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Kenya. They were a class above there fellow minnows in the 2003 WC and i think if they perform in WC 07 they deserve test status.
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Either Kenya or maybe Canada.
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the next test nation will be Italy.

Ok it mite not be the next but in the next few years they will emerge and will become world number 1 with me as the captain.
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WELL I WILL ALWAYS VOTE FOR IRELAND AS NEXT TEST PLAYING NATION.....
IF THEY GET STATUS THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN BANGLADESH AND ZIMBABWE.....AS MANY OF THEIR PLAYER PLAYS IN COUNTY CRICKET.....
 
KENYA SHOULD PLAY MORE ONE DAYS .IF THEY ARE AWARDED TEST STATUS THEY WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO BEAT BANGLADESH AND ZIM AND SOMETIMES INDIA
 
SO GUYS IRISH ON THEIR WAY TILL 2009--JUNE A NEW TEST NATION ARRIVES
 
 
AND GUYS DON'T COUNT AUSTRALIA THEY CAN EVEN DEFEAT GOD's XI THAT TOO INNGS DEFEAT.....IN TWO AND HALF DAYS
SO RANKINGS ALWAYS START FROM No.2 IN CRICKET
 
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Mihir , don't post in capitals !
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Sorry Dear......
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 No problem , but less of " the dear" , my missus won't like it!
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Originally posted by mihir_ozz

 
AND GUYS DON'T COUNT AUSTRALIA THEY CAN EVEN DEFEAT GOD's XI THAT TOO INNGS DEFEAT.....IN TWO AND HALF DAYS
SO RANKINGS ALWAYS START FROM No.2 IN CRICKET
 


Quote of the century, that was one of the silliest comments I have ever seen. 


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So bangladesh is ready to defeat aussies in Test wow good .........Get up guys ......

No replies on this post ............lets support new nations..

Ireland Defeated Eastern Province......In South Africa......this is good news.


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i think Kenya because they came 2 da semi finals in the last world cup so kenya should get an opportunity
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well kenya do reached to Semi's of world Cup 03...But that is One Day Cricket and in Longer Version ......ICC is have Tourmanent Name "intercontinental Cup" it is 4 day tournament  for Associates ..Last year Ireland Won and This year .......Mostly Ireland and Canada Will be in Final.........

They are good at longer version........and Kenya was deserving test status before bangladesh ....

if kenya would have got it at time and as much games as Bangladesh they would have been a good side till date
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Originally posted by mihir_ozz

They are good at longer version........and Kenya was deserving test status before bangladesh ....

if kenya would have got it at time and as much games as Bangladesh they would have been a good side till date



Thats not right at all, Bangladesh and Kenya got ODI status at the same time in 1996, after that Bangladesh performed vey well in the 1999 World Cup beating Pakistan and Scotland in the group stages, thats how they got test status in 2000. And rightly so as we were the top associate at that time.

Kenya on the other hand did nothing before the 2003 World Cup and so it is very foolish to say they deserved test status more than Bangladesh.
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Hey Rifat........When Kenya and Bangladesh got ODI status in 1996 they played three tri series  ( two with zimbabwe and one with India) in all of them Kenya thrashed Bangladesh and reached finals....even they defeated India In India on tri Series..Bangladesh won only one game
Even when Tri Series was hosted in Bangladesh they got thrashed by Kenya and Zimbabwe.
Just because they Beat Scots & Pak at World Cup 99 they don't deserve test status....
bangadesh did'nt show any good sign is longer version ..may be they can pull crowd to the matches but cannot produce good players..
bangladesh palyed very often againts big sides then too then cannot raise their standard of cricket..whereas kenya played very few matches..and are good fighting side....But as Kenya got less expirenced their Cricket is diminishing
Well Lets see this World Cup how all Minnows perform..and lets wait till Intercontinental cup  Final Canada Vs Soctland/Ireland...If Ireland wins two in a row they deserve Test Status as Their women Cricket team got..
Even Canada has Raised...their standard
 
If We have 12 International Team Playing Test we Can Have Test World

We can have test cricket world cup of 12 teams in-group of four.

For e.g. If Ireland/Canada & Kenya are granted test status (As Most worldcup playing teams).

Assuming we can host WC TEST in 2008 in Australia in Feb-Mar.

Pools .

A -: Australia, Bangladesh, and WestIndies.

B -:  South Africa, India, and Ireland/Canada.

C -:  Sri Lanka, Kenya, and England.

D -:  New Zealand, Pakistan, and Zimbabwe.

