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NZ_Fast
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Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!Posted: 16 September 2008 at 5:58am |
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I suggest go with what you enjoy the most. I made a switch from leg spin to pace, and while i love bowling pace, i'm really a leg spinner at heart. I don't really regret the change though, i went from being a underrated part timer to opening bowler for my school, and i'm opening bowler/ 1st change now for club.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:00am |
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Dont know if you are a seam bowler or a swing bowler. You can always work on nd build your muscles stronger. I also failed to understand what do you mean when you say you are a very good spin bowler but very inaccurate. These 2 extremes certainly can't be together. I suspect you meant that you can turn the ball but you dont pitch it nicely
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 10:52am |
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i also wanna know whether it is possible for a guy like me to become a good pace bowler. I'm very short.(only 5ft 7inches) and i'm weak as well but i seem to be bowling my pace pretty accurately and quick. I'm actually a good spin bowler but i'm very inaccurate so i was thinking whether i should change. I'm 16 years old by the way but i have quite a lot of stamina which is my only plus point.
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 15 September 2008 at 12:03am |
I'm not hugely accurate because i don't practise it enough, but from 10m i would expect myself to hit a single stump. Up to 30m, i would expect myself to get it in nicely over the top to the keeper. From the outfield, well i am a bit hit and miss from there.....i dont have a very strong throw, so from the boundry im accurate but gets to the keeper after a few bounces
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spin wizard
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Posted: 14 September 2008 at 8:41pm |
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Shanie, them Aussies don't just practice to bat and bowl, they field a lot too so it's no surprise why the likes of Clarke, Symonds etc can throw down the stumps plenty of times.
Practice man!
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 14 September 2008 at 11:26am |
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it amazes me how players like clarke throw the ball onto the stumps at such ease, especially with those stylish back fips etc,
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 14 September 2008 at 11:24am |
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so u change from ur backfoot and transfer your weight to the front foot towards the end. How good is your accuracy by the way?
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 14 September 2008 at 3:03am |
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It's not really about the grip, although the 'fast bowlers grip' is what i use. More important is the throwing technique. You need to get side on to the target, front foot pointing to the target, front arm pointing at the target and just throw, bringing your backfoot through. The very last part of throwing is actually releasing the ball!
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 13 September 2008 at 11:42am |
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how do u guys grip the ball when throwing? I read in aching book that u have to grip the ball with 2 fingers just like a fast bowler. I've done that but my accuracy still hasnt been improving when throwing at the wicket... any suggestions?
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legspinner102
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 12:42pm |
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Ok ,thanks for the advice Spin Wizard , I'll have to try that one out at the nets then.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 6:53pm |
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Play very defensive for a few sessions in the nets and you'll be surprise at how much better you start to time a ball and how quicker you react. Ian Chappell did say to be a good attacking player you must learn to defend first (good technique etc) and he seems dead right about this.
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legspinner102
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 2:53pm |
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Hiya guys its me again
I was just talking to my coach the other day about judging the ball when your batting. He said 'practice makes perfect'. No surprise there then Don't get me wrong practice does make perfect, its a fact but do any of you guys use any techniques or strategies to help you judge the ball better?
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bladescape
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Posted: 14 July 2008 at 6:21am |
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I think you might be right.
But i've found a way out of it myself,I've started hitting it to the side a bit more. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 4:44pm |
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Maybe you're pushing too much, let the ball come on to the bat. Well, if the pitch is slow, hard luck, maybe you'll need to turn the ball to the leg side then.
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bladescape
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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 3:04am |
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I have a problem:
I like to straight drive and the bowlers get annoyed but when I get really set and am mainly searching for the loose ball I will drive and it will just go straight back to the bowlers hands and I am out c.& b. By the way this is against pace against spin I have no problem picking it most of the time and when I hit against spin I always back myself and hit it before it has the chance to spin. In other words I hit it off the bounce. Can anyone help with my problem against pace? |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 2:53am |
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The last point of inswingers post and pull down hard on the ball will do the trick.
