| Author |
Share Topic Topic Search Topic Options
|
MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009
Location: India1
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2204
|
Topic: The Ashes 2010/11 in Australia Posted: 07 January 2011 at 12:01pm |
Though that article was pure rotten , I found a fanstastic comment by someone in there
Bryan Pashby of Terrigal. Posted at 6:26 PM Today Sack Ponting, cricket's Ricky Stuart, cranky,angry "littte" man, Clarke & all the bowlers & start again . As a Captain, on a scale of 1 to 10 Steve Waugh was 9, Mark Taylor 8 & the Bourbon & Beefsteak kid, angry Ponting minus 9
|
|
Race to No 1 again ... started!
|
 |
Max Power
Extra Cover
Joined: 19 April 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 645
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 12:46pm |
A brilliant end to a brilliant series. I really enjoyed that! Well played England, thoroughly deserved. Now we've got 7 ODI's to look forward to  Australia have got some real searching to do now, what's not going to make things any easier is not having a test until August! Will we see Ponting again in a test? Only time will tell. It just didn't seem right that he wasn't there at the end to take to the field with the rest of the team.
|
|
There's 2 ways of doing things - the right way, and the MAX POWER way!
BT&OBCC
|
 |
Hammond
3rd Man
Joined: 21 August 2010
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 213
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 1:35pm |
Originally posted by Max Power
A brilliant end to a brilliant series. I really enjoyed that! Well played England, thoroughly deserved.
Now we've got 7 ODI's to look forward to 
Australia have got some real searching to do now, what's not going to make things any easier is not having a test until August! Will we see Ponting again in a test? Only time will tell. It just didn't seem right that he wasn't there at the end to take to the field with the rest of the team.
|
Yep it was kind of like Captain Bligh being on holiday when they Mutinied on the Bounty. Most of my mates have started called the squint eyed midget "Picky Runting" 
|
|
"I never knew what colour the ball was only it's size" Colour blind Bill Ponsford..
|
 |
Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8838
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 3:47pm |
|
Just reading back through the thread has been thoroughly amusing, it would take far too long to dredge up some of the hilariously far off pre-series comments and predictions, but the guilty parties know who they are!
Naturally, one person stood out way beyond everyone else on that score.....
Yes, I almost wish milkman was here right now to give us his thoughts on how it all went. Almost, but not quite. Because I am willing to bet my hat that the prattling moron would STILL be banging on incessantly about how vastly superior Australia are!
|
 |
flipper
Square Leg
Joined: 27 August 2005
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 488
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 4:10pm |
This ones for milkman
A BLOKE walks into a brothel and says, ''I'm a bit kinky, how much for total humiliation?'' ''$60,'' the madam replies. ''Wow, what do I get for that?'' the bloke asks. ''A baggy green cap and an Australia cricket shirt,'' she says.
|
|
Warwickshire County Cricket, Edgbaston Birmingham England. County Champions 2012
|
 |
abubakar52
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 18 January 2006
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1517
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 5:29pm |
|
Was anyone else surprised at how popular that sprinkler dance became?
|
 |
sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4363
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 5:34pm |
Originally posted by kirankri
Originally posted by Clobber
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
what matters more is some of the bigger tournaments/series coming up in the next couple of months. |
Nice try, but England v Australia is the biggest series in Test match cricket, and therefore the biggest thing in world cricket. |
How can a series/tournament bigger without Pakistan/Bangladesh Clobs? You have got it wrong here |
 You guyz are trying to tell me that the Ashes is THE most important series in cricket for neutrals...?
Gayle has said he is too busy partying and doesn't even have time to watch the Ashes! Honestly folks, outside ENG and AUS, The Ashes do not matter much to fans... it is a fact, and we all know it.
Having said that I do not want to say that this accomplishment is any less significant... it is a HUGE win for ENG... but guyz for an outsider it really matters less. That is what my point is.
As for some of the other ENG fans, Darren Gough has said "ENG can beat India every day of the week"... what do you have to say about that??? I'm sure it won't be long before all these ENG fans start supporting AUS very very soon... may be by the next Ashes.
