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    Posted: 13 July 2007 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by Blitz

I will try advancing down the pitch use a nice wrist shot
 
Yeah, good plan Remember there's no obligation to hit the ball in the air when you advance, sometimes flicking/driving the ball into a gap will be far more effective than a mistimed slog.
 
Basically, if the field is in, go aerial. If the field is spread or on the boundary, place it into the gap. Big%20smile

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 July 2007 at 9:38pm
also remember theres nothing wrong with not playing an attacking shot when you get down the wicket if the balls not there to be hit, you can always just block it if its not the right ball to slog
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Ahh... sounds advice here from master batsmen! LOL

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sorry fishcake, oh yeh about that 43 you scored in a match, did u dread that, or was it the amount of runs you went for in one bowling over :P

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LOL. It was 44 actually, and it really did happen, which is more amzing than me getting hit for 44 off an over!! LOL

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I hear coaches always telling youngsters not to play across the line - they drill it into kids like a taboo and it becomes a cardinal sin to play across the line.

Now thats ok but when kids grow up and play the adult game against good bowlers who bowl to the field it become difficult to get the ball into gaps and scroe runs. It is then that you wish you could play across the line and score runs against the set field.

I feel that kids should not be told to stop playing across the line but to help them perfect the art. Azarauddin of India was a master of playing across the line.

What do you think?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:31am
I think that playing across the line of the ball can be very effective and is needed for the adult game.
 
What we need to do is to teach kids to play across the line properly. This would involve improving their timing which would make them a better batsman.
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I agree with Akkers 1000%!! I'm not the best of batsman but I do get a lot of runs by flicking balls on my stump through the legside were there aren't much fielders. Anyways, there was a smart side that put 5 guys on the leg side and I was a bit useless!! Dead
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Just wondering does the bowling speed increases with age and if so, when does it stops ?. I am just a few months short from being 19 and i think i can bowl at good speed. Will the speed increase in coming years ? Because right now, i don't think its anywhere near 80mph LOL.



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I am having problems with playing spin, I just can't guess what the next ball will be. And wait for the ball to pitch and spin but then its too late for me to take the correct stance and shot.

Also i am having problem with my feet movement, i can't decide to go back foot or front foot because i can't guess if the bowler will be pitching short or full ?. How do i improve this ?.

Any tips ? Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Leggers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2007 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by STNOOR

I am having problems with playing spin, I just can't guess what the next ball will be. And wait for the ball to pitch and spin but then its too late for me to take the correct stance and shot. Also i am having problem with my feet movement, i can't decide to go back foot or front foot because i can't guess if the bowler will be pitching short or full ?. How do i improve this ?.Any tips ? Smile


try to watch the bowlers hands and fingers as they release the ball. also watch the seam when the ball is in flight, it is extremely difficult though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Tyke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2007 at 9:20pm
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Also i am having problem with my feet movement, i can't decide to go back foot or front foot because i can't guess if the bowler will be pitching short or full ?. How do i improve this ?.Any tips ? Smile
 
As they bowl it, take a step forward (a trigger movement). That way you're already on the front foot if it's full or can step back if it's short.
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Speed can increase with age as the muscles for example of a 17 year old are not as developed as the muscles of a 23 year old. However if your a medium pacer then a couple years are not going to make you into an extreme pace bowler, unless you modify your action.
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Hi guys i am new to this site but i have read alot of the posts here and they are very helpful so i was hoping you could all give me some advice.
 
I am 16 i play for my 3rds team which i have just joined its my 1st cricket team i only ever played with mates on weekends but i am the fastest bowler on my team but after 12 games i have only taken 2 wickets and conceecded a lot of runs my, my probles is that i bowl short more often than not i have a long run-up which keeps me pretty steady i lift my left arm up and keep my head staright but i still seem to be dragging the ball down any advice would be grate thanks guys.
 
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Originally posted by STNOOR

I am having problems with playing spin, I just can't guess what the next ball will be. And wait for the ball to pitch and spin but then its too late for me to take the correct stance and shot.

Also i am having problem with my feet movement, i can't decide to go back foot or front foot because i can't guess if the bowler will be pitching short or full ?. How do i improve this ?.

Any tips ? Smile
 
Well...lad..You dont seem to folllow the pakistani tradition of being good players of spin bowling!!
 
Now..it depends...Watch the release closely and watch the ball spinning in the air..it will tell u exactly what it is going to do once it pitches (if it does)
 
Second thing....play with your bat as much as you can..Dont hide your bat behind your pads...or else you wuill be LBW!!
 
Try let the ball not pitch!!! Move ur front foot towards th ball..and more often than not not try play on the half volley!!!
 
Move your back foot alongwith the front foot...move back and across...never let your back foot stuck on the ground!! If the ball is pitched short..and you have comitted yourself on the front foot...then move your back foot to adjust
 
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Originally posted by Smack

Speed can increase with age as the muscles for example of a 17 year old are not as developed as the muscles of a 23 year old. However if your a medium pacer then a couple years are not going to make you into an extreme pace bowler, unless you modify your action.


