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W.G.
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Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!Posted: 24 April 2007 at 3:27pm |
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When you win the toss - bat.
If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
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Bennos
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Posted: 24 April 2007 at 6:54pm |
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and I am truely grateful :)
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Pat191
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Posted: 30 April 2007 at 9:10pm |
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Hi, im new does anyone know how I could improve my batting, i often find myself getting out to quick bowlers by quick deliveries that swing. I think i might either be playing down the wrong line or getting the bat through 2 late, any help at all will be very nice :) |
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 05 May 2007 at 4:51pm |
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Play the swinging ball quite late and watch it all the way on to your bat.
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DuckMan
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Posted: 07 May 2007 at 12:51am |
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Wicketkeeping problem -
when I move over past the blind spot on legside, I have a tendancy to dive more than I move my feet. I know this is technically c**p but its in case I get hit in the head. Silly I know. Is there any technique behind it? Do I need to watch the bowlers arm more ? Cant where helmets they obstruct my view and upset my game ![]() By the way apologies for starting a new thread on the same thing. didn't realise this was here but cant delete it. Edited by DuckMan - 07 May 2007 at 12:52am |
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 07 May 2007 at 7:53am |
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You need to watch the ball out of the bowlers hand, if you think it is going towards the batsmans body then begin to move down the legside, if it then goes down leg you should be able to pick it up with very little trouble.
Hope this helps
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DuckMan
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Posted: 07 May 2007 at 11:00am |
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Thanks mate! I'll give it a try
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 07 May 2007 at 11:18am |
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I am very bad at batting especially at playing extreme pace as i find the ball to fast to see sometimes.
Also when going on the front foot i find that the weight of my legs is still on the back foot. Please Help! |
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What goes around comes around!
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Smack
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Posted: 09 May 2007 at 4:09pm |
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^ practice without a bat moving forward into a driving position. Make sure that your head is over your front toe and if you need to, raise your backfoot onto your toes. This will show you the correct position, now just apply it in the nets/match.
For extreme pace try a trigger movement, like back and across, watch the ball from the bowlers release.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 11 May 2007 at 4:45pm |
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what do you mean by 'back and across' and should i practice
with or without a bat when moving into the driving position as you mentioned? |
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scuudz
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Posted: 15 May 2007 at 4:24pm |
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'back and across' means....if you take a leg stump guard then you move your backfoot 'back and across' towards the off stump so as to get your head in line with the ball when its on an off stump line.
However, going back and across, I find, is only helpful for playing off the back foot so I am not sure how it will help you if you are having trouble getting on to the front foot.
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strokemaker
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Posted: 21 May 2007 at 10:28pm |
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Hi everyone. I was watching highlights of the famous 2000 Lords test today and I noticed that Walsh and Ambrose, who are two great bowlers bowled at the same pace as the not so great bowlers. The thing that was different about them was that they could make the ball seam an inch or even 2 inches to either side and that is how they took most of their wickets.
So I ask you this question. Is seam the most important skill you need as a fast bowler to take wickets or is swing/Pace more important? And if it was only seaming because of the pitch then why werent the other west indian bowlers doing that? Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm new here. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 21 May 2007 at 11:11pm |
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Seam is very dangerous as the batsman has no idea were the ball is going until it moves off the pitch while swing on the other can be read just before the ball pitches. Accuracy is also a key factor and that's why Ambrose especially was deadly!!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Posted: 22 May 2007 at 12:08am |
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Remember even further back both Lillie And Hadlee both achieved better bowling figures after they reduced they pace and concentrated ao being able to move the ball and bowl a more consistant line.
Mcgrath also has had the same sucess by landing the ball on the same spot over after over and then doing someting like make the ball jag back or away from the batsman
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143no
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Posted: 22 May 2007 at 12:50am |
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Thats why the ahktars and lee's will never be regarded as great bowlers, pace means nothing if you don't move the ball.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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strokemaker
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Posted: 23 May 2007 at 10:53pm |
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yeah i agree but when you get guy like Marshall for example who can make 90 mph and swing it like a bannana you get the great players as opposed to the very good players. Everyone who saw say Marshall was the greatest fast bowler ever so I am going to take their word.
