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SEHWAG NO.1
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Topic: Irfan PathanPosted: 26 March 2006 at 9:09pm |
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and people tell me ur pretty annoying, but i havent clashed with u so i dunno
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SEHWAG NO.1
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:08pm |
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yes i did thonk he was an allrounder but i have changed my mind he is not consistant being an allronder so i cant give him the tag yet
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:56pm |
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i thought he was an all rounder didn't you and by the way whjat do you think of me
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:50pm |
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i agree that is also true but, all cricketers have pressure to deal with, he cant get caught up with allthe hype, he needs to be a bowler first and a batsman second, i personally think he will never reach the level at which he was at with his bowling,the pace is non existing
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:32am |
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The thing is that they are asking too much of Pathan! They want him to be an outstanding all-rounder! They want him to score runs and take wickets! Too much pressure, and he'll collapse.
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SEHWAG NO.1
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 7:44pm |
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i agree zaheer used to be as fast as 90mph but just lost his stuff, i hope pathan will not suffer the same fate
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 4:54pm |
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He is going away like Zaheer. He should not. Something is wrong with him. He will back soon. He is still a better bowler than Zaheer to go away that easily. Once he is back in form then he will come back hard and then will be more consistent.
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 4:33pm |
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that is the point im trying to get across, but these guys just say its no worry, hes not taking wickets rite now guys!
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 3:02am |
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His bowling has dropped off, his batting has improved but it is not consistent..He really needs to focus on his bowling, that is what India need a quality, swing pace bowler, not a half ass medium paacer like in the past. INDIA DO NOT need an extra batsmen, if he can slog or get osme runs at the bottomm that is handy, but he needs to be there as a bowler.
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 2:53am |
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so guys are u now convinced pathan isn't bowling well, i mean im not trying to say i don't like the lad but whats the difference between him and sourav ganguly(well there is a difference but lets not get in that) they have both not been performing for a while, who is to say in a few months patahn wont be kicked out
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 10:29pm |
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the thing is i don't think he is a fit as he was, the reason y he is bowling slower is because he thinks that is the speed where you get optimum swing etc, so therefore his body doesnt need to be as fit, still a good slogger though. But he still can bowl in the 80mph zone 2day against england he bowled on that read 84.6mph i think, but yer ur right he has lost alot of his fire as a bowler, patel is an interesting prospect though, sreesanth looks like a 14yr old boy.
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 9:24pm |
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i am just trying to say that i would rather have irfan pathan the amazing bowler, rather than irfan pathan half ass bowler half ass batsman tho irfan pathan the allrounder would be great
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 6:25pm |
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of course at present we don't have anyone who can replace him as others r still learning. he is a proven act but if he has started concentrating on his batting and his bowling is affected then in near future he can be in trouble. |
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 6:21pm |
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look guys irfan pathan is basically becoming the 6th batsman who can give u a couple overs witht he new ball. he only bowled 17 overs in the whole england innnings.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 4:01pm |
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rp soingh can replace him for the bowling not batting
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 2:30pm |
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pathan can't get bench, simple as that. who would replace him, sehwag no 1.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Jyothika
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 1:20pm |
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Yeh, exactly, maybe he just wasnt so sure.
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 1:03pm |
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i was just wondering why isn't he appealing for lbws. there was one plumb in this match. even in the previous one there was a chance of lbw.i think it was flintoff or kp |
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Fingers crossed for him.
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 12:41pm |
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that would be good
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 12:32pm |
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i agree we should be patient but our bench strength is getting better and the one not performing can be in serious trouble. i hope pathan finds his form and demolish the english batsmen in the next inn. |
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 10:54am |
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Give it a rest Sehwag no.1. Pathan did not take any wickets today, but it's not like everyone is going to take wickets in every match they play. He's being trying so hard and you cannot do anything better than try your best. Poor thing, stop critizising him.
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Posted: 19 March 2006 at 1:33am |
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but guys first day against england, HORRIBLE! to say the least i think his bad bowling is catching up to him, no more of the batsman bailing him out
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Posted: 18 March 2006 at 2:04am |
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maybe so, hopefully he come back and take a whole bunch of wickets for india
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 18 March 2006 at 12:59am |
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I agree that he has not been upto hi best recently. I think he is concentrating more on his batting because he enjoys it more and that the team has good bowlers like RP Singh, Sreesanth, Kumble. I think it's just for the time being. Another possibility is that he could be out of form.
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Posted: 17 March 2006 at 9:53pm |
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Irfan Pathan is effective 50-50 you never know with him but when hes in good form hes no doubt dangerous.
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Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:46pm |
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i bet no indian bowler is at present feeling as comfortable as pathan with the new ball. in the recent matches he is the only bowler who is taking wickets with the new ball. but he is facing a stiff competition from the others and he will have to increase his pace if he wants to be the pace spearhead |
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Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:36pm |
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Well it doesn't really matter if he's capable of taking wickets at that pace. Look at glen mcgrath and shaun pollock. If irfan pathan is able to make the batsman play an ordinary shot, then the credit goes to him and his bowling.
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Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:32pm |
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but guys outside the first couple of overs, unless its a poor shot by the batsman irfan pathan is not performing, his pace is non existing, his average is around 120k i mean u have to say that is slow for an opening bowler, thats almost as fast as kumble
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Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:24pm |
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Maybe he is not as effective, but like jumbo said, if he is picking up wickets regularly then it may not be such a big issue.
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