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Shane Warnabee 
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 Topic: strenghtening the body with exercisePosted: 23 February 2007 at 4:33am |
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yeah, you've certainly helped! What else is there which
contains a lot of protein? |
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 23 February 2007 at 10:34am |
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What, apart from meat (including poultry and fish, and the leaner the cut of meat, the better) you mean? Cheese, as I said, beans, nuts. Eggs. Egg whites are almost pure protein, the yokes contain fat as well as protein. Nuts have quite a high fat content as well, but a lot of this is made of "good" fats anyway. Fish contains, as you've no doubt seen on the TV ads, omega3 which is not only needed by joints but also the brain, in addition to being a low fat source of protein.
Bodybuilders supplememt their dietary protein with protein shakes, but these aren't reccommended for people under 16.
Generally it was thought soya protein wasn't as good as meat protein for muscle building but a recent study shows that atheletes put on just as much lean muscle using soya protein as from whey (the main source of protein in bodybuilding protein poweders, which is derived from milk), so don't despair if you are a vegetarian.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 2:57am |
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Fish is real great! Protein and the least amount of fat! A matter a fact, the seafoods are great! Lobster, Conch, Fish, Turtle, Whale.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 5:16am |
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well then i do have a lot of meat everyday as well as milk and cheese. Shouldn't i be gaining a lot of muscle by now?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 24 February 2007 at 11:06pm |
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Depends on your body! Some persons body depends a lot on food so they don't get big no matter how much they eat. There are others whose body don't really rely much on food so they get bigger quicker! |
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 25 February 2007 at 3:44pm |
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lol i guess i'm one of them! So does that mean i will
be the same for the rest of my life? |
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 25 February 2007 at 7:26pm |
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An ectomorph, skinny type, also known in bodybuilding as a hardgainer. You might have more trouble than most putting beef on your bones but on the plus side, unlike me, you won't have to worry as much about fat. The best bodytype are the naturally athletic buggers who don't carry much body fat, have naturally well developed and well toned muscles, but we just have to work with what we're given. That doesn't mean you can't put on muscle - plenty of bodybuilders started as little skinny guys who just wanted to get bigger. Eating enough is part of it, eating the right things of course, but your body won't build muscle without the stimulus to do so, and that's where excercise comes in. You have to constantly overload your muscles to get the body to rebuild them bigger (so you also need adequate rest, too). Just by eating more you won't get bigger muscles.I'm not going to lie, it takes a long time to build big muscles but you can see a visible increase in muscle size and hardness within a couple of weeks if you eat and train correctly. You won't look like Arnie overnight, obviously, but that's not the point. And the sooner you start, of course, the sooner you'll start seeing results...
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:01pm |
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so i have to rest more often? But the problem is that
i don't go to the gym so gaining muscle will be much harder. I have to admit, my case is the most extreme form of ectomorphism. To make it worse, i'm very active and play cricket 3 hours everyday and i only rest at night! What do u propose i do? |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:46pm |
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I climbed the Volcano back here in St. Vincent yesterday. It took me 2 hrs and 42 minutes. It took me 1 hr and 40 minutes up because I had to wait up on the group and I took 42 minutes back down. I waited at the top for a while. It was real cold up there - had to put on ma jacket! I ran some and walked some on the way back down. I caught some stitches on the way back down else I would have done it quicker. By the way, it was a great exercise although my right calf muscle is pretty sore at the moment but great exercise for the upcoming season.
Does anyone know the reason for stitches. I just can't seem to get over them! Edited by spin wizard - 26 February 2007 at 4:47pm |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:51pm |
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It could be either because your somach's full if you've eaten too much or muscluar spasms of the diaphragm. They occur when the internal organs are bounced up and down when running, and they pull down and cause strain on the diaphragm. Your diaphragm attached to your liver, so the movement of running will put strain on the liver and you'll feel a pain. You should try breathing more deeply when you're running to allow the diaphragm to fully lower, which reduces the stress.  Hope that helps.Edited by fishcake14 - 26 February 2007 at 4:51pm |
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 5:37am |
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According to what I learnt last year during biomechanics there is no actual scientific reason for getting 'the stitch', just many many theories. So pretty much just try what fishcake said, if that doesnt work, i guess just search google.
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 7:50am |
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If you get a good night's rest and take a day off now and again you'll be ok.
You actually break down muscle tissue by lifting weights, the body then rebuilds it stronger while you rest, usually while you sleep. But if you're not giving the muscle enough stimulation to rebuild stronger, you won't get stronger or add muscle. If you're burning a lot of calories running around 3 hours every day playing cricket (I wish!) then you'll probably need to eat more. One of the stupid things about the human body is that it will break down muscle for energy (even before using up fat stores) so unless it has a reason not to (ie, resistance training the muscles with weights) it will certainly not add muscle.
I'd suggest 3 days a week, for 40mins to an hour would be about right for a beginner. If you want to get stronger rather than having bigger muscles then doing fewer reps with higher weight will better, but I wouldn't suggest doing that until you've got a bit of strength built up as it's easy to go too heavy and injure yourself.
Pick a lightish weight to start with, and then you can always add weight. A couple of sets of an excercise that allows you to do 8-10 repetitions and no more (it should be little short of 100% effort to do the last repetition of the second set) should be about right.
It may be (I don't know) that you have not had your growth spurt yet, and I don't know your height, weight, etc. My brother was always a really skinny sod and I was on the fat side, but then he ballooned and I slimmed down, so you can't take for granted your basic body shape will be unchanged beyond puberty (and there's something called beer, too, which can change the way you look considerably...).
