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ANIL KUMBLE 
Opening Bowler 
7000 test wickets Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 8043 |
 Topic: The 2007 Cricket World CupPosted: 25 January 2007 at 1:38pm |
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Don't forget Kenya have the best all-rounder outside test nations in Thomas Odoyo he is also very expierenced campaigner and with the youth of Tanmay Mishra & Hiren Varayia they could possibly beat England in there table and if they do they will a spot in the Super 8 but I can't see them beating New Zealand.
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Italian Cricket
3rd Man
Joined: 05 January 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 1:42pm |
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To be honest as bad as England are playing in ODI i cant really see them getting beat by Kenya,
No disrespect to Kenya!!
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Italian cricket captain of the future!!
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ANIL KUMBLE
Opening Bowler
7000 test wickets Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 8043 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 1:49pm |
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It depends if Trescothick & KP are in the starting X1 then they will run through the Kenyan team but Trescothick wasn't even named in the 30 man sqaud for the World Cup. KP will be fit and firing for the world cup but remember in the last world cup Kenya did make it into the Super 6 infact they made it in the Semi-Finals to everyones amazement. They beat Sri Lanka in that time nobody expected that so we could see them cause another shock defeat. Kenya always seem to shine on the big stage, kind of....
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Italian Cricket
3rd Man
Joined: 05 January 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 1:56pm |
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ok,
so do you think that they should be a test nation?
KP on form will rip them to shreds!!
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Italian cricket captain of the future!!
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:13pm |
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Is KP the guy thats out with a few broken ribs because he couldn't handle the pace of old man McGrath?
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Italian Cricket
3rd Man
Joined: 05 January 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:16pm |
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ye that's the guy
the same guy who has it the slow paced Brett Lee for six!!
Do you now the fastest bowler and his speed for Kenya?
I'm sure it dosent come near the pace of lee!
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Italian cricket captain of the future!!
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ANIL KUMBLE
Opening Bowler
7000 test wickets Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 8043 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:17pm |
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I don't think Kenya should get test status. ODI is a totally complete different game any team can cause an upset. Bangladesh beat Australia, Pakistan, West Indies in ODI's yet the only team they've beaten in tests after 40 odd matches is Zimbabwe and only twice. Kenya can be unpredictable, when someone like Kenya plays England 9/10 England would win and there's always that upset no one sees coming. Edited by ANIL KUMBLE - 25 January 2007 at 2:17pm |
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ANIL KUMBLE
Opening Bowler
7000 test wickets Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 8043 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:18pm |
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I think it's Neihmah Odhiambo or Peter Ongondo there fastest bowler probably reaches 142 kp/h tops.
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Italian Cricket
3rd Man
Joined: 05 January 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:22pm |
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thanks for that!!
Its not exactly Lee or Ahktar pace but you wouldnt expect that!!
Just to say the delivery that broke KP's ribs wasnt genrally to do with the pace but to do with the poor timing of the shot and possibly swing! |
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ANIL KUMBLE
Opening Bowler
7000 test wickets Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 8043 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:32pm |
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Even Paul Collingwood would have left a bruise had that been him bowling to him. He's lucky it wasn't Brett Lee otherwise he would have had a puntured lung and stop breathing for a while.
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3rd Man
Joined: 05 January 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 178 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 2:36pm |
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Ouch!!!!
Dat would have ment him out of the World Cup!!
If that would have happened England would have been in rite trouble, There you go 143no, it had nudin to do wid the old man's pace, just pieterson's poor shot selection and timing
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Italian cricket captain of the future!!