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beasty
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Posted: 29 May 2007 at 5:07pm |
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hi. the ptiches i play on are usually slow and low so i find it hard to pick up the run rate when batting. what sort of things could i do?
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W.G.
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Posted: 29 May 2007 at 5:14pm |
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If the pitch is consistently low, and not a bit hit and miss, I find it best to get forward early - often taking guard a foot or so in front of the crease.
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When you win the toss - bat.
If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
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LiverpoolFC_Fan
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:19am |
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Hi, im new. But i wanted to know, whats a good way to pick out a slower ball if you are batting? And if you are already comited to the shot, what do u do then?
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RightHandBat
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:54am |
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Wait for the ball to come to you.. I like to flick slower balls square of the wicket on the onside if they are on stumps, or just outside off stump.
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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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MP12
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:20am |
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If you are already commited to the shot, then try to put your body into the line of the ball and just hope you are not given lbw!
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DuckMan
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:11pm |
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Just noticed that I am struggling with the left arm pace bowlers as a right handed batter. They are coming across me rather than into me and seem to be edging the ball alot more. Was thinking of changing my guard so I am batting on off stump. What are your thoughts and advice on this?
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The Tyke
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:26pm |
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I wouldn't change your guard to on off stump. Otherwise your leg stump would be exposed and they'll take it out the ground.
Cut down the length so it isn't coming across you any more. Take a big stride down which will make the angle change so it's coming towards you.
Footwork is vital for dealing with bowling that comes across you. Edited by The Tyke - 30 May 2007 at 2:27pm |
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legspinner102
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Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:49pm |
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Hallo people Im getting problems playign my sweeps and on-drives =S
This picture could be helpfull to some people, it certainly helped me!!!
![]() Im a right handed batsmen and can play pretty well. When i tried to play these shots, I couldn't play them early enough becasue of the fast pace bowling.Even though I still couldn't at a medium pacer because wenever I do the on-drive, I can make enough room to get my foot to the pitch of the ball and when I play the sweep, I time the ball well but the bat and ball dont make contact Edited by legspinner102 - 30 May 2007 at 2:50pm |
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 31 May 2007 at 5:40pm |
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hi i'm a total beginner to batting and i need desperate help! I cant seem to use my foot well, i can't seem to
put my foot towards the ball and when i try there is often not much time to do this |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 31 May 2007 at 8:20pm |
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I had that problem when I started to move my feet. Things weren't clicking. These days, I get onto the front foot real nice without even really thinking. You will get accustom after a lot of practice. I have a pretty darn good technique but most of the times, I don't concentrate when the bowler is bowling, I mean like watching the ball all the way. I see it in the air then take my eyes off.
Here's what to do, when training, get someone to bowl medium pace for you so you get enough time and no fear in your mind. That will help you. Tell the person to increase the pace as you get better.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 01 June 2007 at 4:18pm |
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thanks spin should i try moving my foot towards the ball?
What happens if it swings a lot or spin? I'll be putting my foot in the wrong direction then. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:26pm |
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Ofcourse you should try moving to the ball but note that you should only move forward to balls on good length and not short balls unless the pitch is staying low. All batsman get problem with swing and when it's right in the spot, you just can't help but just admiring some great bowling. Swing is readable though as the ball moves in the direction it is going in the air. I am naturally good against inswing because of my technique so it really depends on the technique you've got. For spin, just get to the pitch of the ball and it's dealt with.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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DuckMan
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Posted: 04 June 2007 at 9:11pm |
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Just an update on the left arm bowler problem I had. Moving myself outside my crease works a treat. Thanks for that Tyke! I cracked 10 off an over against the left armer.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:38pm |
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Nice work! I have had my share of problems from them too.
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