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    Posted: 12 November 2007 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by fishcake14

Originally posted by The Tyke

 
I found that switching between orthodox and chinaman has brought me a few wickets. I randomly chuck in a chinaman here and there and they play down the wrong line. Or as a psyche out I'll bowl a wrong'un just to mess with their heads.
 
You get a lot of people who can pick spin in club cricket, don't you? Wink%20%20%20
 
Like some seamers do for their slower balls I can change my grip while running in.
I also have a straighter ball which looks like a chinaman until it pitches. I bowl it with the same action and the ball gets plenty of revs but it just pitches and goes straight on.
Release the ball with your hand about half way turned between your break (Leg or Off) and a top spinner. To the batsmen the revs will appear to be sideways so they think that it will spin but, when it pitches it just carries straight on. If the batsmen have seen you bowl this before it instils doubt in their minds. If they haven't then they aren't ready for a straighter ball.
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Originally posted by spin wizard


As for you fast bowlers, kill them with pace and aggression. Don't be afraid to bounce them and set the man deep backward square and long leg/deep fine leg.


You and your "Bodyline" tactics.

But Spin Wizard's right, attack the batsman and put the pressure on. If you can dry up the runs then the batsman will be more likely to make a mistake.

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yorkers, inswinging yorkers and slower balls.
use the bouncer to distract them.
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How to get wickets? Be aggressive! If you're a spinner, flight them up and set some fielders close in like short covers and short mid wicket. Bowling with guys around the bat makes you want to bowl more flatter and quicker so that takes away from your attacking option which is to get the man driving but if you're Warne or Murali so can bowl on the spot and pitch it up on target, then fine but for people at our level, we're not that good!
 
As for you fast bowlers, kill them with pace and aggression. Don't be afraid to bounce them and set the man deep backward square and long leg/deep fine leg.
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How to get wickets ? a tough question, hmm make the batsmen get under pressure, swing the bowl, bowl good line and length.

I use Bouncer or Shorter Delivery as my weapon, bowl right at his head and if he gets hit, wow you got the job done    next bowl a slower one or a good line,length ball and you get a wicket cause he will be angry at you losing his concentration Wink . I Bowl medium or fast medium i think, didn't measured but i am sure i am not much fast :((.


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Originally posted by The Tyke

 
I found that switching between orthodox and chinaman has brought me a few wickets. I randomly chuck in a chinaman here and there and they play down the wrong line. Or as a psyche out I'll bowl a wrong'un just to mess with their heads.
 
You get a lot of people who can pick spin in club cricket, don't you? Wink

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I'm normally behind the stumps but towards the end of the season I have been in the field and have been bowling my Left Arm spin.
Depending on which I'm asked to use more of, orthodox or chinaman, I can be a containment or wicket taking bowler.
 
I found that switching between orthodox and chinaman has brought me a few wickets. I randomly chuck in a chinaman here and there and they play down the wrong line. Or as a psyche out I'll bowl a wrong'un just to mess with their heads.
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Well I'm a leg spinner (hence my name) and I always find that if I keep teasing the batsmen with ordinary leggies then start adding toppies and sliders/flipper nearer to the end, there's about 6/10 chance they will come steaming down the wicket, take a uncontrolled drive and then miss making either a outside edge or a stumping from the keeper. CAUTION:ExclamationDo not try this with the more defensive of batsmen as this will mean more runs for batsmen, less wickets for youConfused
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lower grades you can get wickets off absolute pus deliveries.
 
Higher grades you have to starve the batsmen of runs and you have to do something with the ball like swing it or cut it.
 
Also pace means nothing really, It makes it a bit harder for the batsman but really a quality batsman does not care about pace one bit.
 
Also the place to aim is the top of off stump, thats where McGrath aimed all his career and he is the best ever
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Watch the batsman.  That is going to be your key,  to take the wickets.  Especially the good batsmen - watch their grip, their stance, do they like to play forward, or back.  And the best time to observe all this, is when you are not bowling.  At least, that's how it works for me.

You cannot have a set pattern of variations as has been mentioned here, to take wickets consistently.  It'll work against, bits and pieces batsmen, no doubt.  But against quality batsmen, you need to set them up.

And for that, you need to use your variation, very sparingly.  Get your stock ball to be one on or around off stump.  And for an over at least, against the good batsman, use this same line, and maybe, if you want, use the crease, to change your angle.  When the batsman has gotten comfortable against you, then, and only then, use your prized variation.  You'll nail most good batsmen that way, and also more importantly, earn their respect as well.

Variations are very effective when they are a surprise.  If you bowl 3 variations in an over, then it's stops being a surprise.  You wont be able to get the good batsmen this way.
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my cutters get lots of wickets........ when i use them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote inswinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 August 2007 at 3:13pm
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i bowl it like i would bowl a leg spiner (i move leg spin quite abit) but with a normal runup. i only lose a bit of pace luckilly!

good for u...lol...ive never rele got a great wicket from leg cutters jsut edges rele..