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MalikBrother
Short Leg
Joined: 25 January 2007 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
Posted: 25 January 2007 at 11:01pm |
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i would go with Pakistan team -- Pakistan team is becoming full strong now is thanks to Mohammad Asif and Shoaib Akhtar - Pakistan will be favourite to watch just like Pakistan was in WC 99 - -
First Choice Would that be Pakistan --- Second Choice will be South Africa or Sri Lanka cause there is no way they both team gonna let Aussie win this WC |
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 26 January 2007 at 2:31pm |
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Nice balanced view malik.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 26 January 2007 at 4:40pm |
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True! SA in Cronje's time was like unstoppable. They had a good record in ODI's with Cronje as captain. I can't remember the exact figure! Got to remember too that was when Kallis, Pollock and Donald was around and they were all good! Kallis used to come on as first change - don't see that happening these days. Edited by spin wizard - 26 January 2007 at 4:40pm |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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mihir_ozz
Test Debutant 
Joined: 29 December 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 26 |
Posted: 29 January 2007 at 11:38am |
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Well England won't advance to 2nd round this time also....its very difficult Cause Kenya & Kiwi's will destroy them.....and look at england's current one day form..... Ireland can pull 1-2 surprises in this world cup they can win over Zimbabwe....... And if Bangladesh is well prepared and out of their day dreaming then India might sit out of 2nd round.....way indian cricket is heading seems no future after Sachin,Savrav,Dravid,Kumble. all in their last year probably Final Mostly------------ Australia Vs Sri Lanka/West Indies/South Africa...............Windies Home Support and if Lara Decided to Touch the Sky he will It all depends on injuries to players and all the factors.....Like Shoaib Akhtar all many English player are very delicate...except Kevin Peteirsen & Freddie...What happen to the fitness....and Marcus should never be selected again......coward Edited by mihir_ozz - 29 January 2007 at 11:45am |
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sana_boy
12th Man 
Joined: 30 January 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 2:34am |
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my options are Australia,Sri Lanka, West Indies, South Africa and New Zealand
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Mojo
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Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 1:29pm |
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Hi guys. I'm new to the forum, but I'm not new to cricket. I've read every post in this thread already, and I was quite intrigued by the variety of responses.
Ok, just to get the obvious out of the way, I'm a South African supporter, and I'll be backing them for the world cup. Now I know that our team has a notorious reputation of failing in crunch matches, but that alone should never be enough to rule a team out completely (glances at Sledger). We were 2-2 level with Aus in the ODI series last year, and overcame overwhelming odds (424 runs) to win the series 3-2. If that doesn't prove we can keep our cool, then nothing will.
If any team has a chance of toppling Australia from their throne, it's South Africa.
Shawn Pollock is the world number 1 bowler and all rounder in ODI's, and with backup from Ntini, Nel and Kallis, our bowling is up to scratch.
With top notch batsmen like Smith, Gibbs, Prince, Dippenaar, AB de Villiers, Kallis, Pollock and Boucher, there's no lack in the batting dept. As for the fielding, it's never been better.
And we've got some of the best big hitters in the world today with Kemp, Van der Wath and Telemachus. Anyone who writes this team off hasn't been following their recent form.
This upcoming ODI series against Pakistan will tell the outcome of the World Cup. If we can give Pakistan the whitewash that we gave India a month ago, then that trophy is as good as ours.
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Mojo
Square Leg
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 1:43pm |
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Oh, and don't forget that one South African is holding the England squad together at the moment, and his name is Kevin Pietersen.
Just thought I'd throw in that bit of information, not that it has anything to do with the SA squad in any way though... But just imagine if he played for SA instead!
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 1:58pm |
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South Africa have been favourites to win the world cup on two occasions lad - they didn't make the final in either tournament!
Check that out , they actually scored more than 424.
Dippenaar! get a grip lad , he won't be in the squad.
No it won't , conditions are totally different . The Asian sides will be much happier with conditions in the Caribbean than the South Africans will. Your bowlers won't have anything nice to say about Guyana's wickets! SA are in with a chance , no doubt about that , but don't get too excited just to be disappointed yet again. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Mojo
Square Leg
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 2:17pm |
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That's no reason to rule them out of this one. Favourites don't always win. Brazil is always the favourites to win every soccer world cup, but just because they don't win the previous one, doesn't mean they're gonna be a write-off for the next one.
Sorry, that was a typo. They had to beat 434 runs, not 424. My mistake.
That's only cos we've got too many good batsmen to fit him in. Any other team would kill for him. (Barring perhaps Aus)
As far as I remember, the last time SA played an ODI series against WI in the Caribbean, we gave them a whitewash... Think about that.
What's the point being a supporter if you're not gonna give your team 100% support? Edited by Mojo - 30 January 2007 at 3:50pm |
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Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8838 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 2:20pm |
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hahahaa teams killing for Dippenaar!
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Mojo
Square Leg
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 30 January 2007 at 2:36pm |
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Ok, ok... Maybe I did get a bit over-eager by including Dippenaar, but he's by no means a slouch. On a good day, he can be as impressive as anyone out there.
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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 3:19am |
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Is anyone currently watching the Commonwealth Bank Series? NZ beat england comfortably (though anyone would) and have given Australia a run for their money in the last two matches. With Styris coming back and our batsman hitting form i'm predictating big things for the NZ side this world cup. Possibly a semi-final appearance. What do you guys think? |
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Good one Graham!
