Forum Home Forum Home » Let's Talk Cricket » Coaching
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Calendar   Register Register  Login Login

THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 23456 15>
Author
Message
manic111 View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man


Joined: 14 July 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8
Post Options Post Options   Quote manic111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: THE CRICKET CLINIC!!!
    Posted: 07 June 2007 at 1:36pm
Hi, I am an opening batsman who averaged about 44 last season. This season I am averaging a little under 2 from 4 innings. My first dismissal was an unlucky run out for 7, when I felt in really good touch, and since then I have got 3 ducks in a row. The first I went for a horrible, horrible slog and got bowled through the gate, and the second and third I went to drive and was caught at point and cover.

What do you all do when you are down on confidence? I have tried to bat a little more defensively, but our other opening batsman is a very defensive player, so that doesnt really help the team. I dont really know what to do-I am working hard in nets, but my confidence is down and I am no longer getting into line. Any advice would be appreciated.
Back to Top
Smack View Drop Down
3rd Man
3rd Man
Avatar

Joined: 13 March 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 189
Post Options Post Options   Quote Smack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 June 2007 at 1:33am

First of all positive thought, you've got 3 ducks so it cant get much worse, things are bound to get better. Try and remember that a batsmen of your ability should be scoring runs.

Secondly even Tendulkar, Pieterson etc have to play themselves in. You've got to ignore the other batsmen and concentrate on your own game. So a bit more caution at the start of your innings is needed. Whatever the other batsmen is doing, its not gonna help your team to get out for ducks. Actually its better to play 2 or 3 maidens and cash in once your settled.
 
Thirdly check a thread i made on confidence, the boys left a few good tips there.
Back to Top
The Tyke View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1282
Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 June 2007 at 3:41pm
I'd say that the best thing to do is try to just play yourself in. Make sure as you start your innings you aren't playing shots with the bottom hand.
 
Use the top hand and play everything along the ground. The fielders can't catch you out that way and your also making them work by forcing them to make diving stops and picking it up off the ground.
 
You have to play the way you feel is right. If you're an attacking sort of batsman then don't try to play defensive, it just doesn't work for us. Get on the front foot and play shots but like I said before don't loft them up just yet. Wait until you've got the team a platform to work off before trying riskier shots.
 
Confidence is a horrible thing in my opinion. It can create a mental block if you don't have it, so change what you're confident about. Be confident in knowing that you're a good batsman and this dip in form won't last forever.


Edited by The Tyke - 08 June 2007 at 3:44pm
Back to Top
Shane Warnabee View Drop Down
Square Leg
Square Leg
Avatar

Joined: 28 June 2006
Location: United Arab Emirates
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 401
Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2007 at 9:23am
i'm still have trouble with flighting the ball when bowling legspin. I just keep dragging it down. I used
to get a lot of flight before but people said that i flight too much so i decided to reduce my flight amd now
i can't flight it any more-sad story
What goes around comes around!
Back to Top
Pietersen Fan View Drop Down
First Slip
First Slip
Avatar

Joined: 11 August 2006
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 924
Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2007 at 5:56pm
prehaps your going through your action too quick
check out the ultimate spinners guide -   spinny.co.nr
Back to Top
Shane Warnabee View Drop Down
Square Leg
Square Leg
Avatar

Joined: 28 June 2006
Location: United Arab Emirates
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 401
Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2007 at 8:17am
what do u mean by that? Is it that i'm swinging my arm too quickly? So uwhat do u suggest i do? And if i swing
my arm less i'll get even slower than i already am.
What goes around comes around!
Back to Top
The Tyke View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1282
Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2007 at 7:00pm

What I think he's saying is that you have altered your action to flight the ball less, by releasing the ball lower. So now, when you go through your bowling action you are naturally releasing the ball lower to give less flight.

What you need to do is to slow your action down and practice releasing the ball higher. Then once you're used to it then you can speed up your action again.

Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
Back to Top
Shane Warnabee View Drop Down
Square Leg
Square Leg
Avatar

Joined: 28 June 2006
Location: United Arab Emirates
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 401
Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:25am
k thanks tyke i understand now!
What goes around comes around!
Back to Top
spin wizard View Drop Down
Opening Bowler
Opening Bowler
Avatar
The world’s next great spinner

Joined: 21 January 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9453
Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2007 at 2:47pm
Yep, I was going to say the samething tyke said. Yep, I guess you are bowling too slow. Your run up could be a factor too. When you pass the umpire, you need to rev up your run up and jump into the crease. Not a big jump though! Remember the basics, stay side on, bowl round arm, spin the ball up in the air and don't bowl it too fast.
 
