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    Posted: 15 March 2006 at 7:01pm

I'd be most surprised to see anyone here taken to court for suggesting that player x might be using or not using a particular type of bat.

I shall close this as people annoying other people is not what we're here for.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:29pm

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/image/217199.html

If you look at that link of CRAIG MCMILLAN that looks suspiciously like my fusion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:24pm
i seriously doubt it. but please coorect me if im wrong. by the way what bat do you have JDR??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:21pm
what has jdr played first class cricket????
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:13pm

JDR i think you have said enough, your tone is quite nauseating and offensive, i would hope that the forum administator will put a stop to these topics because it is people like your good self that stir up un-necessary arguments.

 

By the way what is your first class record?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 5:21pm
yer i reckon you probably think that was a influence on me getting a a laver crick! but i am atually being honest in saying i did not know that they made bats for pros until i spoke to them on the phone ordering my bat!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 5:08pm
to jdr, he has told me about players that have used their bats, and given the name, and more or less the time that some of them used the bats, but im sure im not allowed to say anything either, and he asked me not to say it as i think he wants fusion to grow becuase people hear and see its quality, rather than knowing that so and so used their bats!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:41pm

Just read that forum. that is a fair response by the manufacturers.

I think it might happen here as I did tell Kooka in my email which forum had these rumours.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:39pm

I don't believe he has had any test cricketer use his bat.

Just like people ascert that Test cricketers use custom bats and re-sticker them.

My assertion is that no Test cricketer has used a Fusion bat. It usually gets out if they do, just as it did with Bradbury. Until I see proof, I will not give credence to any mumblings by supporters of the custom manufacturers.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:26pm
i dont think bill could say which players have used his bats over the years, if anyone wants to go and read the cricketsupplies.com forum they have been warned by the big manufacturers that legal action may be taken against anyone who said that a player uses bats other than their sponsoring companies, im sure though if you contact him directly, e.g. email or ring he can tell you,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:04pm

Never used either.

All the fusion "supporters" on this forum annoy me. No proof they have had a Test cricketer use one of their bats.

Bradbury - If it is good enough for GOD (S. Waugh) and Punter, then I think it is good enough for you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:58am
in your opinion what makes bradbury so better than fusion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:43am

If you call both companies they can make something for you. Though I am sure both have stock product that they sell with no customisation.

If I had to choose, between those two, I would go for Bradbury.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:40am
yeh thanks for that. Umm, i just  have mixed opinions about both brands thats all and i cant pick between which one. So to make everything clear; the bradbury is a stock shape and cant be changed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:34am

In that case.

Have a think about what type of player you are and select according to that instead of worrying about brand.

I read a good article the other day giving guidelines about weight, pickup, length etc depending on position in batting order and some other stuff. Trying to find a link for you.

If you score most of your runs driving then select a bat with mid to low sweetspot. If you are opening the batting select one with mid to high that you can move quickly.

Not sure what else. I am no expert. I am in the same dilemma about buying a bat.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:26am
JDR, i get what you mean.  But im just saying i want my money to go to something that will serve me well. Also, is the laver heritage grade 2 or grade 1??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:23am

Groovydude - I don't think it really matters at the end of the day unless you are playing cricket as a career.

Personally all these custom bats posts have turned me off them and I know my cricket isn't good enough to make a difference. Before I worry too much about minute details about a bat, i think my technique and shot selection requires my attention.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2006 at 11:14am
so..is everyone saying that  bradbury is better than  fusion??? coz i just dont know who to pick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:43pm

you think wrong bill! also this is about bradbury bats, not every one wil agree with my OpinionS, and if every one did, it would be quite boring, thats why i put ' i think' in my post.

 Anyway back to the topic, i found out tonight that grant flower has or has had his bats made by bradbury, and as one of the players at my club knows him, he is getting one off him as grant did not want it, and the weight of it, 2lb 4oz!!!! no joke, he must like his light bats grant!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 8:33pm
i hve heard that bardbury is better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 7:51pm

 

  Henry,

         me thinks you are a Mischief maker?

 

  Bill

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 2:37pm
i havent used either properly, but i think i would prefer a bradbury because it is a much more solid shape, i don't like concave as much as it does not give a solid feel, i reckon the more solid shapes are atually more powerful, even though they do not look as big as concave bats with high spines.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 11:26am
what is better a bradbury or fusion?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:33am

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:22am
Without wishing to take this further off-topic I just wanted to back up something Bill said earlier. And I will also point out I am neither one of their sponsored players not some starry eyed fanboy.

I was interested in involving the Fusion brand in one of my business interests and subsequently have spoken to Bill and James on a number of occasions - you simply could not come across 2 nicer or more helpful people and what always comes shining through over and above ANYTHING ELSE is their love of, and commitment to the game of cricket as a whole.

