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Clobber
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Topic: The Ashes Tour 2009 Posted: 16 September 2009 at 8:57am |
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blimey Sam is really on the warpath - England are nicking the minnows' players AND their uniform colours now!
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 9:52am |
Originally posted by Sledger
Bopara must go and Trott given the last two games , if Wright is fit I'd think of leaving Sidebottom out and retaining Mascharenas. Rashid needs more time , but where are the wickets coming from , we need a Brett Lee !
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That's what I've been saying all along in several posts... ENGLAND NEED STRIKE BOWLERS!! Why the hell is Bresnan playing as a bowler (batting at 10 means he's playing as a bowler)!? Play a bloody specialist new ball bowler. It's not rocket science.
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 9:53am |
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi
I think they are looking smart in these clothes - though I am not a huge fan of teams changing their basic traditional colors. Dont like Aussies in green either. |
I like their away kit as they go back to the canary yellow. It's this nonsense dark green uniforms for home gameswhich are bloody rubbish.
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 12:23pm |
Hmm. Warne gives a contreversial statement....
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 12:42pm |
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I agree. I think in reality Australia was the best side, but the problem was we lost during key moments. If Australia had not fallen during those key moments it could have been 3-0 Australia for all we know. But that's not the case. The boys failed to fire when it was needed. I'm disappointed like Warney, but we can't be too bitter about it, it's done with.
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 2:58pm |
Sam, you can't blame England for picking Morgan, it was Morgan decision to accept it and if anyhow is being traitorous or anything of the sort, that blame must lie with Morgan. I don't find it so though, it's just as anyone migrating from one country to the next to make a living, many West Indians end up in Canada/USA illegally and are living pretty happy at the moment and for some years too.
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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 3:12pm |
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If Ireland had test status, played regular international cricket and paid as much as England than I'm sure he would have stayed. Opportunities are in England for him I guess. Whatever, at least he made the game enjoyable yesterday.
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Posted: 17 September 2009 at 5:29am |
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what I actually meant was that the ECB should not encourage such moves from these players. They should try and field their home grown english players as much as possible.
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Posted: 17 September 2009 at 6:46am |
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They do look to their own first Sam , but when players from the UK and Ireland make themselves available and they're deemed good enough it''d be rather silly not to engage them. The nationalities of UK citizens are often mixed , having English/Welsh/Scottish and Irish ancestry is quite common ! I'm a bit of a hybrid myself - no Scottish blood though !
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Posted: 17 September 2009 at 12:57pm |
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unlucky!
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Posted: 17 September 2009 at 1:16pm |
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Yup. There's also issue if one is from Northern Ireland, as many are eligible to be Irish citizens, while obviously Northern Ireland is part of the UK. It's a bit different over there Sam, there's no official Scottish or Welsh or English citizenship - it's just British. Hell if you were born in Hong Kong before 1997 you're eligible to be a Briton!
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Posted: 17 September 2009 at 1:28pm |
So, another ODI on the cards today and let's see how it will go down. Personal, I'll be happy to see England take a 7-0 drumming for beating up the Winless Windies in the Spring time.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 2:12am |
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Tim Paine is actually a very nice batsman to watch. Very correct and orthodox, strong through the off side and shows pretty good placement. Sometimes he looks to dominate and that means taking risks, I just think he needs to play his natural game. Definitely a good anchor to have at the top and a strike rate of 80 will be ideal , especially if he opens in the CT with Watson who generally scores at a run a ball once he gets going. Fantastic 100 by the little keeper from Tasmania. We don't get a lot of cricketers from Tasmania (our smallest state) but we sure get some talented ones when they come through - Boon, Di Venuto, Ponting, Hilfenhaus and now Paine. He's also a very solid keeper and he's a good back up to Haddin, who's a wonderful ODI cricketer with a great batting record himself. I'd like to see Paine move up the pecking order in tests, since Manou is already 30, while our Vic keeper Matthew Wade is a good prospect for the future at 21 years of age. Some good depth in the keeping ranks which is nice to see and a century against England is no mean feat - Anderson was bowling really nicely and that's his best ODI performance for a little while (got hit for a few boundaries in the end during the powerplay which ruined his figures). I also thought Hopes took his chances yesterday after losing his spot with Punter coming back. Took 3 for and batted superbly in the powerplay with White, who's also had a wonderful series. I think Bopara should count himself lucky for getting a full England contract.
Edited by milkman - 18 September 2009 at 4:27am
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 4:40am |
Yes, Paine played really well yesterday and looks a good prospect. However, AUS no longer have someone like Gilchrist and Hayden at the top who can give them those power starts neither do they have a Symonds who can blast at the end. That is something which may hurt them against tougher opponents like RSA, IND and a few others.