Try to be true to yourself guyz.
|
|
God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
|
 |
MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009
Location: India1
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2204
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 6:28pm |
|
Of all the test series which does not include India , Indians closely follow Ashes the most. In my company, I know that all the cricket followers constantly monitor Aus Vs Eng scorecard.My entire friends group follow it closely, not just now but right from Mark Taylor time.
|
|
Race to No 1 again ... started!
|
 |
Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8838
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:18pm |
|
Darren Gough is an imbecile and nothing he ever says should be listened to
|
 |
abubakar52
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 18 January 2006
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1517
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:32pm |
|
The Ashes is one of the biggest things in world cricket, to any cricket fan. Just look at this thread almost everyone gave their insight on what the outcome would be, we don't see many people predicting for every series.
|
 |
MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009
Location: India1
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2204
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:54pm |
The best part in India is , here we take sides. This time it's like some 20% supported Aussies and 80% English. It's fun, no bitter feeling even if your supporting team loses.
Note: 100% , I am talking about people who follow cricket, please do not misunderstand that I meant 100% people in India follow Ashes.
|
|
Race to No 1 again ... started!
|
 |
flipper
Square Leg
Joined: 27 August 2005
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 488
|
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 8:27pm |
As a mad cricket and England fan, I couldn't begin to understand what its like to have cricket without an ashes series home and away every two years. I have many Indian friends in England and they have told me many times how it really irritates them that there are only two teams that can contest the 'tiny urn' The Ashes means more to England and Australia than anything else in cricket, no other series or world crown comes close to it and never will.
|
|
Warwickshire County Cricket, Edgbaston Birmingham England. County Champions 2012
|
 |
sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4363
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:31am |
Originally posted by Clobber
Darren Gough is an imbecile and nothing he ever says should be listened to |
I had said this for most of the indians who are cheering for ENG Clobs. i'm sure once ENG comes close to or takes the top spot, the same people will start cheering for AUS (in an Ashes series) automatically...
|
|
God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
|
 |
bladescape
Wicket-Keeper
Excellence in the making
Joined: 14 June 2008
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1809
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 5:39am |
Originally posted by Clobber
Darren Gough is an imbecile and nothing he ever says should be listened to
|
Like Merv Hughes, Huh?
|
|
You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not...
|
 |
MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009
Location: India1
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2204
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 6:38am |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
I had said this for most of the indians who are cheering for ENG Clobs. i'm sure once ENG comes close to or takes the top spot, the same people will start cheering for AUS (in an Ashes series) automatically... |
What is the problem if an Indian cheers for Australia.It is just a matter of personal choice. Both Aus and Eng are neutrals for us.I used to support Aussies till 2000, then after Ricky took over somehow I wanted them to lose.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
|
|
Race to No 1 again ... started!
|
 |
MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009
Location: India1
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2204
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 11:57am |
Wow, what fitting background to the site  .
|
|
Race to No 1 again ... started!
|
 |
Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8838
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 1:43pm |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
Originally posted by Clobber
Darren Gough is an imbecile and nothing he ever says should be listened to |
I had said this for most of the indians who are cheering for ENG Clobs. i'm sure once ENG comes close to or takes the top spot, the same people will start cheering for AUS (in an Ashes series) automatically... |
there is a natural inclination to support an underdog in most case - in this instance maybe Australia weren't top dog as such before the series, but they had been so dominant for so long, a lot of neutrals will have enjoyed seeing them taken down a few pegs, and the same would be true if it were any other side who had ruled the world for so long.
|
 |
flipper
Square Leg
Joined: 27 August 2005
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 488
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 6:59pm |
|
Indeed clobber, in this instance maybe Australia weren't top dog. Infact England have won the last three series out of four, so now we know who the real top dogs are in ashes cricket.