I played a 20-20 match sunday and had the same problem, I wasn't going through my run up good. I was going to slow at the start but at the end I found it back and landed them more on target with good flight!
In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
Back to Top
revolutions View Drop Down
Short Leg
Short Leg
Avatar

Joined: 23 February 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 58
Post Options Post Options   Quote revolutions Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2007 at 8:40pm
 My batting has improved I can now play decently of front and back foot. Though I have a couple of problems, when I drive the ball off front or back foot I am not timing the ball very well I am hitting the ball early and as a consequence it is not staying on the ground What is the best way to improve my timing. Don't just say hit it later. 
Back to Top
The Tyke View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1282
Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2007 at 8:49pm
Work with a medium pacer and ask them to bowl on a good driving length. And then practice as much as you can. Timing of the ball is something that becomes better with practice. Then, once you've started timing it better get a faster bowler and repeat.
 
Oh, and hit it later.LOL
Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
Back to Top
scuudz View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 12 March 2007
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1754
Post Options Post Options   Quote scuudz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:10am
I've just started playing competitive cricket after a long break (5-6 years).  I noticed that every time I play a shot even if its a defensive stroke, then the handle hurts the outside of the base of my index finger of my bottom hand.  
 
This happens right when the bat makes contact with the ball.  Im not sure if my grip has mutated into something unconventional or if the gloves I am using arent up to the mark or I am hesitating when going for ball.
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
Back to Top
143no View Drop Down
Opener
Opener
Avatar
Final warning for running on the pitch

Joined: 23 October 2006
Location: Australia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2516
Post Options Post Options   Quote 143no Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:31am
You are possibly gripping the bat too hard, other than that it maybe just a thing of using muscles you have not used in a while.
Monkey see, Monkey do.
Back to Top
armbowler View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man


Joined: 15 June 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12
Post Options Post Options   Quote armbowler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:36am
Hi guys
 
I have been told by people that i am over stretching at the crease and my back is bending backwards before delivery which slows down my arm speed and flow in my action.
 
Has anyone got any suggestions on preventing this problem???
 
Thanks
 
Mk
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Back to Top
scuudz View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 12 March 2007
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1754
Post Options Post Options   Quote scuudz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:11am
Thanks for the advice 143.  That might be the case.  I feel a little strange now when I play the stroke though, like for example when I play a forward defence the thumb on my bottom hand points down.  Is this normal?  I cant remember it happening it when I played in the past although it may be that I just didn't notice it then.
Back to Top
Shane Warnabee View Drop Down
Square Leg
Square Leg
Avatar

Joined: 28 June 2006
Location: United Arab Emirates
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 401
Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2007 at 7:17am
i had a similar problem with yours tyke but mine was when bowling i found that the base of my thumb started getting scratched after releasing the ball. But it somehow went after if practice bowling more.
What goes around comes around!
Back to Top
gilchurch View Drop Down
Short Leg
Short Leg
Avatar

Joined: 19 June 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 59
Post Options Post Options   Quote gilchurch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2007 at 1:08pm
hi i'm gilchurch i'm an allrounder and i play cricket in qland and i was our clubs best batsman this season and i scored 5 hundreds and 10 fifties so i hope i can help you. if you want to hit a six against pace i suggest not to try and smash the ball as hard as you can and against spin you have to go harder because their isn't as much pace to use
tonk it for 6
Back to Top
strokemaker View Drop Down
Square Leg
Square Leg
Avatar
Like a panther

Joined: 21 May 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 295
Post Options Post Options   Quote strokemaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2007 at 11:48pm
well thats a nice little boasting session there gilchurch but with all due respect, your advice is atrocius. Saying you will hit sixes by not smashing the ball is extremely vague and smashing it against spinners is just as vague. What if it is full of a length, what if it is short.

Plus, did anyone actually ask how to hit a 6? No, so there was no need for that post.
Back to Top
Dunc2610 View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man


Joined: 08 June 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14
Post Options Post Options   Quote Dunc2610 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 July 2007 at 4:48pm
As a batsman (im more of a bowler) i struggle to get myself playing on the off side, instead playing across the line to leg, and consequently getting bowled off stump or caught mid wicket trying to work the ball to leg.

Are there any methods/coaching techniques i can use to get myself playing to the off side correctly, its frustrating to me as i know i've got ability its just getting out of the leg side habit i can't do!!

Cheers in advance.
Duncan


Edited by Dunc2610 - 02 July 2007 at 4:49pm
Back to Top
armbowler View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man


Joined: 15 June 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12
Post Options Post Options   Quote armbowler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2007 at 10:55pm

You may be angling the bat in your stance. By this i mean your bat may be closed so as you play shots you play with a closed face.