 

 

 

Date

Pool

Team1

Team2

Venue

20-Feb-08

24-Feb-08

A

Bangladesh

West Indies

Hobart

20-Feb-08

24-Feb-08

B

India

Ireland/Canada

Sydney

20-Feb-08

24-Feb-08

C

England

Kenya

Brisbane

20-Feb-08

24-Feb-08

D

Pakistan

Zimbabwe

Adelaide

27-Feb-08

02-Mar-08

A

Australia

Bangladesh

Melbourne

27-Feb-08

02-Mar-08

B

South Africa

Ireland/Canada

Hobart

27-Feb-08

02-Mar-08

C

Sri Lanka

Kenya

Sydney

27-Feb-08

02-Mar-08

D

New Zealand

Zimbabwe

Perth

05-Mar-08

09-Mar-08

A

Australia

West Indies

Sydney

05-Mar-08

09-Mar-08

B

South Africa

India

Perth

05-Mar-08

09-Mar-08

C

England

Sri Lanka

Adelaide

05-Mar-08

09-Mar-08

D

Pakistan

New Zealand

Melbourne

 

 

Semi

Finals

 

14-Mar-08

18-Mar-08

SF-1

Winner Of Pool A

Winner Of

Pool D

Perth

14-Mar-08

18-Mar-08

SF-2

Winner Of

Pool B

Winner Of

Pool C

Sydney

 

 

3rd Placing

Final

 

21-Mar-08

25-Mar-08

 

Loser of SF1

Loser Of SF2

Brisbane

 

 

Grand

Final

                                            

     

27-Mar-08

31-Mar-08

 

Winner Of SF1

Winner Of SF2

Melbourne

Hardly a one month Tournament What you say guys.....
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Originally posted by mihir_ozz

Hey Rifat........When Kenya and Bangladesh got ODI status in 1996 they played three tri series  ( two with zimbabwe and one with India) in all of them Kenya thrashed Bangladesh and reached finals....even they defeated India In India on tri Series..Bangladesh won only one game
Even when Tri Series was hosted in Bangladesh they got thrashed by Kenya and Zimbabwe.


Really? You know so much about Bangladesh cricket, show me proof.
Bangladesh defeated Kenya in the 1998 ICC Trophy Final to book a place in the 1999 World Cup. Go and check the 1999 World Cup teams, you will find Bangladesh in there, not Kenya.

Originally posted by mihir_ozz



bangadesh did'nt show any good sign is longer version ..may be they can pull crowd to the matches but cannot produce good players..



No good sign??? What are you talking about?? They scored 400 against India in their first ever test, almost defeated Pakistan in 2003 but lost by only one wicket and drew one test against the West Indies plus add to that the test against Australia where they skittled out Ponting and Co. for 259 and scored 424 hitting Warne and Lee around the park.
History has shown every test playing nation has taken time to win their first ever test, India took 15 years, New Zealand 25 years so I think all this talk about Bangladesh not good enough for test status is rubbish.
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What about Tir Series they played With Kenya What happen there.........

Well they showed goo d performance in 1st test....but  no good form..
When Inida came into Test in 1934 they hardly use to play cricket 1st test that India played was 3 day test........That time it was hard..there use to be hardly any test match played...in 2 years.so it took time to win..
Now with forien coaches and technology developed good playing conditions bangladesh should have delvoped faster.........But they couldn't so Zimbabwe becase of Poitical Reasons and Bnagla Becasue of Repeatedly bad performance  ..can't perfrom ..i'm not telling they should be ripped of test status .but should be limited to One Off test only.and whereas Kenya they were in Cricket World Cup 96,99,03 whereas bangla was in 99,03 and in 03 they lost even to Canada,Kenya...So lot of expirence on theior side playing test since 2000...thats ODI cricket.....
In Longer version consistency is main...Well Even Depleted Zim scares bangladesh.
Even Zim Scored 400+ againts india in 1st test and drew it ...In 03 againts Pak they could not take 1wicket......Aussie test was good but what happed in 2nd test consistency...
Zim had player like Curran,Hungton..Brandes Flower,streak no such names in Bangla side .....hardly anyone knows Musrafae Murtuza strike blower of Bangla...
its hard time...in Bangla cricket ....Develop Infrastructure first class tournaments.....
Has Any bangla player socred 200+ in test againts big sides expect zim
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Originally posted by mihir_ozz

.....hardly anyone knows Musrafae Murtuza strike blower of Bangla...



He has taken more ODI wickets than any other bowler in 2006 (Something which I know no Indian bowler can do) thats a fact.
I don't have the time to argue with your childish comments so enough is enough, look at your own team first before coming here to criticise Bangladesh
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Agarkar back in the late 90's and Pathan in 03 or 04. Most of Mortaza's wickets came against the minnow sides though he is still a good bowler leading the pack of young bowlers from Bangladesh and he can be very explosive with the bat.
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Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

Agarkar back in the late 90's and Pathan in 03 or 04.


