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    Posted: 16 May 2006 at 12:27pm

I forgot about Cook being a leftie too. I think the Aussie spinners will look forward to bowling to the top order in the 2nd innings...thats for sure.

At least Vaughan, Pietersen, Collingwood, Flintoff and Jones are right handed batsmen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2006 at 1:52pm
I know it's early days but who do people reacon will win in the Collingwood/Bell/Shar(is that how it's spelt) fight? or will some one like Key brake back in to the team?

Key, Bell and Shar are bound to have good county avrages this seson if they dont play any test cricket. Can Coly play well enough to ceep that place?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2006 at 2:28pm
Now that Cook has shown his class and the imminent return of Vaughan is on the cards , I think none of those three will make the side!

Collingwood has been a solid performer , as had Bell before India. Shah had one lovely knock but is a liability in the field and plays too many rash shots.

Key won't be back , even though he's lost all that weight , he's had his chance.

Injuries will play a part , Bell and Collingwood will be the 1st choices , Shah down the list.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2006 at 8:12pm
I think that England's best players should not play any test matches before the Ashes and that only reserve players should play for the time being.

After all it doesn't matter if England loses to a team other than Australia and that way, without key players, England will have a good excuse as to why they lost. In addition, non-Ashes matches aren't important whatsoever and should be treated with the casual disdain they deserve.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2006 at 8:17pm
We can go down in the world rankings losing to teams even if they are not Australia plus we want our players to be regularly playing at international level so that they are in form for the ashes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 6:17am
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After all it doesn't matter if England loses to a team other than Australia and that way, without key players, England will have a good excuse as to why they lost. In addition, non-Ashes matches aren't important whatsoever and should be treated with the casual disdain they deserve.


Very tongue in cheek , nice touch!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 7:12am
Originally posted by Shoaib_UK

I think that England's best players should not play any test matches before the Ashes and that only reserve players should play for the time being.

After all it doesn't matter if England loses to a team other than Australia and that way, without key players, England will have a good excuse as to why they lost. In addition, non-Ashes matches aren't important whatsoever and should be treated with the casual disdain they deserve.
Disdain or not I know one thing for sure, pakistan will come roaring down on england, to finish up what they started in Pakistan, and believe me Shoab, Asif, Sami and Rana all have shown great form in england and would love to cause a lot of dents in english aspirations for the coming Ashes.
so far so good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 7:43am
Bad news for everyone who's getting a ticket to the MCG match. Its going to be a sell-out, 100,000....... I might not even get my ticket. They will all beat me to it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 8:51am
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Bad news for everyone who's getting a ticket to the MCG match....


What's the bad news for those GETTING a ticket?

The word is that they'll be tickets available for days 2-5 without much difficulty.

Ground capacity is 95,000 as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 10:10am
I pointed out one thing in one of my previous posts that ausies are more or less going to have the same team once again that they had when they lost, so not many surprises, Martyn and clarke are back, so is with gilespee, so a similar team almost, one that lost. Is it good for england!
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It could be too easy Wisey , they'll all be 18 months older as well!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2006 at 12:00pm
I dont know if the same players with an urge to win pose greater problems on home turfs, but I think by playing the same team the whole idea of dropping them is lost, think of it that between the series they could'nt find 3/4 decent replacements, infact the only diffrence would be Mike Hussey surely. If I were to select the team I would have gone for Braken and clarke, and may be macgil as bowling options and surly Hussey, as these players add surprises for visitors.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 5:55am
Michael Vaughan finally pulls on a pair of pads again , this time for Yorkshire against mighty Scotland!!

He did well too , effecting a run out before top scoring with 67 (9*4 1*6 67 balls). He went to that fine clansman Dewald Nel (!!) via a brilliant catch at square leg by England reject , Gavin Hamilton.

Very satisfactory for all England supporters and extrememly worrying for all Antipodeans - Scotland being such a major force in world cricket.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 6:24am

I don't think I saw one Australian supporter in the crowd whilst watching the Ashes. Hopefully the large Australian stadiums don't let too many poms in

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 7:14am
There were plenty of Aussies in England , but they didn't have much to shout about.

Don't worry lad , the Poms will be there in force!