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ooohhhhh i love bowlin my leg cutter, use my fingers a lot, takes abouthalf mty pace out, pitches outside leg stump and they normally get bowled from takin a swing, my favourite ever was whn i pitched it literaly a yard outside leg stump, the batsman played a bacfoot defensive, and it took out his off stump Wink
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slower balls and inswinging yorker (either constantly or as a vary ball) i usually bowl normal inswing then throw in a yorker and gets the wicket...slower balls or leg cutters also are very good wicket takers
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I bowl slow, bouncing and flighted deliveries!
The bounce is around shoulder height outside or just on off stump.It is very difficult to score of them because I bowl them really slow.I even add some spin to it!It makes it even more difficult!The batsman will get frustrated and will loop one up in the air!Thats how I get my wickets!I also have another style, bowl fast and try to swing the ball!

The main problem in my bowling is wides and over height bouncers being called no balls!I only give away 3-4 runs usually without extras.
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constant yorkers do it for me and slower balls :D 
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Originally posted by lightning quick

i bowl around 120 so when i play u/15's im just about the fastest bowler most of these kids have faced so consistant line and length works there but in seniors i bowl with variations like slower balls swing and cut

 
120kmh, look i know you're a cocky cricket player but you're pushing it. I know i find you fast and am really bad at facing you but let's not go over board
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i bowl around 120 so when i play u/15's im just about the fastest bowler most of these kids have faced so consistant line and length works there but in seniors i bowl with variations like slower balls swing and cut

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 added to the above, i bowl legspin and just put it on the same area just on middle and leg, then, i bowl one just outside of offstump. next ball, i bowl a googly on that last leg spins spot which they try to drive and it usually bowls them.Smile
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I always bowl Flipper's every 6th ball,8 out of 10 times it works and gets me a wicket
 
could you please PM me on how you bowl this flipper as i am learning but i am not positive on how to do it.
 
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I have reasonable pace around the low 120's which is medium for my standard. My bowling changes for every batsman. Some it is wise to attack the stumps and put pressure on that way. Others are suspect against chin music while others it works to starve them of runs. As Pieterson fan said, a pattern will be worked out by the dumbest of batsman.
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I usually mix up my off-breaks in an over with some straight balls and leg breaks but I always change my pattern every over so they don't know what's coming next, I know some people who just stick to the smae pattern every over so the batsman knows what's going to happen.
 
An example of an over to a right-hander is to bowl off-breaks in the first 3 balls, then in the fourth ball I pitch it in the same area as the other three but don't put any spin on it so it goes straight on and doesn't turn, then I bowl an off-break on the fifth ball and from the final ball I may bowl a leg break so it completely foxes the batsmen and gets them out sometimes.
 
If I'm really struggling to get a wicket I sometimes throw in a really quick straight ball with my normal run-up so the batsmen isn't expecting it and it could dismiss him.
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I have an action similar to Murali's and if the big offbreaks dont get a result, I just throw in the doosra and that always catches them out.
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i bowl offspin and them every bout 4th ball a bowl legspin and it works!
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I can only rely on my accuracy to do the job rather than pace.  So, I focus on keeping the batsman quiet bowling wicket to wicket and setting the appropriate field.  I dont beat the bat as often as I would like but I try not to give them much room to get runs off me.  Eventually, they will make a mistake.
 
Once I am settled in line and length, I bowl an off-cutter now and again.


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As a batsman I love bowlers that have a plan on what they bowl. They bowl this or that every so many balls and most batsman love it.
 
Those that mix it up are better because they keep batsman on their toes. This also has a down side as the batsman becomes much more aware of everything around them.
 
The hardest to bat against, for me at least, are those bowlers that bowl the consistent line and length. The batsman knows what's coming but with variations in pace and a change in the field it's very effective.
 
My one weakness, and I know this rings true for other batsman, is when a spinner is bowling to them, Have men crowding the bat. It puts huge pressure on the batsman and they are more likely to make a mistake. Silly point, Bat Pad are good for adding pressure but also save runs. You make a batsman reluctant to step out to the flight just in case it beats them. In essence you make them face the full force of the spin.
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Simply just bowl and good line and length, stave a batsman of runs.
99% of the time a batsman will get themself out playing a poor or average shot. It's very rare that a bowler will produce a ball that will get a batsman out, and what most batsmen lack is patience.
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Most mportantly, do not try and bowl that wicket taking ball every ball but be patient. Keep and good line and length and watch the pro's...........
 
McGrath and Pollock are who you want to mirror. Peole like Lee and Akhtar are freaks who do imposible feats. Most of us need to be realistic.
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At the level I play at, you just try and bowl a good line and length. There's usually enough in the wicket itself to keep the batsman guessing. If you don't try too hard to get something to happen by trying to bowl too many different types of delivery (and thus inevitably give away a four ball at least once an over) you'll get results.
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