Got it. So that means if i develop my muscles through exercise (push up etc.) my speed can increase ?. My action is like Shoaib Akhter with just a little difference. I am too skinny so that might be the reason of my medium speed ?.


Regarding my second problem of playing spin, i can summarize from the solutions posted that i should keep moving while at crease and not stand still ?. and watch the bowler hands as he release the ball. Thanks for the tips, i will give em a try and see if i can hang on the crease for long Big%20smile.
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evening chaps
 
just discovered theis forum
 
have taken up the gme after a long break (12 years)
 
i bowl fastish medium left arm swing (quite a lot of swing)
 
my question is about my action, front on or side on, is there a received wisdom about which type of action is better for a particular body type?
 
 i am 6'1" and quite heavily built (15st +) with big shoulders and suspect that i may better off bowling more front on (was always told to bowl side on as a kid "look over your arm"etc)
 
what prompted the question was a recent injury (hamstring) that prevented me from using my normal action and caused me to bowl front on, it seemed to work but when the injury healed and i went back to normal
 
i have also noticed that sods law is applying to my deliveries, when i bowl at the stumps it generally swings to the legside (of a RHbat) and when i angle it accross more it goes straight on, i cant seem to find that happy medium
 
any ideas gratefully received
 
 
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If you're front on action works, then that's what's right for you. Don't bother changing anything if it works for you! Big%20smile
 
As for your bowling, a lot of let arm seamers can cause problems purely because of their angle across the RHB, so I wouldn't say that was too bad a problem. If the ball is swinging back into them a lot, you could try coming round the wicket ; that way you'd get more swing even if you started it outside the off stump.
 
Hope that helps. Big%20smile


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If anyone ever come to me for advice of which action to use, I'll always say front on. I just find it real damn comfortable to bowl with! I'll make on exception for spinners though. Side on is definitely the way to go.

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Originally posted by legsidewide

 i am 6'1" and quite heavily built (15st +) with big shoulders and suspect that i may better off bowling more front on (was always told to bowl side on as a kid "look over your arm"etc)
For a biggish man like yourself i'd say front on is likely to be more productive. Dont ask why but front on really seems to work for big men.
 
Side on is technically the best way to go but its more suited to medium/small built men.
 
I'd say get in the nets and see if you feel comfortable bowling front on and see what kind of results it gives you.
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I've become a technically correct type of player, meaning that I've started to become a strokemaker rather then the old hit out or get out player. It's an improvement but I've been told that my strike rate has decreased. I've tried to play some unorthodox, irregular shots but get caught out on the boundary line. Should I stick with what I have now or should I try and find a way to find a balance (tips).     
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2007 at 11:50am

since when did having a low strike rate make you a bad player?

if your getting out less often, you will definalty get higer scores in the long run.

having a low strike rate but being dependable can be a good asset for a team, for example when looking to rebuild an inning, or when supporting somebody else

and if needs be you can switch to more unorthadox shots when you need to, like when your chasing alot of runs, or just need to get more runs quickly

 

so i say stick to your good tequnique, try and build on it in nets, and use your unorthadox shots when its the right time to

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Depends on the type of cricket he is playing, if it's anything under 40 over stuff, taking up lots strike can cause problems, especially if he is leaving balls that should be scored off, singles are the answer, don't soak up dots, you can still achieve a very good strike rate without being a slogger.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shane Warnabee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2007 at 2:23pm
how do i play extreme pace? What trigger movement should i use,
should i move back and across?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2007 at 10:41pm

A typical one is to move across with backfoot first then forward across with the front foot and then continue from there depending on the length.

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If a ball has pitched outside off stump , you CAN hook it! Try it in the nets and roll your wrists - just hope your teammates aren't too quick for you!


Laxman is a master at scoring on the legside off bowls which are outside the off stump!
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I naturally inswing the ball as a right handed bowler to the right handed batsman, but i need an outswinger to get more wickets and so people cant get used to my inswing and smack me everywhere even with slower ball.

ive tried grip. a more side on action than i already have and folowing throung under my armpit
but it just doesnt swing out. even on the best of swinging days

can anyone help me?


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Originally posted by inswinger

I naturally inswing the ball as a right handed bowler to the right handed batsman, but i need an outswinger to get more wickets and so people cant get used to my inswing and smack me everywhere even with slower ball.

ive tried grip. a more side on action than i already have and folowing throung under my armpit
but it just doesnt swing out. even on the best of swinging days

can anyone help me?


well being a left hander, its easy for me to bowl inswinger than outswinger, it feels so natural and i think bowling outswinger for a right hander is easy than an inswinger. But you are entirely opposite :D.

Anyway what i did to learn bowling outswing was, i position the ball for bowling outswinger and without going through my bowling action, just release the ball like chucking it. Then when bowling with my bowling action, i tried to remember how i did it while chucking and kept feeling my hands till i release the ball. It worked for me.

I think somebody else will guide you better than me, cause i have less experience of the game than most of members here Smile
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 I am 14 years old 5' 11 and have decided to bowl seam next season. Despite bowling a reasonable pace i usaully can't carry to a keeper standing back and despite my above average height cannot generate as much bounce as other bowlers, who are a similar build to me. Any tips?

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