Melbourne always seems to have crap weather , let's hope for a change of fortunes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 12:18pm

first off sledge we should not be called poms for pom means prisoner of the motherland and was given to the convicts by the red jackets bit of history for you

I personally think that the squad should include Collingwood as he splits the two big hitters. I still think Cook is too back foot dominated and I can't see that doing well on the quick pitches of Aus

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 12:24pm
I'm going to that ashes test at the MCG it will be the first time im going to a cricket match,I just went to the MCG on friday night for the first time to watch the footy and I must say the atmosphere is brilliant,I definately need to get out more im going MCG again this saturday night.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 12:42pm
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I personally think that the squad should include Collingwood as he splits the two big hitters. I still think Cook is too back foot dominated and I can't see that doing well on the quick pitches of Aus


I reckon Cook is good enough to be able to adapt his game, so Vaughan at 3, and Cook at 5 might be the way to go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 12:53pm
i thought that back foot was the part of your game that was tested on quick wickets! its easy to hit off the front on those wickets!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 1:04pm
Cook played Murali well on Sunday and looked comfortable against the turning ball. Ian Bell might come back into the equation as well , but he did look suspect against Warne.

   Technique is important ,as is temperament , but backing yourself , self-confidence , is what carries the day. I'll back Cook , he looks rock solid to me.
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Originally posted by Sledger

Michael Vaughan finally pulls on a pair of pads again , this time for Yorkshire against mighty Scotland!!

He did well too , effecting a run out before top scoring with 67 (9*4 1*6 67 balls). He went to that fine clansman Dewald Nel (!!) via a brilliant catch at square leg by England reject , Gavin Hamilton.

Very satisfactory for all England supporters and extrememly worrying for all Antipodeans - Scotland being such a major force in world cricket.

Beware Australia , the lad is back!!

I don't even support England (unless they are playing Aus) but I do want them to do well, and I must say that purely as a batsmen Vaughan is not the player he was 2002/3 or maybe he is but teams have figured him out. His average has continued to fall and if selection was based purely on batting ability he would not or should not make the first 11.

When Pakistan were playing England, honestly I must say that the players which worried me (as a Pakistan supporter) were:

1) Flintoff
2) Pietersen
3) Trescothick

The players who I KNEW would not trouble the scorers were:

1) Vaughan

And so it proved to be the case.

Vaughan is turning into the next Mike Brearley - i.e. picked as captain first and batsmen second.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 2:28pm
Vaughan has underperformed , but how much of that was due to carrying that knee? I won't make excuses for him here , nobody can predict how he'll come back.

One thing is a given - his teammates want him in the side and that'll do for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 2:45pm

Originally posted by Sledger

Vaughan has underperformed , but how much of that was due to carrying that knee? I won't make excuses for him here , nobody can predict how he'll come back.

One thing is a given - his teammates want him in the side and that'll do for me.

Fair point, but who's he going to replace? Colly looks favourite, poor chap. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2006 at 3:01pm
Looks likely that Collingwood will be the scapegoat again mate , pretty tough on the lad huh! Then again , with Vaughan back , England have FOUR openers if Cook keeps his place , is Strauss sleeping well????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2006 at 9:44am
Sheer panic downunder fellas , the word is out that the Barmy Army have a scheme whereby 15,000 of them will invade the SCG for the New Year's Test!!

Seeing the CA are releasing barely 4,000 to the proper supporters of the great game , that's quite a significant claim.

Money talks I suppose and nothing changes ,"100 dollars mate?"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2006 at 12:51pm
Ha Ha! Brialliant stuff its heaven for the ashes for me lads hopefully see the WACA test and the to Sydney where my godmother (who I love very much) is getting tickets to the sydney test I will be waving the st george with my countrymen no matter if I'm surrounded by Aussies in leather jackets with handlebar moustaches I will fly the flag
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2006 at 4:36pm

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Ian Bell might come back into the equation as well , but he did look suspect against Warne

If I was england, Ian Bell will never be picked to play against the aussies and pakistan.

Ian Bell and all the english cept KP, struggle against spin. Its not really the turn of the ball that kills um. It that they just can't seem to pick a "wrong un". Remember, belly will have to cope not only against warnie but MacGill who have an undectable "wrong un". Even Lara had hell with it.

Look at bell, all the time warnie dismised him in the ashes was maybe to a variation and not the stock ball.

Other than that comment, I am routing for the pommies still. Lets kick the aussies butt again !! yeah !!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:32am
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Look at bell, all the time warnie dismised him in the ashes was maybe to a variation and not the stock ball.



Not quite right Wiz he was dismissed , caught behind , off an orthodox Warnie leg break. Fair to say , though , that the slider and the top spinner caused him plenty of strife!

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I read at baggygreen that there were 0% of Aussie supporters at the Oval and only about 2-3% at other locations

This is it here: http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/2489 03.html

I think its very unjust, the English are going to feel like they're at home



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