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Topic: The Ashes 2006-7 - England v Australia Posted: 23 March 2006 at 8:32am |
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I was particularly impressed with the way England dismantled a powerful Indian side (in India!!) without their captain, vice-captain & 2 frontline bowlers!!!! This does not bode well for us in the upcoming Ashes series!! By the looks of things, the only thing we've got going for us at the moment is home ground advantage!!
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Sledger
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:10am |
India self-destructed as well mate. Well led by Freddie though and I was particularly pleased for Jimmy Anderson.
He's had a torrid 18 months or so , but proved yet again that he's a wicket taking bowler.
Come November Australia will know they'll have to be at their very best or they'll come up short again.
Bowlers win test matches and England know they can take 20 Aussie wickets. What'll please them even more is the knowledge that they've blooded some youngsters who responded brilliantly.
Who's to say that Cook , Shah , Anderson and Panesar won't have cemented a spot in the side after Sri Lanka nd Pakistan this summer?
Maybe Vaughan won't return and we've seen the start of the golden age of Flintoff!!
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:12am |
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shah isint young hes just expierenced in first-class matches
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:21am |
Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE
shah isint young hes just expierenced in first-class matches |
27 might seem old to you lad , it's prepubescent to me!
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:08am |
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I for one am not convinced Vaughan will be back...and even if he does
overcome the injury I can't see him playing too much longer anyway.
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:09am |
We've never lost an Ashes series since the 80's - England put paid to that. We've never lost a series at home for many years - this record is in serious danger now! England undoubtedly now have the best pace attack in world cricket - and what variety they have too! Harmison - steep bounce; Hoggard - seam & swing; Jones and Anderson - reverse swing; Flintoff - bustling aggression at 140+!!
If England beat us in Aussie, kudos to them mate, they deserve to be no.1 ! But then again, our blokes don't know when they're dead and buried! Should be an intriguing series - Can't wait for Part 2!!
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:37am |
Aussies should have the edge over England, the selectors are just trying a few players out. Hopefully the selectors come to their senses by this Aussie Summer and put Hussey and Bracken into the side.
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 11:18am |
Originally posted by Slider
If England beat us in Aussie, kudos to them mate, they deserve to be
no.1 ! But then again, our blokes don't know when they're dead and
buried! Should be an intriguing series - Can't wait for Part 2!! |
This is spot on. The Aussies are going to be more up for this series
than any in living memory I should imagine and England are going to
look to meet them head on so the opening days play is going to be the
most intense thing
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 2:24pm |
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if england play like they did against india in india without the likes of tres,vaugn,giles and jones then they have every right to be given a chacne to win this year in australia
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 5:15pm |
i think aussies have the edge at the moment, the way i view the last ashes is that england won it mentally, the aussies cracked under the pressure from crowds and finally the english media were behind them!! but i feel that aussies definately had more skill, i.e. without the pressure they should have won (in my mind) whereas in Aus they will have the pressure put on england, and they will still probably be better in most departments, i don't know if this england side will be able to perform under that kind of pressure
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Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:55pm |
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I just have a feeling that England will win the Ashes, but this time I am supporting Australia. Last time I was supporting England. I started supporting Australia especially after their series against South Africa. Even though they lost they came very close to all games and they also made 400. Credit goes to them too. Ofcoasrse I still love South Africa as my second favorite team. Aussies are my third by the way.
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 7:52am |
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Cricket Australia have announced that calling English fans "Pommy B@stards" during the Ashes later this year is acceptable.
Perpetrators will not be evicted from the ground as it's not deemed an insult to compare with racial vilification of the sort used in the Aus/SA series earlier this year.
For balance and fairness , English supporters using the term "Convict" will not be ejected either.
Peter Young , spokesman for CA said ,"In Australia , b@stard is used as a form of endearment"
Makes me recall the famous incident from the Bodyline Series of 1932-33 when Douglas Jardine complained to Bill Woodfull that an Australian player had called him a b@stard.
Woodfull scanned the dressing room and asked his team ,"Which one of you b@stards called this b@stard , a b@stard!!"
A term of endearment fellas huh.....I'll try it this weekend with one of the local prop forwards - should be a good laugh!!
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 7:56am |
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i saw a poll in australia if calling english pommy bastards is racist 70% said yes 30% no i think its wrong to call englidh that if they let aussies call them that then surely the english can call us something
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 8:17am |
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Certain swear words (or so deemed to be in other countries) in Aussie have never really been a problem. Our prime minister does it from time to time! Moderation and choosing the right moment are what counts if you wish to get away with it.
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:14am |
I've no problem with b@stard whatsoever. It's used jokingly by the British as well and when in context can be very funny.
My posting above was light-hearted and not meant to create tension , the Aussies and Poms , in my experience ,have always got along brilliantly.
Now if you want to hear REALLY bad desciptions of the English , then pop up to Glasgow !!
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Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:19am |
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Don't forget the Irish are not too fond of you blokes either, mate!!
