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Im sorry it was the bats I was looking at

Hi everyone, im looking for a bat that would suit me, i am normally placed maybe 5 or 6th in the batting order and have always been a big hitter. I need a bat that would suit me, must be light but have a big sweet spot and pick up. also nothing too expensive, no more than £200. can anyone give me any ideas as to what would be a perfect choice for me? Cheers

I have got a SG ELITE ENGLISH WILLOW CRICKET BAT...AND I GOT SOME  WILLOW LINES and marks over the face of my bat...Just clarify id the bat is defective...Shall i replace it...Or is it alright ...I want to post he pics but don't know how to do it...In the insert iamge page i can't upload my pics from my pc...help me...

Originally posted by Clobber I've heard the name, think they are based in Taunton, but have no experience of their gear.

Me neither , but the local brew left many a headache!

Never heard of the brand mate.  Many people are starting their own brand today, this is another classic case of it.  It does not mean that it won't be a good brand.

David, your friend is wrong, bats don't sell cheap in Australia yet many are sold.  Australians mainly go for quality.  I know a guy who has his own brand in Australia, and his cheapest bat is US$300, and already for the Australia season, he's sold more than 60 bats.

btw my mate is now saying that kookaburra bays are probably made in india coz of the cheap labour and since the labour is expensive in australia no one buys it in australia...LOL..people nowadays are so ignorant.

David, SG makes Kookabura gears.  SG is in India, therefore Kookabura gears are made in India.  This is a fact.  There are other brands that are made in India by one manufacturing unit.  GM have their range of gears that are made in India as well.  SS, SG, SF, SM, BDM, MRF, Kookabura, RNS Larson, Reebok, Nike, Puma, Slazenger, GM, Addidas Master Blaster are all made in India.  GM also has a range made in England too, so not all GM are made in India.  Not sure if the same applies for Slazenger, but there are some Slazenger that are made in India as well.

The brand that VVS Laxman uses, that company does make gears for couple of the brands I mentioned above, but I can't remember which exact ones they are. 


Edited by spin wizard - 02 December 2011 at 1:06am

i see...so is it true that kookaburra bats are made in india as 'spin wizard' was saying..and clobs you said that it was confirmed that kookaburra did indeed make ponting's bats so that means his bat was not made in india?

There is no simple answer to that one I am afraid. Players have frequently used different bats to the stickers they are sporting - most common among subcontinent players, but there have been photos of Australians using bats with "SS" or "Ton" on the edges to support your argument to some extent.

In my opinion though, those instances would simple be a case of them being on tour there and looking for a profile suited to the local conditions - much like various Indian players were said to be using stickered up Newbury bats on their last tour of England.

In Ponting's specific case, I vaguely recall a debate about it on the forum from years ago when someone contacted Kookaburra, and received a response from a product manager stating that they did indeed make Ponting's bats themselves.

hey guys i have been arguing with some mates about the bats the australia team uses. I've been telling them that they use mostly indian manufactured bats, but they think that ponting and all actually use bats from kookaburra etc. just cause the stickers are on the bat. Am i right or wrong..and if i am right do you have any links where they state that ponting etc use indian made bats otherwise they wont believe me.

Generally yes.  As a bat gets older, it will give a better ping.  And you will not hear a great sound from areas that appears to have plenty meat higher up on a bat.  Generally, the sound there on all bats is different, compare to if it hits lower down on the bat.

And size of sweet spot is defined by the grade of willow used.  Lower grade willow bats will not have an enormous sweet spot, despite what the respective owners say to hype up their bats.  The meat behind can help for a more powerful lower sweet spot though, and greater force behind the ball to give it a more forceful shot.  A bat 1 inches thick can hit a ball as hard as a bat 2 inches thick.  A grade 4 willow bat cannot hit as sweetly as a grade 1 bat.  Grade 1 bats will just require a push nowadays and the balls will be racing away.

lastly, it sounds to me that your bat is ok.  Try not to worry about your bat sounding sweet.  Just try and find the sweet spot and you will be all fine.  As I also mentioned before, bats like these tend to favour power hitters more.

What Price did you pay for it?  I think if you got it for less than $7,000 rupees, its probably a fake.

Actually, my bad, they're both the same, but with different names. 

Is your problem the ping not sounding really sweet or just that the ball is not travelling?  For instance, I have Ihsan Inferno 450.  It's ping is not as sweet sounding as even a lower quality CA bat, but its hitting ability is brilliant due to its excellent rebound.  Bats like these sweet spot tends to be higher and a bit smaller but when you do find that sweet spot, its trouble for the bowlers.  Compare this to a boom boom signature bat that has a much bigger sweet spot that starts low down on the bat.  Maybe the bat isn't suited to lower decks (if the sweet spot is higher).  When I am driving on low decks, I usually have to put a bit more extra power into my shots, due to my bat sweet spot being higher up.  I see you are from India, so maybe that's the issue. 

Take a mallet and hit it in the centre of the bat.  Wherever you hear the softest sound, that's where you sweet spot is.  If you were hitting balls outside of that area, then you have found your reason for you being disappointed in it.  If the bat absolutely doesn't have a soft spot anywhere, then something is wrong with it.

Or, you've landed yourself a fake.  I have never used GM 707 bat, but from my knowledge from the supplies business, all GM 707 bats are very good quality cricket bats, if they are original or no bat defects.

How much did you pay for it?


Edited by spin wizard - 20 November 2011 at 4:04pm

Originally posted by spin wizard Which of the GM 707 is it, Luna 707 or Icon 707?