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inswinger
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 10:17pm |
as i have said many times before i think it is about 3 or 4 main things that will get you bowling faster
chestdrive - pushing your chest out towards the batsman while your bowling arm is coming up and over
non bowling arm - your must extend and pull it down hard to exelerate your bowling arm, this also is needed with a chestdrive as a chestdrive makes your length slightly fuller and the front arm will get it back to normal
hip drive/snap - you must rotate your hips quite fast through your action and use them to lead your body through its trunk rotation while your bowling arm passes your side and starts getting halfway to your delivery
delaying your bowling arm - this is quite hard and you must do this last, but try to delay your arm during your chest drive jsut before release, this will create and explosion of pace.
these will all take a lot of work and try to look at yourself on video and take a look at alan donalds action as his is basicly perfect biomechanicly
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inswinger
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 10:11pm |
you dont need to have your non bowling arm literally straight or braced, just not really bent, you need to exend and really pull down hard to help your pace, this with a chest-drive (which you probably have as you describe your bowling like javelin throwing) and a hip snap if you can get that it will really halp your pace.
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bladescape
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 12:10pm |
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I bowl at a nice brisk pace and could bowl really fast but not accurate enough with being really fast.
I prefer accuracy over pace. My style for getting pace: I don't actually run in at express but run in at a fair speed and in my bowling stride I use my long arms in a trebuche theory(meaning I use my front arm to fling my back or bowling arm over) Then again I have really long arms and I am almost 6 ft. |
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drandhawa
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Posted: 09 July 2008 at 3:23pm |
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im 6ft 1in and i cant seem to get any real lightning pace on the ball. Please Help!
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:35pm |
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the reason being is because my bowling arm is pulled back easily like a javelin thrower and it helps me to propel it faster.
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:34pm |
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erm ive seen some players not extend their front arm but leave it bent like simon jones ive experimented with this and i found i get more pace like this rather than extending the front arm. Should i continue this method?
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drandhawa
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Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:01am |
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Hi, I'm 17 and I play cricket in Chicago for the MCC. Everybody I've come across says that I should be really fast, I'm 6 ft 1in, but I am really not that fast. I'm actually quite slow for a pacer. I can swing the ball decently but all I need is the pace. Please help!
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inswinger
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Posted: 04 July 2008 at 9:19pm |
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do you hit the seam alot then?
because you probably dont swing it
the wrist snap is good though, try holding the ball normally but with your fingers outstreched rather than wraped on the ball completley
if you know what i mean...that might help you roll the ball off your fingers a bit better
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 04 July 2008 at 9:15pm |
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another thing is, i cock my wrist and then at release i flick it straight, it feels like im bowling with my wrist not by sliding my fingers down the ball
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inswinger
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Posted: 04 July 2008 at 8:17pm |
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try to make sure you are constantly looking at your target on the ground (a good length) make sure you follow through straight down the pitch rather than twisting, and get a high arm in the process (brushing your ear hehe) but still following through outside your left knee (if your right handed)
i cant think our round arm helps you
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 04 July 2008 at 1:09pm |
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yes inswinger i struggle for accuracy
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Posted: 04 July 2008 at 12:44am |
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When the field is spread I am the best at picking the gaps and finding the 1s and 2s. My worst ability is that I cannot hit over the top. When the field comes in and stops me taking the 1s and 2s I cannot hit over the top and the pressure builds and get out.
What can be done about this to help me Hit Over the Top
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inswinger
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Posted: 03 July 2008 at 9:43pm |
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i can imagin your action but i think you must be dropping your head or something
you must struggle with acuracy or find it hard to hit the seam or swing it no?
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 01 July 2008 at 10:48am |
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actually the low arm is natural for me from a front on action. is that unusual because most bowlers have a slingy action from a side on position but i get it from a front on position.
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