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Poll Question: Best ODI All-Rounder
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    Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:27am
It is the only thing Aust. is missing..excellent keeper/batsmen (benchmark), excellent openers, best 1st drop, strong middle order, brilliant spinner/s, excellent fast attack, best fielding side in the world...AHH VOID no classy allrounder.
 
Flintoff should not have got that 100, he was as PLUMB as it gets on 8 to Warne.
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As an Australia you can't miss Flintoff's natural skill with the bat. It would need a good ball to get him out.

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I've seen Symonds hit Doosra's and other Murali tricks for !6!. How does Flintoff go against quality bowling?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:45am
symonds got stumped in the vb series from muralis doosra
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MiNiWaRnEy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:19pm
Yes, and in the next game Murali got 0 for 99 off 10 overs, he was on the receiving end from Symonds.
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true great to watch aswell
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for starters symonds doesnt slog, and he can defend when he needs to and has been in test matches so far but he has defended too much as he feels he cant play his natural game, Flintoff got hit chance as being a quality bowler how can symonds get a chance is such a great decade for australia were limited changes were made he can bat,feild and on his day bowl so symmo for odi in test flintoff but there is a little bit of time for that to change if symonds gets himself into test match mode in south africa
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When has symonds dropped a catch???? symonds can play attacking cricket SHOTS and slog aswell
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

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hahahaha i wish you knew how wrong you were thats my brother and we just happen to be big symonds supporters so i aint SYMMO hahahahaha
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We beelieeeeve youuuuu!

Symonds and Flintoff are both fine all-rounders! But Flintoff has certainly done a lot more for his country so that leads me to say that he's better!
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In Tests Flintoff is arguably the best player in the world. In last 35 tests he averages 42 with bat and about 25 with ball. Symonds isn't test quality. In odi's Flintoff is absolutely unbelievable and possibly the best in the world again.

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Mat Runs HS   BatAv 100 50 W   BB   BowlAv 5w Ct St
Flintoff        &nbs p;  50 1738 123 46.97 3 10 66 4/14 23.31 0 16 0

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 10:59am
Freddie just gets better and better.

He probably won't have a batting average against Australia at the end of the year!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MiNiWaRnEy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 11:46am
He doesn't have enough tons to prove his ability as of yet though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 12:05pm
Who doesn't have enough tons? Flintoff?
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Clobs , it's head in the sand stuff , isn't it!!
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If they all pretend hard enough that he doesn't exist maybe, just maybe he might not arrive down there in November to bash them!
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Flintoff is leading like anything. It's kind of obvious that he is a much better player. See I had said this earlier and I'm saying it again that he is a more dangerous and a more popular and known by the whole world that he is one the greatest allrounders right now. Symonds is not known to be that dangerous. Live with the fact that Flintoff is better unless you look at it like "the England team doesn't have many good players so Flintoof stands out and is the best." " Symonds team is very good so he is overshadowed." That;s not true. Plus Flintoff's bowling is way better than Symonds anyday.
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When was the last time you say Symonds bat DRAVID FAN

Obviously not for a very long time or not ever.

Don't make comments if you haven't seen him play on TV because he is a mamoth of a hitter.

Don't down grade Symonds because he is just a batsman and a bit of a bowler. Flintoff is a totally different category, he actually is an alrounder

Although in the stats I made in the last page of this topic their bowling isn't that different

Flintoff gets wickets in ODI every 5.9 overs and Symonds every 7

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:39am
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Flintoff gets wickets in ODI every 5.9 overs and Symonds every 7



The difference is that Flintoff knocks guys over , Symonds buys his because batsmen take him on.

Those figures mean little , just stick to cricket skills and then you'll see which of the two can REALLY bowl.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clapo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 8:20am

Bit of a stupid comparison really...

Even as a one-eyed aussie cricket fanatic  even i can see that Flintoff is easily a better alrounder than symonds. He bats with more control, perhaps not quite as devastating as symonds, but definetly a lot more control. His bowling is streaks ahead, only comparison that symonds beats him in is fielding...

Symonds isn't a test player, thats all there is to it, and flintoff is equal with him in ODI's, seems obvious to me that freddie is better...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 1:36pm
Clapo, I don't believe you are really an Australian - you are far too rational and open minded 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 2:04pm
flintoff showed today that he can bat as aggresive if not even more aggresive then symonds  after smashing two 6's and a 4 in one over
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Well thats againsnt India

Symonds has smashed the English bowling line up in England, and other fast and slow bowling line ups around the world.

Also Flintoff can afford to have a hit because he is a lower order batsman, Symonds can come in at No 4 and hit 6s

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you aussies are to biased, never admit that someone from another country is better but thats why there are good players from australia, they say to themselves that they can beat any team and thats why they do it cause they don't want to let their mouth down but flintoff is better than symonds, what an allrounder he is. Bettter with the ball and look better with the bat for the past 2 years, but symonds average is a little higher thats all but symonds is better in the field, what a genius. flintoff workload with the bat is much cause the english batsman are salt in india while symonds can just come in and it and get not out.
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Well thats againsnt India

Symonds has smashed the English bowling line up in England, and other fast and slow bowling line ups around the world.

Also Flintoff can afford to have a hit because he is a lower order batsman, Symonds can come in at No 4 and hit 6s



you really do live in your own little fantasy world, don't you?

This same Symonds who "has smashed the English bowling line up" averages 22 against England....very very ordinary
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