Secondly, remember to keep your head straight and stamd nice and tall to avoid falling over towards the offside which can lead to cross bat shots towards leg.
 
Hope this helps
 
mk
Back to Top
Smack View Drop Down
3rd Man
3rd Man
Avatar

Joined: 13 March 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 189
Post Options Post Options   Quote Smack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 July 2007 at 2:30am
If your dragging the ball to leg it means your bottom hand is coming too much into your shots.
 
Its a common problem, you need to make a conscious effort to grip the bat with your bottom hand softly and instead let your top hand control the shot.
Back to Top
Goughy View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man


Joined: 18 June 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7
Post Options Post Options   Quote Goughy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2007 at 12:52am
Originally posted by peninsula

smile.gif

Hi,

ive been a cricketer for about 8 years now, and i have recently been seeing great results batting at number 4 in the preliminary grades, and have now reached the premiers.

My first innings was an edgy 26, which is where i have found a few more areas to work on in order to accomodate for the increased pace, and increased skill from the bowlers.

The problem im facing is the pace. What can i do to increase my reaction time, or the time at which i pick the ball up from the bowler. I especially have problems with the short ball, but the full ball i can easily handle.

I think i was facing a bowler whos known to be in the 135-140 range, so what can i do in order to get my eye to pick up the ball?

Thanks for your time
 
Players dont just use trigger movements to get them balanced at the time of delivery, but to partially complete some of their footwork before the ball has been bowled.
 
Against genuine quicks there isn't often (depending on technique) enough time to do everything you want before the ball arrives.
 
If you get back and across as part of a trigger movement (as many players do) then you free up more time before the ball arrives.
 
Trigger movements give batsmen more time to play the quicks.
Back to Top
slogger07 View Drop Down
Test Debutant
Test Debutant
Avatar

Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 23
Post Options Post Options   Quote slogger07 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2007 at 7:35pm
any tips on how to get my timing right ?
Back to Top
NZ_Fast View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 21 August 2006
Location: New Zealand
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1928
Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2007 at 5:39am
Keep your eyes on the ball? Their are heaps of things that could be done...but we dont know if your early on your shots, late, or just a whisker off really timing the shot.
Back to Top
Blitz View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man
Avatar

Joined: 09 May 2007
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17
Post Options Post Options   Quote Blitz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2007 at 4:32pm
I have a Problem with donkey bowlers ( spin bowlers who give the ball lots of flight then lands at your feet.) I'm an opener so I need to score runs .how can i score off them and not go out?
Back to Top
spin wizard View Drop Down
Opening Bowler
Opening Bowler
Avatar
The world’s next great spinner

Joined: 21 January 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9453
Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2007 at 5:08pm
One tactic to use against spinners who flight it a lot is to advance down the track immediately and then you can either hit it over the top or play some sort of wristy shot! Remember, don't come down until you see it is flighted a lot!
In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
Back to Top
The Tyke View Drop Down
Wicket-Keeper
Wicket-Keeper
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: England
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1282
Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2007 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by Blitz

I have a Problem with donkey bowlers ( spin bowlers who give the ball lots of flight then lands at your feet.) I'm an opener so I need to score runs .how can i score off them and not go out?
 
I agree with what spin wizard said. Once it's flighted come down the pitch a bit and belt it.
Once you've done this a couple of times move your feet slightly but noticably so they think you'll do it again. They'll bowl shorter to try and catch you out so you have got them off your feet and can play more fluent shots such as drives, pulls and cuts.
That should get the pressure on them rather than on you.
 
How are you getting out by them?
Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
Back to Top
fishcake14 View Drop Down
Opener
Opener
Avatar

Joined: 11 May 2006
Location: Scotland
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2173
Post Options Post Options   Quote fishcake14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2007 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by The Tyke

[
 
How are you getting out by them?
 
Probably bowled if it's landing at his feet, or LBW. I guess LOL

Back to Top
Blitz View Drop Down
12th Man
12th Man
Avatar

Joined: 09 May 2007
Location: South Africa
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17
Post Options Post Options   Quote Blitz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2007 at 6:32pm
Yea I try and slog it from my feet  but  I get bowld or lbw but sometimes I score so...  I will try advancing down the pitch use a nice wrist shot
Back to Top
spin wizard View Drop Down
Opening Bowler
Opening Bowler
Avatar
The world’s next great spinner

Joined: 21 January 2006
Location: Saint Vincent
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9453
Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2007 at 6:47pm

I am a novice at batting but I sweep balls like those but again, only novices do things like that!

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 23456 15>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.71
Copyright ©2001-2011 Web Wiz

This page was generated in 0.875 seconds.