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:49pm |
i believe england will retain the ashes this year, they are improving and getting more experienced it seems as each test passes by, they have experience in trescothick, vaughan and giles, they have youth in panesar, shah, cook and the good ol' english boys such as freddie, geraint, pietersen and straussy. With simon jones un-injured he has the potential to rip the australian batting order apart with reverse swing.
Injuries could be the difference between an england victory and an aussie victory. I CANT WAIT!
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Posted: 30 March 2006 at 11:29pm |
reverse swing isn't going to be as much as a factor in Aust. as it was n England. It's a fact that it Aussie pitchs/conditions don't generate it near as much as english pitches/conditions (We aren't allowed mints on the field in aust.  ) .
As for the winner, given that we are on home soil, and look to have a set bowling & batting line-up (except maybe for the no.4 and 6. position) i think Aust. we reclaim the ashes...
and i think i read something about a possible rotational policy between the quicks and the 12th man (seems likely at this stage that MJ Clarke will have the duties)
bring on the Ashes 
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 7:18am |
Originally posted by Clapo
and i think i read something about a possible rotational policy between the quicks and the 12th man (seems likely at this stage that MJ Clarke will have the duties) |
I've just seen in the stop press that England's Tour Party will comprise of 34 players !!!
That's 16 cricketers and a 12th man from everyone of the 18 counties!!
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 7:42am |
Originally posted by Clapo
reverse swing isn't going to be as much as a factor in Aust. as it was n England. It's a fact that it Aussie pitchs/conditions don't generate it near as much as english pitches/conditions (We aren't allowed mints on the field in aust.  ) .
As for the winner, given that we are on home soil, and look to have a set bowling & batting line-up (except maybe for the no.4 and 6. position) i think Aust. we reclaim the ashes...
and i think i read something about a possible rotational policy between the quicks and the 12th man (seems likely at this stage that MJ Clarke will have the duties)
bring on the Ashes 
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Hey buddy!!?? Swing has nothing to do wtih the pitch whether conventional or reverse swing. SWING IS LATERAL MOVEMENT IN THE AIR....
My goodness matey, anyway if The Poms bowl swing so will the Aussies,, that will compensate for it...
God, people are so oblivious.
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 7:47am |
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I'm sure Clapo knows what swing is Mik , what he's saying is it won't be as exaggerated in Oz as in England.
Your outfields are lusher and the ball doesn't scuff up as much. It's also recognised that the kookaburra doesn't "go" like the duke.
Clapo's a good lad , lighten up Mik !
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 8:13am |
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He said, "Australian Pitches"...it does not particularly matter what the pitch does..It is mainly what the ball is doing, dryness in air and how rough the ball can get.
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 9:17am |
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Hardly justifies you launching in and calling him an idiot though does it?
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 3:37am |
I'm so expert on swing so I won't comment 
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The Australian team is also getting much better with experience warnester
Brett Lee is taking a more dominent role, Hussey is getting confortable in the side, Clark looks like he is the No 1 newcomer on the internaional scene, Ponting is scoring runs unlike ever before, adn Hayden will come into the next Ashes in good form
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 4:44am |
All the form players have their averages back up to standard. Gilchrist needs to make a big score to get his average back up to 50. Martyn has also found some form with that 57 against RSA in the second test. Matthew Hayden - 54.25 Ricky Ponting - 58.14 Adam Gilchrist - 49.16 Damien Martyn - 48.04 Michael Hussey - 73.50 Our bowlers seem to be doing well aswell. Bring it on!  I wouldn't be surpised if Pontings average climbed from 58.14 to 60+ during the ashes series.
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 4:46am |
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he would have to score 3 tons and 7 fifties for that maybe
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 7:29am |
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
He said, "Australian Pitches"...it does not particularly matter what the pitch does..It is mainly what the ball is doing, dryness in air and how rough the ball can get. |
geebers.... u need to learn how to read as well... take note i said pitches/conditions... did u not read CONDITIONS mik ???
i know full well that swing is lateral movement.... and you just contradicted yourself... about how rough the ball can get, the pitch has a lot to do with how rough the ball gets....
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 8:50am |
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Aussies are going to be tough to beat at home, it's been a number of years since the Aussies have been on home turf. Should be an intriguing Series, my money is still on the Aussies.
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 10:21am |
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For sure, the Aussies have an unbelievable record at home and would
start the favourites in most people's eyes. That said, I just get the
feeling that if England have all the big guns fit they can pull it off.
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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 2:27pm |
The losing side that went to England was no weak side. So Australia will have to lift their gain. I'm guessing that mos the batsman and bowlers will be out for vengence. We may see Brett Lee coming after Peterson and Hayden after Flintoff.
This summer will be a lot harder for England
I think with all the pressure on the Aussies to win the tour of England was too much for them, but now England have the pressure of retaining the Ashes. Its an awkward situation to be retaining a series on international soil. Its better to get the hard stuff done first
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