Like I said, a dirt cheap option if the gym won't let you in is a pull-up bar that fits in a doorway. You can get them for about £7 or something. You can do underhand pullups for biceps, overhand widegrip ones (hard) which are the best excercise for your back you can do, it'll fit lower down too for situps as well (or if you're acrobatic and know what you're doing, you can hook your legs over the bar and do hanging sit-ups), and if you add pushups (and those grip-handles that make them harder are very cheap, too) and chair dips for your triceps (you can always put something heavy on your lap when these become too easy) then you'll have a pretty good workout just using your own bodyweight. A pull-up bar is one of the best investments you could make. And as for those forearms you were talking about, your grip and forearm strength will improve from pull-ups as well.
If you're really wanting to bulk up and put on some weight and muscle, then you want to think about a proper weight training routine based around compound (multi-joint) moves and include bench press, squats, deadlifts as well as those wide-grip pull-ups, as the big compound moves are the ones that will fill you out (as well as add serious strength). I'd say go out and buy a copy of Muscle & Fitness magazine or something like that and check out that forum I mentioned. But since you're playing cricket and not rugby, the door-frame pull-up bar would probably be a good choice for the time being.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 11:57am |
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how about push ups rambo? Will that help?
By the way i'm about 5ft 8 inches and weigh around 43 kilos and i'm almost 15. Are u a fitness trainer as you seem to know a lot about this subject, thanks again |
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 12:03pm |
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LOL my case seems similar to that macgill guy
who posted something like this before |
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 4:38pm |
That's tiny, you're not even 7 stone! And if anyone tries to tell me a 7 stone 15 year old is an ideal weight....
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 5:52pm |
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I'm into bodybuilding. I applied for a couple of fitness trainer jobs but they wanted someone with the Fitness NVQ so I'm thinking of doing a qualification in my spare time (I do security work).
Pushups would be part of that bodyweight training regime, in addition to pullups (both types), sit ups and dips. But you must be all skin and bones, mate. You probably should think about bulking up with proper nutrition and a weight-training program.
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 6:47pm |
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hey rambo, i'm taking part in a triathlon in August and want to start a good diet for a long distance runner in preparation. Do you know what i should be eating?
Plus I would also like to know how to really buff up in a small space of time, so I'm a bear, ready for the new season. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 8:20pm |
Thanks a lot matey! Although my guts wasn't full - I only ate a pack of biscuits that's pretty small! I think it was the bouncing up and down of the internal organs cause I was dropping a lot because it was rocky!
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 10:10am |
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lol i am actually!
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 2:59pm |
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Don't ask me about endurance stuff (triathalon - are you mad, or just masochistic??). Size and strength, yes. Cycling, swimming and running till you puke, no.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 3:32pm |
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well rambo i guessed as much that you would be shocked
when you found out how much i weighed. At the moment i don't have a pull up bar(i'm gonna buy 1 soon)so will a lot of push help me put on weight and muscle? |
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 3:34pm |
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i don't think the ntrition part will help though
i'm already consuming tonnes of food so how much more can i consume? Any more and my intestines will burst |
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 4:10pm |
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Well probably keeping a food diary for the week where you write down everything you eat (that includes snacks and drinks, and preferably when you ate them, too) would be a good start so that you can work out how many calories and how much protein you're getting, and go from there .
I myself eat every 2 to 3 hours while I'm awake, and try to get about 20-40 grams of protein with each of these, so that I get about 200g of protein per day. And I'm pretty much hungry constantly, even eating every couple of hours.
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 4:15pm |
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k i'll try that i was just interested about
steroids are they good or bad? i guess they're not ment for my age anyway!+ i think they're illegal? |
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 7:16pm |
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I certainly would not suggest you or anyone else take steroids. I don't and I do not intend to. In any case, like I said, at your age you should have naturally high levels of testosterone and growth hormone in you anyway.
If you train and eat correctly there's no reason to take steroids to get bigger. The only reason would be if your doctor decided you needed them because your body was not producing them itself. But, at the risk of offending, if your balls have dropped it's unlikely you would.
There are numerous side effects from taking illegal anabolic steroids that range from minor (like acne, and not just on your face) to major (testicular cancer, for instance). I certainly would not advocate their use at any age, let alone 14 or 15.
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Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:16pm |
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It's weird you know, we use steriods and ban athletic substances and we don't even know. I heard that vicks in America contains a ban substance will the ones in the rest of the world doesn't contain any!
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Posted: 01 March 2007 at 2:56pm |
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Well there was that over-the-counter med that British skier bought in the USA and didn't realise that the US version had a banned substance in, wasn't there?
As far as anabolic steroids go, IIRC in the UK it is legal to own them but not supply them. I think you can even legally import them for personal use, but don't quote me on that.
I personally, would not use something I know to have possibly fatal side effects just to gain an advantage in muscularity. I'm not a pro bodybuilder, I do it because I enjoy it. I spend enough money on legal supplements that I know are pure and safe, like whey protein powder, creatine and glutamine, without wasting money on illegal steroids that, given the nature of buying illegal drugs - could be bloody anything, for all I know.
If, however, someone was set on taking them, there are far better sources of information than myself that can be consulted on their use. If someone was going to take them, despite me trying to talk them out of it, I'd hope they were going to seek expert advice and information on the matter first.
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 4:21am |
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does throwing help improve the shoulder and biceps?
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Not really! I don't know if anyone ever really wonder why Walsh shoulder never failed him although he bowled a lot. When he use to field ball in the boundary, he never use to pelt it back up like other bowlers. He use to "over-arm" it back to the keeper and thus preserved his shoulders. I do the same too - when I know I can't run out the batsman, I hold the ball and just over-arm it to someone close or just bearly throw it to the keeper or bowler. |
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 4:51pm |
Do a few press ups. They'll help those areas and others too.
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