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Monty
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Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:42pm |
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yeah probably, never bn a gambler myself an i dont inted to personally |
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The Tyke
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:48pm |
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I used to work in a bookies so I've seen many stupid bets in my time. |
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Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
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MP12
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Posted: 09 October 2007 at 1:18pm |
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I've been known to make a few risky bets at times. I've been known to pick the outsider in horse races. As for cricket, I've won a little sum of money over the years.
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STNOOR
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 8:08pm |
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practice, i am not a good batsman myself but like they say practice makes a man perfect and it holds true here too . If you have the batting equipment(pads etc..) then wear it, make yourself completely guarded and then make somebody bowl at you fast. After few hits, you will start feeling comfortable with pace .I think pace is easier to get used to than spin, well at least for me . Edited by STNOOR - 18 October 2007 at 8:10pm |
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The Future Shoaib Akhter with the difference being that i will be a left hander and reverse swinging like Waqar Younis even in the early overs...hahaa :P.
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 10:02pm |
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im a leggie but i dont get alot of turn but what i do is change my
flight and speed and if the batsmen hits the ball hard but early it
comes flying at me and im too scared to take the catch and bowl chance
as im a crap fielder of my own bowling i just get out of the way on my
follow through cud someone tell me any drills to improve fielding off
your own bowling?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:15am |
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It's as simple as this, if you don't watch the ball come out the bowlers hand, you won't be able to bat to some standard. If you follow it all the way, then is where you'll be the most successful!
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fishcake14
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 8:42pm |
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Maybe you could have your back turned and someone rolled a ball at you and you had to turn round and field it before it reached you. If you waited for them to say 'go' and then turn round. Another thing you could do would be to have your back turned and for the person throwing the ball to shout 'left' or 'right' and you to turn round and catch the ball as it was heading for you - they can end up in your eye if you're not careful!
Catching the ball will only hurt if you're scared of it -it's not got teeth, it won't bite! If you have your hands in the right position for the catch and let the ball give with your hands you won't feel very much at all - trust me!
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Punch
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Posted: 22 October 2007 at 4:45am |
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Shane, I think you are not watching the ball. You are seeing it come out of the bowler's hand, but aren't watching it. Which is why, you dont have enough time to play it. I had that problem too, when I started playing about 5 years ago. And I started trying this, and it worked for me - Focus your eyes on the ball, right from the time, the bowler is beginning his run up. Your attention should be nowhere else, but just the ball, all the way through the bowler's run up, action and eventual release of the ball. You wont be scared anymore after that, as you'll be sighting the ball better. As STNOOR said, facing fast bowling is easier. It's the spinners who are a real challenge. |
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andrewb3363
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Posted: 22 October 2007 at 7:45am |
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Hi i have no problem with picking the line of quickies but can't pick the length especially off bouncers
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Punch
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Posted: 23 October 2007 at 2:58pm |
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My friend, once you figure out the length part, let all of us know :) That is the hardest part - picking the length. Good batsmen, pick the length early. The way I pick the length is (and this takes a lot of practice) - is to see, how long the ball is in the air, before it hit's the pitch. If it is fractionally longer in the air than usual, then I know it's full, so I just go forward to the line, that I've already picked. If it's not in the air that long, I know it's short. The tough ones, are those, that are inbetween. Good batsmen, pick that too. I dont. And this varies from bowler to bowler, and pitch to pitch. Which is why, its key, to play a few balls from a bowler to get the measure of him, before you go for your shots. About bouncers, it depends on what you want to do to a bouncer. Are you intending to avoid it? Or do you intend to hook it? Avoiding it is easy - the moment you see that the ball is pitched short (most likely the bowler's half of the wicket), you know it's a bouncer. I just either duck or sway away. I know my limitation for this shot, and I try not to get adventurous, even when wearing a helmet. But, if you intend to hook it, it's mostly your body position. If you are standing on leg guard, move quickly to middle and off, that will get your body/bat, behind the line of the ball, and just hook it. (Still not easy, if the ball is climbing a lot more quickly that you would want). This shot, requires a very quick eye, and if you dont have it, I wouldn't advise you to play it. There is no shame in acknowledging your limitation to a bowler. Moreover, it's a smart move - you wouldnt be throwing your wicket away, for, if your technique is shaky for the bouncer, you could either get hurt, or get out - outcomes, that dont favor your team. |
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bond21
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Posted: 24 October 2007 at 4:48am |
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a lot of areas arent guarded though, chest for example, and if you get hit in the pads especially the knee area it hurts like hell.
But yea a good spinner is harder to face than mediocre fast bowlers, but I think an A grade quick is much harder to face than an A grade spinner, unless the spinner is exceptional, as our A grade spinner is.
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legspinner102
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 2:09pm |
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Hi guys im 13 and need help to decide if i should quit leg-spin or not. I tried out bowling leg spin in the nets in 2006 and thought it was good. after that everything went downhill. Firstly, i was bowling front-on instead of side-on, secondly I couldn't grasp the variations and finnally, I could'nt get 'em straight!>>>>So i tried out pace. It came out lovely just the action and the aim needed a bit of tweaking but the pace was 'brill' my coach said. What do you guys think?
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Monty
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 4:45pm |
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it sounds like me, i bowled leg spina lot but now i bowl fast adnd sp[in, but mainly fast, bowl what youre comfortable with
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MP12
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 7:13am |
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Which one get you more wickets? Secondly, is there a reason why you can't do both? I can bowl both leg spin and pace and long as you put twice the amount of effort then bowling both would be a good asset for the team.