|
|
Warwickshire County Cricket, Edgbaston Birmingham England. County Champions 2012
|
 |
spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner
Joined: 21 January 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9453
|
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 7:44pm |
I guess i'll have too much too post here. I for one didn't think that England would win the Ashes so big some months ago. Coming closer to the build up, it then started to appear more and more that Australia won't do as well as I thought (losing to Sri Lanka did it for me). I still thought that England won't win at the Gabba, which happened and I fancied England best chances to be at Sydney and Adelaide because of Swann. Well, Swann was the poorest of the bowlers and Anderson was the best and I thought he would have been the worse (after the morning sessions ofcourse, there is plenty help for swing bowlers in Aussie when it's fresh). Well, for folks out there, Anderson might be the top one but Tremlett impressed me the most. Watch tight bowling with excellent bounce and movement off the seam both ways. Bresnan backed up superbly as well. Steven Finn would have to carry drinks for a while. Broad will have to up his bowling as well if Bresnan keeps on backing up like this.
For Australia, for me, their biggest disappointment was Hilfenhaus, by far. Watson, Hussey, Haddin and Siddle were their only bright spots (well, Johnson at Perth and Harris at Adelaide and Perth). Watson always seem to be in touch but can never carry on. Can't remember someone getting so many starts like he does.
Anyhow, I think Raj nailed Australia right, it's not as though they don't have any class, it's just that they are out of form.
Rapping up, England severly thumped Australia, the great Australian team never even use to beat England this bad and this was in Australia's own backyard as well. I don't know much about Cricket history in terms of best tour win but I wouldn't be surprised if this go down as England's best. 3 innings defeat is remarkable.
Only one poor thing for England on this tour and that is Collingwood poor batting form. That's the only blemish on the record!
Bring on India in England and England in India (although i'm willing to bet my house on how the latter would go he he).
|
|
In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
|
 |
kirankri
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 21 November 2007
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1088
|
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 5:19am |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
 You guyz are trying to tell me that the Ashes is THE most important series in cricket for neutrals...?
|
It is THE most important and prestigoius test series Sam. No doubt about that. Look at the history associated with it.
With todays technology, you could construct a structure bigger than Egyptian Pyramids. So will it have the same significance?
And with respect to the interest here in India, Raj is right. Apart from the series involving India, it is the most widely watched one. I still remember my friends calling me so many times in the last 2 months to dicsuss the proceedings - specially when England was in a position to win the match.
Edited by kirankri - 10 January 2011 at 5:19am
|
 |
Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
Joined: 08 August 2005
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 15694
|
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 5:22am |
Happy New Year folks , hope it was as good for you as it was for me! I'm finally back on SA time after 7 fantastic weeks (well , bar Perth) and it's back to work and the old routine. I've caught up with the last 3 pages of this topic , so will just try and add something a little different. Firstly , winning 3-1 wasn't that much of a surprise , but winning those three by innings's definitely was! No luck involved at all , Australia were blown away. The England attack never took their foot of the Aussie batsmen's throats throughout. The reverse swing was remarkable - the shine on one side against the roughness of the other was amazing - Cook really looked after that ball! Ay no time did the Aussies look threatening with the old ball - England looked likely to get a wicket all the time. Alistair Cook had a dream tour - 766 runs at 127 was surreal and must give him great confidence in the Summer series against India and Sri Lanka. Ian Bell and Jonathan Trott were almost as impressive and the skipper showed flashes of real class. KP had an iffy series with that one fantastic knock - he needs to be more consistent and leave as well as Cook did. Jimmy Anderson was brilliant throughout the tour and troubled every Aussie out there. His control was remarkable and he beat the bat so many times I lost count. If not for Cook's efforts he would have been player of the series. Tremlett and Bresnan really surprised , both with their pace and their wicket taking ability. In fact all the seamers outbowled their Aussie counterparts - pick an attack from both sides and no Aussie would feature. The English fielding and catching was out of the top drawer and they sustained that for all 5 tests and through every session. Even on the last morning they were chasing everything to the fence in attempting to save a run - just brilliant! The energy they showed far exceeded anything I saw at Newlands at any time in the test here - England are the finest fielding/catching side in world cricket today. So hearty congratulations to the lads - all that hard graft has paid off. Andy Flower must be delighted that his ideas and work ethic have paid off so handsomely. What now for Australia? A lot of heartache for some time methinks. Getting 20 wickets will be the hardest to achieve - their attack is ordinary and Johnson's head is still scrambled , even after that Perth effort. Ponting might well be asked to stay on as a batsman and break with tradition , but will it make much difference? I think not , his berst days are behind him and this hammering will live long in his memory. Have they the talent to recover? The youngster did okay at number 3 , but I didn't see something seriously special - just a decent player with a sound defensive technique. Smith is ordinary and his batting is so unorthodox , mixed with so many crossbatted shots that he'll be a walking wicket for any decent seamer unless he addresses it. Hussey saved his career at the Gabba and did really well throughout , but he can't have long left. Haddin also shone at times , but he always gives the bowlers a chance. Watson got starts in every innings and just doesn't go on to a big one - is that a lack of fitness or lack of concentration or a combination of both? Just 3 centuries against 9 showed that the Aussie batsmen aren't good enough - none of the top 4 scored a hundred and that's something I didn't foresee. Average batting and excellent bowling must be the reason. 3-1 - it still feels good and the celebrations won't stop until we've beaten them out of sight in the one dayers and then taken India in the WC final!