Indeed I could tell you of numerous instances where they have helped me out/offered to help where there was precisely NOTHING in it for them beyond helping someone get along in the big wide world of cricket. That is a generosity of spirit that is all too rare in this day and age, and one which should be applauded.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 8:43am
dude...this topic has gone way  out the way. All i wanted to know is if bradbury was a good bat to have. I see that fusion have concave spines, is this good? coz GN, and bradbury dont use concave spines.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 8:07am

 

Hi Sid,

       you have still got some things wrong,but i am not going to responed to any more on this matter,because it will get too personal, and that will do no one any good,just one thing We sponsor David Brents brother Gary Brent of Zimbabwe!

Bill

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 3:03am
Dear Fusion,

Good on you for supporting cricket. You may of note my earlier apology and let me apologise again to you Bill, James and all the Fusion people.

I ain't going to nick pick over each and every one of your postings here mate. Your 65 years have obviously yielded you a better bat maker than you are in command of the english language or a keyboard.

By the way, I love cricket and I like to be a happy customer and it just so happened to be I am one and happy to share the experience to the people that ask - getting back to the original post.

The way I read your original post was that you claimed the shape was yours, my interpretation, before we start hauling in the be-wigged barristers, it was the way I read it and interpretted it.

The words "may have" are a bit ambiguous. "Sorry Hilary it looks like I may have slept with Monica" "Looks like I may have snorted cocaine""Looks like I may have sent the troops to Iraq""It looks like we may have won the game"was this said at the innings break after AUS scored 434 against SA. get my drift???? I am being silly now aren't I?

I am not here to take the p#@s out of you or your company, in fact I knew about your company before I knew about this forum and had a thorough look at your product range and was quite impressed. Good on you.

Using forums as a form of marketing I think is great lets the customer talk to the maker etc however lets not have this forum turn into a commercialised advert centre. Next thing you know there will be pop ups advertising the latest $25,000 bat that is being endrosed by the Duchess of York, David Brent and some forgotten big brother celeb and is available in a gold leafed mahogany box from Harrods with the illegal carbon fibre back and will cure erection problems as well - now I am taking the P1$$

GO ahead Bill answer what you can but choose your words cause others interpret it differently sometimes.

There also seems to be a lot of rumour and uninformed sl*ggin of products in forums as well. hence the original post - mixed ideas about how they are made and are they crap? I was simply clarifying the matter.

However if this forum is the biggest concern of yours, I think you got other battles to fight.

How many other cricket products out there are named FUSION. GRAY Nic FUSION, Charlie French FUSION. I will not insult your 65 years of intelligence by offering a tip to protect your IP/trademarks.

I ain't here to sl*g off your product or blackmail you into sending me 10 of yours bats so I write a positive review or anything (however I will consider it if you send it!), just sharing my thoughts on a product i happen to have -a Bradbury Bat.

I hope you have plenty of happy customers like me that will literally "go into bat" for your product. Apologies if you thought I was sl*gging off your company as it was not my intention to do so.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 March 2006 at 1:44am

 

 Hi Sidman,

                i think it is inappropriate of you to rant on about my comments when you have not read them correctly,can i suggest that you re-read them and tell me where i have said the things that you have so wrongly stated.

What interest should i declare?

Where did i correct myself?

Where did i say that Bradburys "have" copied our shape ?

How is it dangerous for me, when i have not said the the things that you have wrongly stated ?

How i am i trying to get a bigger slice of market,when we are custom batmakers,dont you realise that hand made batmakers can only make so many bats per week,so common sense will tell you we are very limited as to how many bats we can turn out!

If you mean that i am running down other batmakers,by your burning off,i have only had praise for the hand crafted batmakers, and you could do me a favour,contact all the custom bat makers and ask them if they press they bats by hand i,e literally by hand with no electrical motor,we do.

As for the grow up bit,well i am 65 years old and i do not think i am child like yet.

I have taken your remarks to be offensive, you do not know very much about me,if you did you would not have made your un-warranted remarks.

Sidman you know who i am ,who are you?

Can i ask do you do any charity work ? do you give much to good causes ? do you give many bats and equipment to young cricketers of all races and greeds? if the answer is yes then you have my best wishes,because both myself and my son do!

We give more than we take out of this great cricket game,because we are trully cricket lovers,by the way what is your first class record ? i think my son may be one of the only cricket pro making hand made bats,

.As you may well have gathered by now i am rather upset by your inane remarks.I will ask you to consider is the forum the right place to argue about these matters when we should be enjoying harmless banter regarding all cricket matters and perhaps learning from other people.

I opologise to all you good forumers for my post,i will slide into the back ground now and keep quite.

  Bill, and on behalf of James

 

PS please forgive any mistakes i may have made it is rather late.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2006 at 11:06pm
Crick,

Original question was about Bradbury Bats and my reply was about just that. Just recounting my experiences of buying one and chatting to the bat maker himself not fingerring through a glossy catalogue in awe of bat stickers and the players that supposedly use them.

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