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legspinner102
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 10:10am |
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yes i can do both but i feel more into the game when i bowl pace as i have to do a bit more running. in leg-spin all i do is bowl and wait for the ball to spin. ill try both at the nets and see which one suits me.ill reply to you then
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MP12
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 10:37am |
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Sounds like you're a pace bowler.
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bayraz
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Posted: 26 October 2007 at 10:58pm |
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hello
im a 18 year old right hand fast bowler..dont know about my speed..but one thing i want to ask about my action..i kinda try to copy brett lee's action..i run fast..and jump high...but when i finish my action..my fingers of my right hand hits my left leg below my knee...and it happens so fast and hard that my fingers sumtimes get hurt.. ! i just wanted to know..if this is a good sign ??or is this sumthing negative??i mean is this helping me to bowl fast?or is this decreasing my pace??please i need advices! |
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Monty
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Posted: 28 October 2007 at 12:44am |
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in that cricket winning fund, did any come from predicting the ashes 05 result by any chance?
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MP12
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Posted: 28 October 2007 at 1:19am |
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I'm not one to admit my loses but I think I broke even after betting on 4 of the 5 matches. I actually won the lions share of that from the 2nd test, with the odds at 1:6 for an English win with one wicket to go. THat may have been the only time I did bet on England though.
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inswinger
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Posted: 01 November 2007 at 9:45pm |
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if you are bowling fast and acuratley its fine
and you are obviously coming through fast so it will be going down fast
to stop the pain. slow your action down and try see where you are going rong. in your full speed action make sure you pull your arm a little more across and down your body rather than just down.
if you are fast and acurate
its all good
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 10 November 2007 at 3:49pm |
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i keep dropping a lot of high catches. Is there
something i'm doing wrong or is the answer just practice? What are the basic steps to take a high catch? |
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Punch
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Posted: 11 November 2007 at 5:53pm |
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Shane,
You have answered your own question. You do need to practice is quite a bit. Though, dont feel too bad about it. High catches are among the most difficult, because, you have to judge it. But you havent said where your difficulty is. Be more specific next time. Are you not able to reach the ball in time (which means, you need to practice your judgement, or do you reach it, and then the ball pops out of your hands). Key points to remember for high catches: 1. Keep your head still, even if you are running a bit, to judge it. If your head is moving a lot, you wont judge it right. 2. Cup both your palms together, and close to your chest, when you get near the ball. 3. The most important of all, and why a lot of people drop high catches - the moment the ball reaches your hands, you need to 'pull' it. If you keep your hand static without moving it down (to pull it), it most likely will pop out of your hands. Hope that helps! |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 November 2007 at 6:12pm |
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Although I'm not that good an overall fielder, I'm very good at high catches. You don't move to catch the ball until you start to judge it. In other words, don't move as soon as it has been hit. You hold your hands in a cup by your throat and when the ball is nearly in, you pull down a bit. Or, you can do the Aussie way where the palm faces the sky and the back of the hand behind the shoulder but I have no experience there so I can't help you with that one.
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fishcake14
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Posted: 11 November 2007 at 7:26pm |
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If you struggle with high catches, then the Aussie way's not a good idea, many a bad high catcher gets facial reconstruction that way.
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Posted: 12 November 2007 at 10:37am |
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i agree with spin wizard...first u have to analyze the catch and then go for it...
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:07pm |
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well punch i don't have too much of a problem with the judgement. The ball just pops out when it reaches my hand. I try moving it as it don't pull my hands down. thanks
for the help punch and rest. |
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inswinger
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Posted: 14 November 2007 at 8:22pm |
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as people have said. yeh pull your hands down and things but make sure your hand are relaxed and not tensed up
it will bounce straight out if they are hard and tense. erlaxed soft hands. let the bll fall into them and then pull your hands down with the ball it should mean less pain for you aswell for a high catch. because they can hurt a hell of a lot |
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Spin Man
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Posted: 22 November 2007 at 11:35am |
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Hi, I'm new to these forums...started playing cricket again recently so I need some tips. I can do(well, "attempt" if you want to put it that way
)any type of bowling with my right arm, be it fast or spin. I can do leggies as well as offies. But in my offbreak bowling, I can't get it to turn the other way like I do googlies in legspin bowling. How exactly would I do that?And, to put it straight, I suck at batting . Still trying to develop that part. Any tips will be much appreciated. |
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The Tyke
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Posted: 22 November 2007 at 11:27pm |
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That would be the Doosra, one of the most difficult deliveries to bowl and the most difficult to bowl legally.
Many people will tell you slightly different techniques to do it but in general terms you need to turn the palm of your hand to face you. Then use your fingers as you normally would to bowl your off spinner. This will get the ball to spin the other way. The difficult parts about this are accuracy and not bending the arm when bowling it.
Like I said this is just in general terms, there are finer points that could be said. Some people like to put alot of top spin on the ball to disguise it and improve the accuracy.
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Spin Man
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Posted: 23 November 2007 at 6:58am |
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Aight, the doosra..I saw Muralitharan bowling it in a Youtube vid. True, I can't get a hold of it @_@. Guess I need loads of practice for that one. Oh well, I'll just do a googly :P.
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