Only two times, India has produced very few good fast bowlers, so mihir ozz should look at their own pace bowlers first before coming here to mock the Bangladeshi bowlers


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Sorry Dude i'm not Indian Supporter At All ....Well How many Odi's have Bang played againts big teams in 2006.Only kenya/Zim/Soct and 3againts Aussies in April

So dude don't get frustrated be practical......India on any given day can pull off Victory againts any team..India is not Minnows in Cricket .yes they lack few Instics .but players like dravid,sachin,kumble,ganguly are world class...Even Pakis & lankans are good..

bangla even with such a large Asain Support can't do anything about developing world class cricketers..

Where as Kenya with small amount of african support developed a decent game....

in how many overseas centuries or 10wicket haul record bangla have...

 


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Originally posted by Rifat

Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

Agarkar back in the late 90's and Pathan in 03 or 04.


Only two times, India has produced very few good fast bowlers, so mihir ozz should look at their own pace bowlers first before coming here to mock the Bangladeshi bowlers
 
Im sure Srinath has done it and Agarkar may have twice but i'm not too sure.
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Originally posted by mihir_ozz

India on any given day can pull off Victory againts any team..

And so can Bangladesh


Originally posted by mihir_ozz



in how many overseas centuries or 10wicket haul record bangla have...



Bangladesh has got an ODI hattrick outside sub-continent (against Zimbabwe) three centuries in West Indies, one in Sri lanka, two in Pakistan, one test hattrick against Pakistan (Alok Kapali)
Rafique has taken a 9 wicket haul against Australia in April, Nafees has a test century against Australia, check cricinfo if you want.
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Test status shouldn'r be granted on the back of the odd win at the one day game. All non-test nations need to play more 4 day cricket and against decent opposition. Scotland and Ireland could be allowed to play county cricket , that would help their cause immeasurably. Distance and cost is against  Kenya doing the same in SA and I don't know where they can get enough competition.
    Maybe a round robin of all the non-test playing nations in the longer version of the game is the answer. The top two progress into a final and they play three tests. The winner then is in pole position to achieve test status and if their infrastructure is adequate , they should be admitted into the big boys league.
     That way we'll find out the strongest side of the rest , but they are still likely to be a country mile off competing with the elite.


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I say let them compete against the test nations' "A" side! Most of the test nations' "A" side comprises of players who have played International but can't fit into their respective side so it will be good practice for teams who want to become the next test nation.
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No problem with that SW , but it needs money to function properly. The ICC have to drive it , the non-test nations have no dosh.
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Yeah, money is what drives everything today and it will need loads to ensure that the non test nations get developed into test nations. I'm pretty sure the ICC have a lot of cash cause look at the amount of cash they gave Aussie when the defeated the World xi and they also contributed to some of the side to prepare for the WC.
 
The ICC can use the option of anytime someone does something wrong, penalize them hard with cash and contribute the money to the development of cricket.
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Test status shouldn'r be granted on the back of the odd win at the one day game. All non-test nations need to play more 4 day cricket and against decent opposition. Scotland and Ireland could be allowed to play county cricket , that would help their cause immeasurably. Distance and cost is against  Kenya doing the same in SA and I don't know where they can get enough competition.
    Maybe a round robin of all the non-test playing nations in the longer version of the game is the answer. The top two progress into a final and they play three tests. The winner then is in pole position to achieve test status and if their infrastructure is adequate , they should be admitted into the big boys league.
     That way we'll find out the strongest side of the rest , but they are still likely to be a country mile off competing with the elite.
 
Should then be allowed to compete for test status against lowest nation with test status in 3 match series, if they win, automatic entry into test elite and ICC to discuss if loser to lose test status - obviously if they lose then back to status quo.
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Yes Scotts have good chance .But Irish are'nt too behind...Lets see if Irish defeat UAE and overcome Soctland by Point then they will play Canada in Intercontinental Cup Final.....
If Ireland Wins its this time also they deserve Test Status.Not like earlier teams looking at their ODi performances giving them test status and teams like Bangladesh Compete in Indian Domestic Duleep Throphy and Get thrashed in all matches like Semi-Club Cricketers.
 
So this Intercontinental is good IDea Even Zimbabwe and Bangladesh Must be send to play that tournament and if they show performance in that series then allow them to get back to test staus..
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Really and truly, I don't see no affiliate or iffiliate side that deserves test status at the moment. They are all behind in terms of playing long cricket so I don't want to see another test nation for some years to come.
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Well there should be ripping of test status of bottom teams and finalist of intercontinenal should be given a chance...to prove.lof of irish,socttish are playing for england in test then like Hamilton brown joyce
Zimbabwe is politically instable nation so there  is still no return of flowers,steak,ervine,taibu...so test their test status should not be restored,
and if Asian nations like India,Pakistan,Sri Lanka want their player to acheive milestones they  can play againts Bangladesh two test and score 200's and take 10wikcets spell..
But nations like england,aus,africa,nzl should stay away from playing with b'desh it devalues the game
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