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shan
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 30 December 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1324 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 5:37am |
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They defintately stand a great chance of making it to the finals if the WC is being played in Australia/NZ.
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"Excellence is something we can reach for; perfection is God's business."
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 6:46am |
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I almost died when I read his comment Clobs - could barely read the rest of his post , my eyes were streaming! Sill Mojo , nothing wrong whatsoever in backing your side , they'll give all the others a run for their money. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Mojo
Square Leg
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:12am |
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I'd never discount any of the big teams from making the finals. Not even England. One-day cricket is a very funny game. All you need is a good run of luck, and before you know it, the finals are upon you. Just look at India in the last tournament. Lots of other teams deserved to be in the finals ahead of them, but they pulled it off.
As for New Zealand, I don't see why they can't do it. They might not have an all-star line up like Australia, but on their day, they can beat any team.
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 7:28am |
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NZ will like the conditions over there and won't be taken lightly by anyone.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Mojo
Square Leg
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 369 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 8:46am |
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You know, the fact that you find that funny proves your ignorance in this matter. SA played a series in the carribbean 2 years ago in which SA whitewashed WI. So I think we rather enjoy their conditions.
And the man of the series was none other than Boeta Dippenaar.
2006 was a pretty good season for him too, averaging 40 in ODI's. SA is yet to play ODI cricket in 2007.
Your attempt at humiliation is futile if you don't know the facts.
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:23am |
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Right - no pussyfooting now - if Boeta Dippenaar is sooooooooooo brilliant , tell me why he can't make the 15 man squad for this Pakistan one day series?
Facts - lad , before spouting off here show a little respect. If you post rubbish , be ready to be ridiculed!! |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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KiWiNiNjA
Test Debutant
Joined: 31 January 2007 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:24am |
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With the Black Caps finally finding some batting form thanks to two 300+ scores at the WACA, i started thinking about our chances at the World Cup. If ( and thats a big IF) we dont get anymore injuries before the World Cup, i was thinking our Starting XI could look something like this:
1. Lou Vincent
2. Stephen Fleming
3. Ross Taylor
4. Scott Styris
5. Craig McMillan
6. Jacob Oram
7. Brendon McCullum
8. Daniel Vettori
9. Kyle Mills
10. Shane Bond
11. Mark Gillespie
Now, I'd say 9 out of those 11 places are already locked in. The only real positions up for debate would be Craig McMillan/Peter Fulton, and then Mark Gillespie/Jeetan Patel/James Franklin.
With McMillan over Fulton i really think it comes down to McMillans ability to bowl (Especially since the retirement of Nathan Astle). Also, i see Fulton as more of a number 3-4 batsman as opposed to 5-6. With Taylor and Styris locking down the 3 and 4 slots respectively, i dont really see a spot for Fulton.
A case for both Fulton and McMillan to be included and a bowler being left out is also possible. Say a bowling line-up of Bond, Mills, Oram, Styis, Vettori with McMillan as a part-timer. This would give the team a shorter tail.
Then there is the Gillsepie/Patel/Franklin spot. I think Gillespie really deserves a starting XI spot after his introduction to ODI's. He has shown some pace, and while being expensive at times, has also bowled some excellent spells when needed. Also his death bowling has been more than acceptable.
Ofcourse, if its a slower/turning pitch Patel can be expected to be included. But when it comes to Franklin, i really dont see him playing much with a fit Bond and Mills in the side. Although he provides a decent bat, and the variation of being a left armer, I'd rather see them include an extra bat ( of the likes of Fulton) rather than have Franklin in just because he can swing a bat. His economy rate is far too high, which allows the opposing batsman to target him while the likes of Bond and Mills can be seen out at the other end.
Another key to the side is McCullum batting at 7. Even though he could be an explosive opener, i really dont see a quickfire 20-30 being as helpful to the side as a run a ball 40 near the end. In the last 10, not only does he provide the ability to hit the ball over the ropes, but with his quick running allows for singles to be turned into 2s (especially in the case of his batting partner hitting down the ground).
With the side i have put up, I think the Black Caps have a great chance at this World Cup. With inform players like Vincent, Taylor, and the red hot Oram, along with the reintroduction of Styris and the super-fast McCullum back at 7 we are a real threat on the batting side. And with a bowling lineup of Bond, Mills, Oram, Vettori we can certainly hold our own on the bowling side.
So tell me, what do you think of the side? McMillan or Fulton? Gillespie or Patel or Frankilin? or something completely different?
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