6-0 with one to go then, Has there ever been a 7-0 series whitewash in cricket history? I don't remember any, This could be very embarassing for ENG.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 6:05am |
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I watched just 2 balls of the England innings before switching channels to watch a film I've already seen 4 times. Much better than the cricket though , I'd watched that 5 times already!
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 8:12am |
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I watched the Australian innings and then I switched off the television. Thankfully England didn't disappoint. They played pretty much in the same way that they have been doing the whole series. Their running between the wickets has been the most pathetic of them all.
I don't think they are taking much from here into the Champions Trophy. Onions must be given a game before they go to South Africa.
Paine's knock was a delightful one. It wasn't flashy but mighty effective. It was pleasing to see Hussey get some runs and at a good rate too. White has really come into his own in this series and I hope his good run continues in the CT.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 10:46am |
Originally posted by milkman
I think Bopara should count himself lucky for getting a full England contract.
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Originally posted by sam_ahmed
6-0 with one to go then, Has there ever been a 7-0 series whitewash in cricket history? I don't remember any, This could be very embarassing for ENG. |
nope
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:15pm |
Another shambolic effort by England and it took me to when the 6th wicket fell to eventually switch off the game.
Australia were good but they made an error in my book, as Holding as well pointed out by taking the powerplay to late. All teams with wickets in hand scores plenty runs in the last 5-10 overs so taking the powerplays that late is a waste of time. They should have taken it when the 2nd new ball came, seeing Hussey and Paine were still in and only 2 wickets down.
For England, at least Denly is a bit of a consolation and Strauss got another bad decision. The pitch looked a bit quicker in the night and I think England played really miserably, someone like Gayle would have sent Siddle and Lee all over that park yesterday.
I think Bopara and Shah are probably batting for their spot instead of playing in the teams favour, Bopara usually attacks more than this and so does Shah. Shah's running between the wickets is very terrible and if you see his walk down the pitch when the bowler is gonna release, even that looks wrong.
Morgan looks in good knick, a good steal from Ireland.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:19pm |
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Shah's running is on a par with Douglas Bader's !
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:25pm |
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And who's throw is Ricky Ponting on par with, ah whaler? He's bloody good.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:36pm |
Originally posted by spin wizard
Bopara usually attacks more than this |
Poor bloke can't win. He gets out playing an aggressive shot, everyone uses their 20/20 hindsight to say what a daft shot, he should be building an innings: he gets out trying to build an innings and he should have been getting on with it.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:38pm |
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I stand corrected Clobber about Bopara getting a contract.
Anyway, why isn't Onions getting a game? Sidebottom is looking fairly average, not bowling badly but lacking penetration. England need another strike bowler in the side and if they won't play 3 then they can at least give Onions a go since he is in the CT squad and since the bowlers aren't doing that well anyway. Seems odd to me. Also, Bresnan has looked pretty decent with the bat in the last couple of digs... he can bat at 7 or 8 so they can really play another bowler if they want.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:39pm |
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A hundred on Friday (I've given up on Sunday!) will shut up the critics mate.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:46pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
Poor bloke can't win. He gets out playing an aggressive shot, everyone uses their 20/20 hindsight to say what a daft shot, he should be building an innings: he gets out trying to build an innings and he should have been getting on with it.
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Playing your natural game is the key! Bopara surely looks out of depth trying to build an innings. Well, if he has done both and have failed, he's in some deep trouble!
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:52pm |
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He's under a lot of pressure this kid. I don't think the selectors are doing him favours by continually picking him.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:56pm |
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His head's scrambled , his confidence at rock bottom , but he'll come back.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:57pm |
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He'll come back really strongly or totally lose it. You just hope that he'll be an English Lara and not a Hick.
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Posted: 18 September 2009 at 1:58pm |
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Let's hope so, when he plays shot, they're very good. I don't see that flick off the pads anymore, something is not right with the kid, he's loss confidence indeed.
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Posted: 20 September 2009 at 3:34pm |
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Swann back in the side, as I suggested and he does the damage and obtains his best figures in ODI cricket. Rashid looked a bit out of his depth with the ball in the last few games. Solid performance here from England, the wicket of Ponting turned the game. Watson has been our worst batsman during this ODI series - really disappointing with the bat.
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Posted: 20 September 2009 at 4:12pm |
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England trying to give Australia a chance here, Bopara involved in another run out and then both he and Shah (surely two of the worst runners in the history of the game - there's an idea for an XI) get themselves out cheaply.
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