past his expiry date, perhaps prematurely, and not too dissimilar to Vaughan.
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Strauss maintains he's playing well , just not getting a score. Whether he's just kidding himself I'm not sure , but I don't see anyone around who can take his place in the side.  I fancy he might come right , maybe a bit of luck ( being put down perhaps) and we could see him back amongst the runs.   His last ton was against Australia at the Gabba , a long , long time ago.    I hope he does well today , he's got the backing of the side and the management and there's no doubt that he's working his socks off - maybe he's just trying too hard.
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Blimey , England get through to tea unscathed !   Strauss had a few hairy moments but at 83-0 , they're sitting pretty.  They've taken 36 overs to get to that score , so they have reined themselves in and played like test batsmen!  More of the same is required for the final session - I expect Cook and Strauss's tea tastes much sweeter just now !
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Finally a bit of bite and fight from England, just what the doctor ordered. The best two batsmen are in now, if either of these two goes it's almost like the Lankans have broken into the tail! Some good lower order resistance will certainly bat SL out of this match...
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