|
|
Mental disintegration works for me !!
|
 |
Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8838
|
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 9:32am |
|
I think the state Australian cricket finds itself in was neatly highlighted by the way their media was wetting itself with excitement when a lad made 37 in the last Test.
|
 |
Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
Joined: 08 August 2005
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 15694
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:41am |
|
Exactly Clobs , the lad looked okay , but hardly the next Tendulkar !
|
|
Mental disintegration works for me !!
|
 |
zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006
Location: Pakistan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6202
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 5:52am |
|
He is not even the next Ponting - but just a bit too early to judge him methinks. he is decent enough o be a regular member for sure - but that does not take a lot of talent to be part of the current Aussie setup.
|
 |
Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
Joined: 08 August 2005
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 15694
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 10:52am |
|
That's right zuhair , but the way the Channel 9 commentators carried on you'd think him the next Bradman!
|
|
Mental disintegration works for me !!
|
 |
zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006
Location: Pakistan
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6202
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 1:23pm |
|
Benaud too? I would not be surprised if Nicholas, Tony and Taylor did.
|
 |
spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner
Joined: 21 January 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9453
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:03pm |
Well, I saw highlights of a ton the guy made, me could understand where the hype is coming from. Kid got some class for sure but as per usual, time does tell the men from the boys!
|
|
In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
|
 |
sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007
Location: India
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4363
|
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:48pm |
|
I still haven't seen Khawaja bat...
|
|
God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
|
 |
Hammond
3rd Man
Joined: 21 August 2010
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 213
|
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 2:02am |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
I still haven't seen Khawaja bat... |
He is very balanced at the crease- reminds me somewhat of Graeme Thorpe same sort of shot selection- strong square with the ability to drive well down the ground as well. Very, very good prospect.
|
|
"I never knew what colour the ball was only it's size" Colour blind Bill Ponsford..
|
 |
Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law !
Joined: 08 August 2005
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 15694
|
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 4:57am |
Originally posted by Hammond
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
I still haven't seen Khawaja bat... |
Very, very good prospect. |
That's all he is H , in my years of watching debutants for Australia he comes nowhere near those that said - Ayup , they've found another one ! The likes of - Doug Walters , Greg Chappell ,Steve Waugh, Mark Waugh , David Boon , Matthew Hayden , Michael Slater , Damien Martin , Ricky Ponting - they just looked like test batsmen although Steve Waugh took a little time to really show what he was made of. I think that the so called jump in standard between 1st class and tests might be overdone. Players that struggle to bridge the gap could simply have played against bowlers way below that of test match attacks. That could well be Australia's problem today - the Shield bowling is some way off that of top international test attacks. Go back through those names I've highlighted - just remember who they faced in Shield cricket before they got into the national side. After Lillee , Thompson , McGrath , Gillespie they must've thought test cricket was a doddle !
|
|
Mental disintegration works for me !!
|
 |