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saadadvanced7
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Topic: Shane Warne Posted: 07 December 2005 at 12:41am |
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That was only one point against Murali that you have partially proved wrong. What about all the other arguments against Murali. I will not mention them again because us Shane Warne supporters have mentioned again and again. Read the thread.
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Posted: 06 December 2005 at 9:27pm |
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murli does chuk BUTonli when hes bowling doosara and teesara not off spin is clear
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Posted: 06 December 2005 at 10:35am |
Yea, I completely agree with you.
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Posted: 06 December 2005 at 1:17am |
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well put saad, credit must go to murali but for reasons which we have gone over countless times before it is clear that these two bowlers cannot be judged on their numbers alone...you need to consider the things that go into making up the numbers
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Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:21pm |
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You people are just like me...when I first joined this forum, I also thought that Murali was way better than Warne because of his better stats, but then when I found out why he has better stats than Shane, then I realized that Shane is a living legend and Murali is not in Shane's class.
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Posted: 05 December 2005 at 2:55pm |
murli more good player than warne
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Posted: 03 December 2005 at 11:29pm |
You must be kidding!
Shane Warne and rubbish don't go together. Shane Warne is the best slow bowler ever. He is the Bradman of bowling. He is an out-standing player. He was one of Wisden's 5 cricketers of the 20th century, and he was the only currently playing player that got player of the century. All the rest were retired players. Shane is extraordinary.
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Posted: 24 November 2005 at 12:02pm |
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yea, I agree. Without Warne Australia would have been demolished in the ashes and they wouldn't be the number 1 team in the world right now.
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Posted: 24 November 2005 at 6:22am |
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Without Warnie , they'd have been buried !!
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Posted: 24 November 2005 at 5:59am |
warne is cetrainly a great bowler and in my opinion better than murali, for reasons i've mentioned in previous threads. warne posesses one of the most genius cricketing brains, despite the fact that outside of cricket he doesn't seem the sharpest tool in the shed, his knowledge of the game is amazing. it's no wonder ponting turned to warne so often when struggling for solutions during the ashes
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Posted: 24 November 2005 at 4:49am |
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Yes. I wish the same. He will certainly do that if he continues to perform the sam till the end of his career. He is very hardworking and most reliable bowler of the Aussies. He bowls for long spells. He is "the best" bowler.
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Posted: 12 November 2005 at 12:15am |
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well, i don't know any unknown facts about him but he has accomplished something that no one has!! and everyone knows about it. he is the first bowler to take 600 test wickets and i believe that he is such a great bowler and he's taking wickets so fast that he will get 700 test wickets by the end of his career.
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Posted: 11 November 2005 at 3:16pm |
does anyone know any interesting facts about shane warne??
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Posted: 08 November 2005 at 9:23pm |
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well, McGrath is second right and he was first for quite a while now, but shane finally took over...after 10 years.
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Posted: 08 November 2005 at 6:05am |
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What about that then !! Shane Warne rated the world's best again , 10 years since he was last there - that must've given him a buzz !!
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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 9:35pm |
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oh are you talking about the match when england almost collapsed chasing 127 to win? i certainly have to agree with you, shane almost pulled that one off for australia.
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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 6:39am |
Originally posted by saadadvanced7
if you look at McGrath and Shane, i believe McGrath is better, he's the guy who destroy's the top order and leaves the tail for shane. which means that he can get the better batsman out and shane is only left the tail to deal with. |
McGrath gets first "pop" at the batsmen Saad , so he's bound to get more of the top order. But when the openers make a useful start , the Aussies usually turn to Warne for the breakthrough. Just cast your mind back to the Ashes , when Trescothick and Strauss started well , Ponting brought on Warne - sometimes within the 1st hour of play!!
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Posted: 06 November 2005 at 5:47pm |
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murali and shane are not even close to the same except the fact that they are very evenly matched.
murali has problems inside the cricket world with his bowling action, while shane has problems outside the cricket world like all the scandals and family problems.
if you look at McGrath and Shane, i believe McGrath is better, he's the guy who destroy's the top order and leaves the tail for shane. which means that he can get the better batsman out and shane is only left the tail to deal with.
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Posted: 06 November 2005 at 10:39am |
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murali and shane warne are the same
mcgrath and shane are the same
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Posted: 05 November 2005 at 1:22pm |
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that is 100% true and muralia only has less wickets because he has played less tests.
but the thing is that murali's career has been filled with so much controversy over his bowling action. probably no one in the history of international cricket has had as much controversy in their cricket career as much as murali.
shane warne has been involved in a lot of scandals and things but the ICC didn't actually have a problem with the way he played the game. his bowling action is fine and everything, its just his outside life which has affected his cricket life.
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Posted: 05 November 2005 at 9:57am |
Statistically, Muttiah Muralitheran is a better bowler than Shane Warne.
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Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:30pm |
My opinion is that warne is the best spin bowler out there at the moment. Its hard to say best ever because its very hard to compare one generation too the next.
On the subject of who is better murali and warne on the subject of statistics you Wanre would have to come out on top. Warne has bowled along people side people like glen mcgrath, jason gillespie and more recently bret lee who have all taken there fare share of wickets while murali is the only real bowler in his side and is given the bowl for entire days. Warne has played in numerous tests where he hasnt got a chance or has been left with only a couple of wickets because the quicks have demolished the side.
Don't forget about Stuart McGill. If he had half the games warne had played he would have just as many wickets as warne.
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Posted: 04 November 2005 at 12:10am |
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shane is the best bowler in the world...along with mcgrath.
i certainly respect shane but i respect mcgrath just as much, just because mcgrath doesn't have as many wickets as shane doesn't mean mcgrath isn't good. mcgrath currently i would say is just as good as shane.
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Posted: 01 November 2005 at 8:54am |
A champ leg spiner is named as shane warne he had picked 628 wickets he is truly the best bowler in the world
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Posted: 31 October 2005 at 11:44am |
actually shane and McGrath can compete for "the best bowler in the world" because they are both such high quality players.
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Posted: 30 October 2005 at 6:36pm |
shane warne is what makes the aussies so great, of course he is the best bowler in the world, he has the world record!  from loz
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lauren ahluwalia loz_bubblegum!
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Posted: 16 October 2005 at 8:59pm |
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i think shane is at his best right now and he will not have much trouble dealing with the SA batters, i mean you're talking about shane warne hear, one of wisdens 5 cricketers of the 20th century. shane can be compared to any SA batter and he stand way above them, except Kallis, kallis is in a class of his own, i think he can match shane warne's bowling with his batting.
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Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:52am |
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For that reason, as a SAFA, I am sincerely hoping that Shane is injured/performing below his best in the SA-Australia series this summer. |
Get off yer knees Bokkie!!
But seriously , South Africa's young guns NEED to play Warnie. He hasn't much cricket left , maybe 2/3 years , so any player worth his salt will want to test himself against the best.
I'm looking forward to Gibbs , Kallis , Smith and young AB taking the topman on - it'll be rivetting!!
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Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:34am |
I thought this topic was about Shane.
Shane is the greatest bowler of the age. Possibly THE Sir Donald Bradman of bowling. He was named the Wisden's 2nd greatest cricketer of the 20th Century - an INCREDIBLE honour, and continues to amaze. Singlehandedly, with his 40 wickets and 250 runs, Shane kept Australia in the Ashes. It would have been 3-1 or 4-1 England if Shane had not been there.
For that reason, as a SAFA, I am sincerely hoping that Shane is injured/performing below his best in the SA-Australia series this summer.
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